The Ratings Thread (Part 68)

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A.D.P

11-12-2016

Originally Posted by lewiep93:
“From rzt:

Tipping Point: 2.42m (13.4%)
Go For It: 1.77m (8.3%)
The X Factor: 5.52m (26.9%)
* peak: 6.23m (30.7%) at 21.20
Jonathan Ross Show: 3.26m (21.7%)

Strictly Come Dancing: 9.95m (46.5%)
* peak: 10.85m (47.2%) at 20.00
Michael McIntyre's Big Show: 5.60m (26.8%)

Strictly didn't get 11.5m did it? But the shares tell the story. Interesting how ever since 2013 the semi final hasn't done as well as previous weeks.”

For a final and big name acts that's beyond dire for X Factor in fact a serious joke.

AcerBen

11-12-2016

Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“Do you think next year ITV should start to prioritise another show to the get the later slot on the weekends that will eventually take over from TXF. Each year the show returns with less viewers and still takes up the main slot in ITV's schedule.

Should they take the hit on TXF, and start pulling TXF forward to 7pm, so new shows can be launched off the back of TXF in an easier slot that's not against SCD?”

They don't HAVE another show to take over from TXF.

vauxhall1964

11-12-2016

Originally Posted by erzrocks:
“To all the Citizen Khan haters, As someone who has Pakistani friends and family I can say we watch the show every week plus as someone from Bradford ( a place which is heavily joked on the show), I know a lot of people who are not offended. Not a lot of BBC shows pulls in the ethnic diversity Citizen Khan brings in and to be honest as a Muslim its a relief being on the T.V being joked about rather then constant terrorist news. If you don't like the show don't watch it.”

Millions have taken your advice.

By the way, you should find bad comedy 'offensive', especially when there's been 5 low rating series of it, with no end in sight.

seansnotmyname@

11-12-2016

Originally Posted by Aaron_2015:
“Not good for X Factor.

I think ITV should have kept tonight's final away from Planet Earth in a 9-10.30 slot. There's no reason why it should run for two hours. They could even fit it in to an hour slot!”

ITV are not about getting praise in the rating thread, they're about making money, there's just not another show they can run that will get anything like the demo they get for x-factor.

X-factor is nowhere near the show it was, but ITV pay a lot of money for it, so will milk it for all it's worth.

david_leeward

11-12-2016

Originally Posted by KatanaBlade:
“Very poor for X Factor. Unfortunately it wasn't all that entertaining and went on too long plus tonight's to add in. The entertainment value is a bit lacking. Not that the guest performances were anything stand out either. Very weak in fact.”

I can just tolerate x factor now, watch it when im not doing anything or working but have you ever though about people getting bored of watching the same things over and over. I was bored watching it last night the spark has gone hence low ratings

david_leeward

11-12-2016

Originally Posted by A.D.P:
“For a final and big name acts that's beyond dire for X Factor in fact a serious joke.”

Haha big names? There wasnt any last night.. !

jlp95bwfc

11-12-2016

Originally Posted by A.D.P:
“For a final and big name acts that's beyond dire for X Factor in fact a serious joke.”

Big names? One of the guest performers was Honey G.

Chris1964

11-12-2016

Originally Posted by Aaron_2015:
“I don't watch Strictly, but maybe the dip in viewers at the Semi-Final stage is down to the fact it's now a serious dancing competition?”

I agree. Aside from the final, which does have event status, the show really does rely on its celebrity/ability mix. Both Balls and Rinder have done the show proud this year and taken that mix element almost to the wire. Last night was a more serious competition because there are no more celebs who are expected to go, no light relief, and I think its shed a bit of its must see aspect because of it. And ofcourse, unlike the talent shows, it doesn't really matter all that much who wins.

I think it may have taken the wind out of Ash sails though, which just might qualify as a small mercy

sunbeam007

11-12-2016

Pretty disappointing ratings last night then.
XF and MM both down a few hundred thousand from a few weeks ago. SCD down a million. Nothing else doing well except Jonathan Ross who really has bounced back well.

Seemingly many viewers have other things to do than watch TV at this time of the year. You can see why Harry Potter and Hobbits are coming out to play soon.

If you put on a two hour show, don't be surprised if your ratings take a hit because people like me will fast forward through segments.

derek500

11-12-2016

Originally Posted by sunbeam007:
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If you put on a two hour show, don't be surprised if your ratings take a hit because people like me will fast forward through segments.”

We watched episodes five and six of The Missing last night. My wife then spun through SCD and XFactor in less than two hours.

With so much quality scripted available these days, watching padded entertainment in real-time is such a time waster.

AcerBen

11-12-2016

Originally Posted by david_leeward:
“Haha big names? There wasnt any last night.. !”

The Weeknd is one of the biggest popstars on the planet right now.

Jokanovic

11-12-2016

When you have a guest slot featuring Honey G then you know you are scraping the barrel. Boos in the XF final.....

Got the audience figure it deserved im afraid, a poor final.

Ash_M1

11-12-2016

10.85m for BBC Strictly is very good. I was expecting it to get over 11m as this series has been so good.

For BBC Michael McIntyre's Big Show I said 6m so I wasn't far off. Not a massive Michael fan but I am enjoying his Saturday night variety show on Beeb 1. It compliments Strictly really well. People enjoy light hearted content on a Saturday night.

decafcappuccino

11-12-2016

Xfactor

no one cares anymore its an embarrasing joke well past its sell by date and a 4 hour final doesnt help. And beaten by michael mcintyre

sunbeam007

11-12-2016

Originally Posted by derek500:
“We watched episodes five and six of The Missing last night. My wife then spun through SCD and XFactor in less than two hours.

With so much quality scripted available these days, watching padded entertainment in real-time is such a time waster.”

I watched a lot of BBC yesterday so I'm a good boy. I enjoyed the Apprentice, NFL Show and Norton. SCD is just wallpaper TV to amuse the little uns whilst we try to sort ourselves out. The BBC is where the quality is.

Tipping Point was its usual enjoyable self. XF was fun enough but when you don't start watching until after 9pm, you aren't keen to sit through all of the interviews or judging.

Aaron_2015

11-12-2016

At this point I think X Factor just has its core fan base left. I would leave the auditions where they are, then after that I'd move it to Tuesdays, 8-10PM and Wednesdays 8-9PM. Figures would fall, but not that much lower than they already are.

Rob1985

11-12-2016

Originally Posted by david_leeward:
“Haha big names? There wasnt any last night.. !”

The Weeknd says hello.

Cestrian18

11-12-2016

One rating to make Simon Cowell happy this morning is that apparently the Finnish showing of last nights final was over 1m, in a country of approx 5 million, one in 5 finns were watching a UK TV programme last night

Fudd

11-12-2016

Originally Posted by Cestrian18:
“One rating to make Simon Cowell happy this morning is that apparently the Finnish showing of last nights final was over 1m, in a country of approx 5 million, one in 5 finns were watching a UK TV programme last night ”

Maybe Simon should emigrate?

Awful for The X Factor but year on year it doesn't make awful reading. Tonight though...

lewiep93

11-12-2016

Roundup from Hassaan.

Saturday 10th December 2016 - Overnights
BBC One
16:00 - Final Score: 1.99m (15.7%)
17:10 - Celebrity Mastermind: 2.37m (15.9%)
17:40 - BBC News: 3.67m (22.6%)
18:00 - Pointless Celebrities: 4.57m (25.8%)
18:50 - Strictly Come Dancing: 9.95m (46.5%)
* peak - 10.85m (47.2%) at 20:00
20:10 - Michael McIntyre's Big Show: 5.60m (26.8%)
21:10 - Casualty: 4.30m (21.6%)
22:00 - The National Lottery Live: 3.41m (19.7%)
22:10 - BBC News: 3.59m (22.3%)
22:30 - Match of the Day: 2.91m (23.0%)

BBC Two
16:10 - Reindeer Girls - Natural World: 0.86m (6.7%)
17:00 - FILM: Nativity!: 1.27m (7.9%)
18:40 - Operation Snow Tiger: 1.15m (5.6%)
19:40 - Grand Tours of the Scottish Islands: 0.93m (4.2%)
20:10 - Dad's Army: 1.59m (7.6%)
20:45 - Walt Disney - Part One: 1.26m (6.2%)

ITV (inc +1)
16:10 - Thunderbirds Are Go: 0.45m (3.8%)
16:35 - The Chase (r): 1.31m (9.3%)
17:35 - ITV News London: 1.90m (12.2%)
17:45 - ITV News & Weather: 1.83m (11.3%)
18:00 - Tipping Point: Lucky Stars: 2.42m (13.4%)
19:00 - Go for It: 1.77m (8.3%)
20:00 - The X Factor: 5.51m (26.9%)
* exc +1: 5.37m (26.2%)
* peak - 6.23m (30.7%) at 21:20 inc. +1
22:05 - The Jonathan Ross Show: 3.26m (21.7%)
23:10 - ITV News & Weather: 1.70m (14.4%)

Channel 4 (inc +1)
13:30 - Channel 4 Racing: 0.50m (5.3%)
20:00 - Pearl Harbor: The New Evidence: 1.09m (5.1%)
21:00 - It Was Alright in the 1970s: 1.04m (5.2%)
22:00 - FILM: Paul: 0.63m (4.9%)

Channel 5 (inc +1)
13:50 - FILM: The Nine Lives of Christmas: 0.72m (7.7%)
15:30 - FILM: Mrs Miracle 2: Miracle In Manhattan: 1.07m (9.7%)
16:30 - 5 News Update: 1.20m (9.5%)
16:40 - FILM: Mrs Miracle 2: Miracle In Manhattan: 1.30m (9.4%)
17:25 - Finding Father Christmas: 0.83m (5.1%)
18:25 - 5 News Update: 0.78m (4.4%)
18:30 - Finding Father Christmas: 0.82m (4.3%)
19:15 - NCIS: 0.52m (2.4%)
20:00 - NCIS: 0.50m (2.3%)
20:55 - 5 News Weekend: 0.49m (2.4%)
21:00 - Football On 5: The Championship: 0.51m (2.5%)

ITV2 (inc +1)
22:00 - The Xtra Factor: 300k (2.0%)

BBC Four
19:00 - The Other Pompeii: Life and Death in Herculaneum: 202k (0.9%)
20:00 - City Beneath the Waves: Pavlopetri: 330k (1.6%)
21:00 - Modus: 555k (2.7%)
21:45 - Modus: 497k (2.8%)

Primetime shares
BBC One: 31.4%
ITV: 20.3% (+1: 0.6%)
BBC Two: 5.1%
Channel 4: 3.4% (+1: 0.6%)
Channel 5: 2.1% (+1: 0.4%)

BBC One vs ITV (inc. +1) - 5 Minute Breakdown

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18:00 - 3.80m  (22.7%) | 1.98m	(11.9%)
18:05 - 3.84m  (22.5%) | 2.11m	(12.4%)
18:10 - 3.99m  (23.0%) | 2.33m	(13.4%)
18:15 - 4.20m  (24.2%) | 2.18m	(12.6%)
18:20 - 4.21m  (23.9%) | 2.37m	(13.5%)
18:25 - 4.44m  (24.9%) | 2.39m	(13.4%)
18:30 - 4.70m  (26.1%) | 2.42m	(13.4%)
18:35 - 5.13m  (28.2%) | 2.69m	(14.8%)
18:40 - 5.46m  (30.0%) | 2.65m	(14.5%)
18:45 - 5.88m  (31.8%) | 2.69m	(14.5%)
18:50 - 7.03m  (35.8%) | 2.90m	(14.8%)
18:55 - 8.59m  (41.7%) | 2.34m	(11.3%)
19:00 - 9.47m  (45.2%) | 1.55m	(7.4%)
19:05 - 9.79m  (46.6%) | 1.68m	(8.0%)
19:10 - 9.89m  (47.5%) | 1.58m	(7.6%)
19:15 - 10.09m (47.7%) | 1.65m	(7.8%)
19:20 - 10.02m (47.0%) | 1.75m	(8.2%)
19:25 - 10.37m (48.9%) | 1.72m	(8.1%)
19:30 - 10.37m (48.5%) | 1.91m	(8.9%)
19:35 - 10.54m (48.8%) | 1.96m	(9.1%)
19:40 - 10.68m (49.4%) | 1.87m	(8.6%)
19:45 - 10.77m (49.7%) | 1.86m	(8.6%)
19:50 - 10.70m (49.2%) | 1.96m	(9.0%)
19:55 - 10.81m (49.2%) | 2.14m	(9.7%)
20:00 - 10.85m (47.2%) | 3.52m	(15.3%)
20:05 - 9.32m  (41.4%) | 4.49m 	(20.0%)
20:10 - 6.72m  (31.6%) | 5.21m	(24.6%)
20:15 - 5.46m  (26.0%) | 5.72m	(27.3%)
20:20 - 5.39m  (26.4%) | 5.13m	(25.1%)
20:25 - 5.44m  (26.6%) | 5.19m	(25.3%)
20:30 - 5.33m  (25.0%) | 5.89m	(27.6%)
20:35 - 5.44m  (25.7%) | 5.64m	(26.6%)
20:40 - 5.48m  (26.6%) | 5.06m	(24.6%)
20:45 - 5.56m  (26.1%) | 6.02m	(28.2%)
20:50 - 5.36m  (25.3%) | 6.01m	(28.4%)
20:55 - 5.77m  (28.4%) | 5.23m	(25.7%)
21:00 - 5.96m  (28.1%) | 6.12m	(28.9%)
21:05 - 5.25m  (25.6%) | 5.50m	(26.8%)
21:10 - 4.41m  (21.8%) | 5.72m	(28.3%)
21:15 - 4.33m  (21.3%) | 5.95m	(29.2%)
21:20 - 4.21m  (20.7%) | 6.23m	(30.7%)
21:25 - 4.18m  (20.7%) | 6.22m	(30.8%)
21:30 - 4.15m  (20.9%) | 5.82m	(29.3%)
21:35 - 4.20m  (21.0%) | 5.67m	(28.3%)
21:40 - 4.24m  (21.7%) | 5.15m	(26.4%)
21:45 - 4.40m  (22.5%) | 5.64m	(28.8%)
21:50 - 4.49m  (23.5%) | 5.10m	(26.7%)
21:55 - 4.40m  (22.5%) | 5.92m	(30.3%)
22:00 - 3.33m  (18.4%) | 5.82m	(32.2%)
22:05 - 3.50m  (21.2%) | 3.54m	(21.5%)
22:10 - 3.49m  (21.5%) | 3.39m	(20.9%)
22:15 - 3.68m  (22.5%) | 3.38m	(20.7%)
22:20 - 3.75m  (23.1%) | 3.36m	(20.7%)
22:25 - 3.44m  (22.1%) | 3.09m	(19.8%)
22:30 - 3.23m  (21.1%) | 3.45m	(22.6%)
22:35 - 3.42m  (22.3%) | 3.49m	(22.8%)
22:40 - 3.31m  (22.4%) | 3.16m	(21.4%)
22:45 - 3.27m  (22.1%) | 3.29m	(22.3%)
22:50 - 3.33m  (22.9%) | 3.29m	(22.6%)
22:55 - 3.19m  (22.8%) | 3.03m	(21.6%)
23:00 - 3.25m  (23.7%) | 3.18m	(23.2%)
23:05 - 3.25m  (24.1%) | 3.02m	(22.5%)
23:10 - 3.09m  (24.3%) | 2.17m	(17.1%)
23:15 - 2.95m  (24.4%) | 1.84m	(15.2%)
23:20 - 2.69m  (23.1%) | 1.56m  (13.4%)
23:25 - 2.59m  (23.2%) | 1.18m	(10.6%)
23:30 - 2.47m  (23.5%) | 0.90m  (8.6%)
23:35 - 2.34m  (23.0%) | 0.65m  (6.4%)
23:40 - 2.35m  (23.8%) | 0.63m  (6.4%)
23:45 - 1.94m  (21.2%) | 0.52m  (5.6%)
23:50 - 0.98m  (11.9%) | 0.53m	(6.5%)
23:55 - 0.75m  (9.7%)  | 0.54m  (7.0%)

JCR

11-12-2016

Originally Posted by iaindb:
“My mum has stuck with DOND right to the end, but she's found it a bit hard keeping up with the different times of transmission. The 1.10pm screenings have clashed with the Aussie soaps on C5 that she also watches so I had to guide her to C4+1. That wasn't a problem this week, of course, because the soaps have stopped for Christmas.

Mum is also a fan of TP. I told her DOND On Tour clashes with it but that TP is a repeat. However Mum likes her afternoon dose of Ben Shepherd and the machine so I'll record On Tour and she'll catch up with it over Christmas. Obviously, though, as Mum is not part of the BARB sample, her viewing habits don't affect the ratings.”

This is usually how long running series end. They change the timeslot, put it opposite Coronation Street, make changes to the format, cut the budget, say there might be more but it's not decided yet. You need to make people not care first, because if you axe something that people have nostalgia for and could be argued still has legs you're risking negative pr. Channel 4 also did most of the above to Time team, fairly unsubtly.

There is an interesting talking heads piece about this on the 'Doctor Who- Survival' dvd.

ftv

11-12-2016

There were quite a lot of regional variations to BBC2 in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.

JCR

11-12-2016

Originally Posted by ftv:
“There were quite a lot of regional variations to BBC2 in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.”

There always are I think, Scotland doesn't get Dad's Army.

Cestrian18

11-12-2016

ITV do have a dilemma on their hands with X Factor, it has fallen but it does skew into very favourable demographics (if this was the US, the Nielsen rating would be a big one)

However, they can't keep supporting it as it falls. So do they let it limp on, in what seems to be terminal decline until it fizzles out a la DOI or do they try some bold scheduling to try and keep it?

It really depends how well The Voice does for them, if they manage to revive the format (which is a big if considering how many switched off last year) then they have a ready made XF replacement and I'd look to market next year's X Factor as a swansong and let it go out on a relative high. If not, you could look at moving Britains got Talent to the Winter, Keep the Voice in Spring, and have SNT in the spring summer BGT slot. You could easily extend the BGT format slightly by taking on some of the US format and then strip the finals the week before Christmas- Peak Advertising time across 5 nights of the week would look attractive rather than in the middle of summer like it is now.

I don't think the loss of XF would be too great imo, ITV could definitely mitigate it but it depends on schedules and and having a bit of a plan for post XF. It definitely won't be here post 2020 so putting the infrastructure in place to quietly drop it would be a good move.

(This is purely figures based by the way, I think I must be the only one that actually enjoyed last nights final, it was well done I thought)

Ash_M1

11-12-2016

Originally Posted by JCR:
“There always are I think, Scotland doesn't get Dad's Army.”

Why don't Scotland understand Dad's Army?

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