The Ratings Thread (Part 68)

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Dancc

04-12-2016

Originally Posted by all_night:
“Channel 5 doing nice with the afternoon - early evening films.”

Indeed. The made-for-TV flicks always deliver for them at this time of year and bring in well above average audience shares. Mrs Miracle tops 1m every year regardless of scheduling.

Is Green Lantern tonight really a premiere as they are claiming on the trailer? Bit late for a 2011 film to be making its debut and I could have sworn it's been on before.

Fudd

04-12-2016

Originally Posted by Cestrian18:
“I think that it's just it's level now really though, I'll be interested to see if the final Sunday gets a boost to see if the public are willing to come back even if only for the final episode-Last year did and it rebounded to a respectable c8m iirc. It'll be hampered by having Strictly's Semi Final Results show running through most of the first half though.”

The Strictly semi final results finish at 8pm; The X Factor final on Sunday is against Planet Earth II and My Mother and Other Strangers.

davey_wavey

04-12-2016

Yes indeed, strong ratings for the afternoon films on Channel 5. They are offering a good alternative to what the other channels are doing at that time - there is a market to be tapped into, those people who enjoy getting into the Christmas spirit early!

As for Christmas telly, I am really looking forward to Birds of a Feather, Jonathan Creek, Call the Midwife, Christmas Bake Off and Maigret.

Roscoe Barnes

04-12-2016

Thanks for that big ratings list lewie.

Strictly absolutely smashing it as usual. It's current overnight series average is 9.7m. Last year the entire series averaged 9.6m. Assuming it can continue and gain momentum for the final in two weeks time, it might end up around 9.8/9.9m. The final rating needs to be a big one!

The X Factor really can't do anymore now can it. It's completely bottomed out and the final results next Sunday will be lucky to hit 7.5m at this rate as the first hour is against Planet Earth II.

IAC continues with it's normal Saturday night numbers. That's the same rating as last night. It then went on to add 2.0m to that for last years final which averaged 9.7m. No reason it can't do that again tonight. I'm hoping for 10.0m.

Does anyone know the IAC rating for Friday yet?

Ray Tings

04-12-2016

Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Is Green Lantern tonight really a premiere as they are claiming on the trailer? Bit late for a 2011 film to be making its debut and I could have sworn it's been on before.”

Yes, it's a premiere. Are you thinking of The Green Hornet?

lewiep93

04-12-2016

Originally Posted by Roscoe Barnes:
“Thanks for that big ratings list lewie.

Strictly absolutely smashing it as usual. It's current overnight series average is 9.7m. Last year the entire series averaged 9.6m. Assuming it can continue and gain momentum for the final in two weeks time, it might end up around 9.8/9.9m. The final rating needs to be a big one!

The X Factor really can't do anymore now can it. It's completely bottomed out and the final results next Sunday will be lucky to hit 7.5m at this rate as the first hour is against Planet Earth II.

IAC continues with it's normal Saturday night numbers. That's the same rating as last night. It then went on to add 2.0m to that for last years final which averaged 9.7m. No reason it can't do that again tonight. I'm hoping for 10.0m.

Does anyone know the IAC rating for Friday yet? ”

Not a problem Roscoe

8.01m (36.7%) inc. HD & +1 for IAC.

Yeah XF isn't gonna go anywhere else really. It's consistent, that I will say. And I doubt it'll get over an 8m average for the final. Yet again for all of the changes it hasn't gone up.

Score

04-12-2016

Originally Posted by square_eyes:
“Meet the Parents is woeful.

Holly & Phil need a new show. Is it time to dust off Dancing on Ice - it's had a bit of a break now ”

Kevin Lygo did say that he wishes it hadn't been axed. It probably will make a comeback at some point. Depends on where they schedule The Voice I guess as that fills the Q1 shiny floor hole.

Phil only has Mr & Mrs in primetime now doesn't he? Holly doesn't have much going on either. It was a bit odd that they dumped Surprise Surprise. The numbers were decent enough. They definitely need a rethink around how they schedule the weekends next Autumn.

H of De Vil

04-12-2016

These are the ratings from last year.

Saturday 5th December 2015 - Overnights
BBC One
06:00 - Breakfast: 1.37m (33.4%)
10:00 - Saturday Kitchen: 1.76m (25.1%)
11:30 - Simply Nigella: 1.25m (17.2%)
12:00 - BBC News: 1.52m (19.7%)
12:10 - Football Focus: 1.36m (16.5%)
13:00 - Snooker: UK Championship 2015: 1.13m (10.6%)
16:30 - Final Score: 2.09m (14.0%)
17:20 - Celebrity Mastermind: 2.66m (15.7%)
17:50 - BBC News: 4.48m (24.2%)
18:00 - BBC Regional News: 5.27m (27.6%)
18:10 - Pointless Celebrities: 5.48m (27.9%)
19:00 - Strictly Come Dancing: 10.41m (45.1%)
20:00 - Doctor Who: 4.47m (20.0%)
21:05 - Casualty: 3.81m (17.2%)
21:55 - The National Lottery Live: 3.22m (15.5%)
22:25 - Match of the Day: 3.21m (22.6%)

ITV (inc +1)
17:45 - Catchphrase: 2.80m (14.7%)
18:45 - ITV News & Weather: 2.81m (13.9%)
19:00 - The Chase: Celebrity Special: 3.26m (14.2%)
20:00 - The X Factor: 6.76m (30.4%)
21:30 - I'm a Celebrity... Get Me Out of Here!: 7.72m (36.6%)
22:35 - The Jonathan Ross Show: 2.22m (15.8%)

Pointless down YOY mainly I suspect because BBC1 are showing rpts, but also because its starting to loose its edge. Its on too often.

SCD ratings are the same, but the shre is up. ITV at 7pm has dropped 5% shares and SCD has gained them. So that's where that's gone.

And TXF is doing better with a more supportive lead in. 1.5m more than last night. The lead in does help. It would have still dropped this year, but not to the extent of 1m. I suspect has The Chase been on last night like last year TXF would have been over 6m.

Tipping Point is doing better than Catchphrase, but I think both should be recommissioned for early evening slots for next year.

Next year here's what I would do to create a supportive schedule against the BBC onslaught.

Saturday

5.30pm Tipping Point Lucky Stars
6.30pm The Chase
7.30pm The X Factor
9pm I'm A Celeb

Sunday

5.30pm ITV News
6pm Catchphrase
7pm Ninja Warrior UK
8pm The X Factor
9pm I'm A Celeb

Score

04-12-2016

Originally Posted by lewiep93:
“Not a problem Roscoe 8.01m (36.7%) inc. HD & +1 for IAC.

Yeah XF isn't gonna go anywhere really. It's consistent, that I will say.”

X Factor has been very consistent since it went live. It seems a chunk of the audience just decided after the pre-recorded stages that they weren't going to watch the live shows and that was it.

I'm not expecting a huge surge for the final as there won't be as many casual viewers around with Planet Earth on. I'm thinking around 7m. I'm just as interested to see how the Saturday show does as last year the Saturday final took a weird and large dip. It can't afford for that to happen this year. One thing this year's final does have to its advantage over last year is that it's a much more open contest, which might help a bit.

I think IAC might just miss 10m tonight, but nonetheless it has had another great run, ITV will be very pleased.

Score

04-12-2016

Looking at that list from last year, I'm quite surprised to see Pointless Celebrities down a million on last year. The teatime version is down too so the franchise has taken a bit of a dip. Still very strong for the slot of course. I wonder if Tipping Point is keeping it in check a bit on a Saturday?

lewiep93

04-12-2016

Originally Posted by Score:
“X Factor has been very consistent since it went live. It seems a chunk of the audience just decided after the pre-recorded stages that they weren't going to watch the live shows and that was it.

I'm not expecting a huge surge for the final as there won't be as many casual viewers around with Planet Earth on. I'm thinking around 7m. I'm just as interested to see how the Saturday show does as last year the Saturday final took a weird and large dip. It can't afford for that to happen this year. One thing this year's final does have to its advantage over last year is that it's a much more open contest, which might help a bit.

I think IAC might just miss 10m tonight, but nonetheless it has had another great run, ITV will be very pleased.”

Planet Earth will definitely dent it. And yes I'd be really surprised if IAC broke 10m. Although, if it follows the pattern of 2014 which it seems to have done this year, it could get over 10m. The Saturday show (6 December) had 8.00m (37.0%) and the final (7 December) had 10.52m (41.9%). So the same could happen this year but I would be very surprised.

Shame it's lost its steam a little, best series in years.

sunbeam007

04-12-2016

Originally Posted by James J:
“I doubt ITV will do Saturday night peak time drama - has Lygo alluded to such?

Aside from The Nightly Show, the sixth Corrie (which I'm gonna bet goes out on Thursday at 8.30pm) and mid-week entertainment (Weds @ 8) I don't think we know of any wholesale schedule changes. In fact I bet there aren't any, which is a shame.”

No he hasn't and I would not like to see drama at 9 on a Saturday (on either channel TBH). But 9:30 is fine which really makes little sense on my part.

The problem is the channels can't find LE hits to fill the hours. They can barely fill two hours. The beeb seem to be giving up which is even more telling considering the amount of drama they've already been showing on Saturdays.

The one question for BBC is what effect does a Sunday drama on a Saturday have on their Sunday schedules? Does it weaken it? Do people not want two dramas in two days? Is this a problem for itv and their Sunday and Monday dramas? Or maybe people don't care and will watch it all.

Roscoe Barnes

04-12-2016

Originally Posted by lewiep93:
“Not a problem Roscoe 8.01m (36.7%) inc. HD & +1 for IAC.
”

Thanks for this lewie.

So about 0.3m up y-o-y for that episode.

Glenn A

04-12-2016

How is Neighbours doing these days as it seems to be crushed between The Chase and Pointless, which are getting a combined audience of 7 million. Actually 20 years ago, while well down on its peak in 1989, Neighbours was getting 7 million for its 2 showings.

sunbeam007

04-12-2016

Originally Posted by Andy23:
“Nobody knows for a fact that I'm a Celeb would rate higher on a Saturday earlier. In fact saying as much goes against most of the other "facts" that are often quoted in this thread, namely that of lead in. Remember the TXF lead in is higher than what many shows have had during the rest of the week.

Unless people's remotes stop working at 8:15, I guess the reason it is lower on a Saturday, is because it's a Saturday.

It seems to be its just an excuse to go on about TXF again, but from a different angle.”

XF had 6.5m leading up to SCD. The idea that is a bad lead-in is very silly. IAC got 40% share compares to 32% shares in the week. It's a Saturday, people do other things. It's why itv should target an OAP audience at 9pm, more SCD than XF.

Have a show where different musicals do numbers, rather like last night's SCD end dance last night. Something warm and light.

david_leeward

04-12-2016

Originally Posted by Aaron_2015:
“Except it really doesn't matter, because anybody wanting to watch IAC can use the new fangled invention of 'catch up'.

I honestly can't wait until X Factor finishes, mainly so that we can get the ratings thread back from the X Factor bashers.”

Me too, im sick of hearing about it.

sunbeam007

04-12-2016

Originally Posted by Score:
“Kevin Lygo did say that he wishes it hadn't been axed. It probably will make a comeback at some point. Depends on where they schedule The Voice I guess as that fills the Q1 shiny floor hole.

Phil only has Mr & Mrs in primetime now doesn't he? Holly doesn't have much going on either. It was a bit odd that they dumped Surprise Surprise. The numbers were decent enough. They definitely need a rethink around how they schedule the weekends next Autumn.”

So they have axed the Cube and Surprise Surprise? Blimey.

Ray Tings

04-12-2016

Originally Posted by lewiep93:
“Wrong person cylon, get it right

And, as promised, The Two Ronnies ratings! Took a lot longer than expected.”

Lewie, I have added a few bits (in bold) to your list:

Spoiler

stv viewer

04-12-2016

I think after the success of Michael McIntyre its time they commission. Danny Dyers big night out for BBC 1. A different pub every week with guests and live music and pub games like darts, snooker and pool.

Rob1985

04-12-2016

Originally Posted by Glenn A:
“How is Neighbours doing these days as it seems to be crushed between The Chase and Pointless, which are getting a combined audience of 7 million. Actually 20 years ago, while well down on its peak in 1989, Neighbours was getting 7 million for its 2 showings.”

Just under two million for its two showings.

lewiep93

04-12-2016

Originally Posted by Ray Tings:
“Lewie, I have added a few bits (in bold) to your list:

Spoiler

The Two Ronnies Ratings (1971-1976 ratings have been multiplied by 2.2 as per the BFI to get viewers in millions)

Series 1
10 April 1971 - 12.10m (5.50m homes)
17 April 1971 - 12.43m (5.65m homes)
24 April 1971 - 13.42m (6.10m homes)
01 May 1971 - 13.31m (6.05m homes)
08 May 1971 - 12.54m (5.70m homes)
15 May 1971 - 14.19m (6.45m homes)
22 May 1971 - 13.97m (6.35m homes)
29 May 1971 - 13.09m (5.95m homes)

Series 2
16 September 1972 - 11.88m (5.40m homes)
23 September 1972 - 13.42m (6.10m homes)
30 September 1972 - 12.43m (5.65m homes)
07 October 1972 - 13.53m (6.15m homes)
14 October 1972 - 13.53m (6.15m homes)
21 October 1972 - outside the top 20 (below 6.05m homes)
28 October 1972 - outside the top 20 (below 6.20m homes)
04 November 1972 - outside the top 20 (below 6.20m homes)

--- Series 3 aired on BBC 2 in 1973-4, no ratings available ---

Series 4 (BBC 1 repeat showing, originally aired between January and February 1975 on BBC 2)
04 September 1975 - 13.09m (5.95m homes)
11 September 1975 - 15.29m (6.95m homes)
18 September 1975 - 16.50m (7.50m homes) - no.1 TV show for w/e 21 September
25 September 1975 - 16.72m (7.60m homes)
02 October 1975 - 18.37m (8.35m homes) - no.1 TV show for w/e 5 October
09 October 1975 - 17.93m (8.15m homes)
16 October 1975 - 17.93m (8.15m homes)
23 October 1975 - 18.15m (8.25m homes) - no.1 TV show for w/e 26 October

Series 5
04 September 1976 - 15.29m (6.95m homes)
11 September 1976 - 15.84m (7.20m homes)
18 September 1976 - 16.17m (7.35m homes)
25 September 1976 - 16.83m (7.65m homes)
02 October 1976 - 17.05m (7.75m homes)
09 October 1976 - 17.60m (8.00m homes)
16 October 1976 - 18.26m (8.30m homes)
23 October 1976 - 18.48m (8.40m homes)

Series 6
12 November 1977 - 17.05m
26 November 1977 - 17.75m
03 December 1977 - 17.25m
10 December 1977 - 17.80m
17 December 1977 - n/a 15.60m
26 December 1977 - 14.50m
02 January 1978 - n/a
07 January 1978 - n/a 17.60m (according to Television's Greatest Hits)

Series 7
26 December 1978 - 14.80m
01 January 1979 - 15.85m
06 January 1979 - 18.40m (no.1 TV show for w/e 7 January)
13 January 1979 - 17.45m
20 January 1979 - 16.35m
27 January 1979 - 17.15m
03 February 1979 - 15.80m
10 February 1979 - 17.65m

Series 8
01 November 1980 - 15.80m
08 November 1980 - 17.30m
15 November 1980 - 17.55m
22 November 1980 - 17.30m
29 November 1980 - 18.60m
06 December 1980 - 18.35m
13 December 1980 - 16.85m
26 December 1980 - 17.90m

Series 9
05 December 1981 - 16.95m
12 December 1981 - n/a
19 December 1981 - n/a
25 December 1981 - 15.05m
02 January 1982 - 13.68m
09 January 1982 - 16.40m
16 January 1982 - 15.35m
23 January 1982 - 15.25m

Series 10
10 December 1983 - n/a 13.87m
17 December 1983 - n/a 13.24m
25 December 1983 - 12.34m
01 January 1984 - 11.65m 11.64m
07 January 1984 - 13.50m (no.1 BBC 1 show for w/e 8 January) 13.48m
14 January 1984 - 13.55m

Series 11
13 February 1985 - 16.10m 16.11m
20 February 1985 - 17.90m (no.1 BBC 1 show for w/e 24 February) - week EastEnders launched! 17.89m
06 March 1985 - 16.10m 16.08m
13 March 1985 - 13.90m 13.89m
20 March 1985 - 16.40m (no.1 BBC 1 show for w/e 24 March) 16.38m

Series 12
25 December 1985 - 18.50m 18.48m
04 January 1986 - 13.20m 13.22m
11 January 1986 - 12.75m 12.77m
18 January 1986 - 13.50m
25 January 1986 - 13.45m 13.46m
01 February 1986 - 13.95m 13.97m

Christmas Specials
25 December 1982 - 11.10m 11.09m
25 December 1984 - 12.30m 12.22m
25 December 1987 - 11.80m

BBC 1 repeats/other shows
13 July 1974 (r.) - 11.99m (5.45m homes)
07 April 1976 (r.) - 15.07m (6.85m homes)
The Picnic (31 May 1976) - 11.88m (5.40m homes) - BBC 1 showing, originally aired on BBC 2
The Best of the Two Ronnies (29 August 1977) - 13.10m
The Best of the Two Ronnies (23 September 1978) - 13.95m
27 February 1980 (r.) - 14.65m
The Picnic (02 August 1980) - 11.70m
By The Sea (12 April 1982) - 14.95m (no.1 BBC 1 show for w/e 18 April)
By The Sea (10 April 1984, repeat) - 10.85m 10.86m
7 May 1984 (repeat) - 11.05m
11 June 1987 (r.) - 9.75m
23 December 1988 - Christmas with the Two Ronnies (repeat): 11.00m

Twenty Years of the Two Ronnies:
12 October 1986 - 15.05m 15.06m
19 October 1986 - 15.00m
26 October 1986 - 15.35m 15.37m
02 November 1986 - 15.30m 15.32m
09 November 1986 - 15.10m 15.11m
16 November 1986 - 14.70m
23 November 1986 - 14.95m 14.93m
30 November 1986 - 12.55m

Twenty-One Years of the Two Ronnies:
18 September 1987 - outside BBC 1 top ten (below 9.45m) 9.40m
25 September 1987 - 9.95m
02 October 1987 - outside BBC 1 top ten (below 10.20m) 9.30m
09 October 1987 - outside BBC 1 top ten (below 9.65m) 9.30m
16 October 1987 - 11.60m
23 October 1987 - 13.00m
30 October 1987 - 13.85m
06 November 1987 - 13.65m

Twenty Years of the Two Ronnies (repeats):
13 November 1987 - 14.05m
20 November 1987 - 14.30m
04 December 1987 - n/a 14.70m
11 December 1987 - 14.25m
18 December 1987 - n/a 13.50m
1 January 1988 - 12.30m
8 January 1988 - 11.00m
15 January 1988 - 10.10m

Twenty-Two Years of the Two Ronnies:
2 September 1988 - 8.50m
9 September 1988 - 9.10m
16 September 1988 - 10.50m
23 September 1988 - 8.70m
7 October 1988 - 8.50m
14 October 1988 - 8.80m
21 October 1988 - 8.70m
28 October 1988 - 9.40m

Twenty-One Years of the Two Ronnies (repeats):
4 November 1988 - 9.80m
11 November 1988 - 9.70m
25 November 1988 - 10.90m
2 December 1988 - 9.70m
9 December 1988 - 9.70m
16 December 1988 - 10.00m
30 December 1988 - 8.10m
6 January 1989 - 9.20m

Twenty-Two Years of the Two Ronnies (repeats):
20 October 1989 - 7.90m
27 October 1989 - 8.00m
3 November 1989 - 7.80m
10 November 1989 - 8.00m
24 November 1989 - 9.17m
1 December 1989 - 7.60m
8 December 1989 - 7.50m
15 December 1989 - 6.90m

25 Years of The Two Ronnies:
28 April 1996 - 9.09m
5 May 1996 - 8.52m
12 May 1996 - 8.48m
19 May 1996 - 8.16m
12 February 1997 - 6.31m
19 February 1997 - 8.26m
26 February 1997 - 7.57m
5 March 1997 - 6.88m
12 March 1997 - outside the top 70 (below 6.15m)
26 March 1997 - 6.88m
2 April 1997 - outside the top 70 (below 5.98m)
9 April 1997 - outside the top 70 (below 5.53m)

BBC 2 repeats
1982
06 September 1982 - 10.00m (no.1 BBC 2 show for w/e 12 September)
13 September 1982 - 9.40m (no.1 BBC 2 show for w/e 19 September)
20 September 1982 - 3.65m
27 September 1982 - 3.35m
04 October 1982 - 4.55m
11 October 1982 - 4.50m
18 October 1982 - 4.05m
25 October 1982 - 5.00m

1984
14 May 1984 - 9.05m (no.1 BBC 2 show for w/e 20 May) 9.07m
21 May 1984 - 9.00m (no.1 BBC 2 show for w/e 27 May) 9.01m
04 June 1984 - 9.90m (no.1 BBC 2 show for w/e 10 June) 9.91m
11 June 1984 - 8.95m (no.1 BBC 2 show for w/e 17 June) 8.94m
18 June 1984 - 7.30m (no.1 BBC 2 show for w/e 24 June) 7.32m

1985
14 July 1985 - 9.80m (Live Aid was top BBC 2 show with 10.05m, w/e 14 July)
21 July 1985 - 9.60m (no.1 BBC 2 show for w/e 21 July) 9.58m
28 July 1985 - 9.05m (no.1 BBC 2 show for w/e 28 July) 9.06m
04 August 1985 - 11.60m (no.1 BBC 2 show for w/e 04 August)
11 August 1985 - 10.10m (no.1 BBC 2 show for w/e 11 August) 10.08m
18 August 1985 - 11.70m (no.1 BBC 2 show for w/e 18 August) 11.69m

1987
06 July 1987 - 5.85m (no.1 BBC 2 show for w/e 12 July)
13 July 1987 - 7.50m (no.1 BBC 2 show for w/e 19 July)
20 July 1987 - 9.10m (no.1 BBC 2 show for w/e 26 July)
27 July 1987 - 7.40m (no.1 BBC 2 show for w/e 02 August)
10 August 1987 - 7.30m (no.1 BBC 2 show for w/e 16 August)

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Wow that's brilliant, thank you Ray! You've probably posted stuff like it before but have you any Christmas Eve/Boxing Day ratings from the past? And just to say the work you do in sourcing and posting all of these is incredible

Originally Posted by stv viewer:
“I think after the success of Michael McIntyre its time they commission. Danny Dyers big night out for BBC 1. A different pub every week with guests and live music and pub games like darts, snooker and pool.”

As old man Steptoe would say - bleeding awful. Sorry but that premise sounds really bad, Dyer is a very marmite person and he would be dire (pun intended) as that 'type' of person (i.e. presenting, being an entertainer). Wouldn't work at all.

Fudd

04-12-2016

Does anyone have the figure for Now You See Me from last night (Channel 4 21.00) excluding +1 please?

Ash_M1

04-12-2016

Originally Posted by lewiep93:
“BBC Strictly Press ‏@bbcstrictlyPR 4s5 seconds ago
Last night's @bbcstrictly #MusicalsWeek had a peak audience of 11.2m viewers. Average was 10.4m & 49.1% share. Most watched show on TV! 📺💃🏻

Exactly the same as last year.”

Wow! What a fabulous figure for BBC Strictly. It was an awesome show last night. Congrats to BBC Studios and the entire production team.

sunbeam007

04-12-2016

Originally Posted by lewiep93:
“Wow that's brilliant, thank you Ray! You've probably posted stuff like it before but have you any Christmas Eve/Boxing Day ratings from the past? And just to say the work you do in sourcing and posting all of these is incredible

As old man Steptoe would say - bleeding awful. Sorry but that premise sounds really bad, Dyer is a very marmite person and he would be dire (pun intended) as that type of person. Wouldn't work at all.”

I might be wrong, very wrong, but I think stv was being winky.

lewiep93

04-12-2016

Originally Posted by sunbeam007:
“I might be wrong, very wrong, but I think stv was being winky.”

I hope so.

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