The Ratings Thread (Part 68)

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H of De Vil

12-12-2016

Thanks lewi. Countryfile peaks at 9.6m at 7.15pm before SCD starts. Well no wonder its rating is so inflated. BBC have got their sschedule spot on.

Whereas OTR was given a slot in the one of the highest rating months of the year, despite being a real stinker now. Magician and OTR should never see the light of day again. ITV can do better in those slots, just need to be more bold with programmes and scheduling. If you put missable LE in that slot, what do you expect.

SCD did very well last night, but faced very little competition, and has done for years.

Dan R

12-12-2016

Originally Posted by lewiep93:
“2011 - 11.20m (42.4%) ... -14%
2012 - 9.1m (36%) ... -19%
2013 - 8.78m (35.8%) ... -3%
2014 - 8.06m (34.1%) ... -8%
2015 - 7.01m (31.1%) ... -12%
2016 - 6.50m (29.5%) ... -7%

* includes +1 for XF comparisons from 2011 onwards”

So this year had the least drop since 2013, and the second-least overall. The share also only dropped by a very insignificant amount. That is despite it facing far stronger competition this year for much of the live shows.

Originally Posted by thengp12:
“So that confirms that in the overnights that it is the lowest rated series of The X Factor ever. Appalling really. Not bringing the advertising £s is it?”

Oh cut out the exaggerations.
And you know it's not bringing in the ad revenue how? Oh wait, you don't. Simon will have made miles more off this series of XF than you will ever make as an annual salary!

Dan R

12-12-2016

Originally Posted by PaulJoseph22:
“Surprised the X- Factor got 7m viewers. Show could have been done and dusted in 45m but was dragged out to 125m. Some of the guest performers on it were tragic.
The show seems to be all about Nicole. A diabolical series with less viewers than last years shambles.”

Never knew you had better performance skills than Little Mix, Charlie Puth, Kylie and Madness.

Well you could also argue that SCD could be 'done and dusted' in 30 minutes or less but then you don't complain about that do you. Bet you don't complain about guest stars and other features like this on SCD - that's because you know, deep down, that there's more to a show than rushing performance after performance without soul or friendliness. It's just another cheap way to attack XF.

thengp12

12-12-2016

Originally Posted by Dan R:
“Oh cut out the exaggerations.
And you know it's not bringing in the ad revenue how? Oh wait, you don't. Simon will have made miles more off this series of XF than you will ever make as an annual salary!”

BIU No exaggeration. It is across the board. If the share was the same then yes you could say that the audience everywhere has reduced but it hasn't, has it?

BIBThanks for the insult Dan

. Really appreciate it. I can always count on you to make me and other posters feel a lot better in the festive period.

Dancc

12-12-2016

Channel 5 Programme Information
Week 2 2017: w/c 7th January

New & Returning:
* NCIS (New Season)
* The Week We Went Wild (New Series)
* Celebrity 100% Hotter (New Series)
* Penguin A&E with Lorraine Kelly (New Episodes)
* Britain's Biggest Armed Robbery (New)
* Twenty20 Cricket: Hobart v Sydney (Live)

New to Spike:
* Lip Sync Battle [U.S.] (New Season)

Source: C5.

Dancc

12-12-2016

Week 2 of Lip Sync Battle UK is Alexander Armstrong v Jimmy Carr. Should be fun!

The series has been cut to 4 episodes though from the planned 7 - read into that what you will.

lewiep93

12-12-2016

Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Week 2 of Lip Sync Battle UK is Alexander Armstrong v Jimmy Carr. Should be fun!

The series has been cut to 4 episodes though from the planned 7 - read into that what you will.”

How did Lip Sync Battle rate over its run (didn't follow its ratings)? I really enjoyed it.

Edit - just looked on BARB:
08/01 - 2.35m
15/01 - 2.28m
22/01 - 1.88m
29/01 - 1.62m
05/02 - 1.56m
12/02 - 0.96m

The BB lead in obviously helped. Just looked on Wikipedia; Katie Price v Ben Fogle?! Crikey, two people you'd never put together

Aaron_2015

12-12-2016

Originally Posted by Dan R:
“So this year had the least drop since 2013, and the second-least overall. The share also only dropped by a very insignificant amount. That is despite it facing far stronger competition this year for much of the live shows.

Oh cut out the exaggerations.
And you know it's not bringing in the ad revenue how? Oh wait, you don't. Simon will have made miles more off this series of XF than you will ever make as an annual salary!”

What's even sadder than all of us making nowhere near the amount Simon Cowell makes Dan is that your constant defence of him. For what exactly? Nothing, absolutely nothing.

PaulJoseph22

12-12-2016

Originally Posted by Dan R:
“Never knew you had better performance skills than Little Mix, Charlie Puth, Kylie and Madness.

Well you could also argue that SCD could be 'done and dusted' in 30 minutes or less but then you don't complain about that do you. Bet you don't complain about guest stars and other features like this on SCD - that's because you know, deep down, that there's more to a show than rushing performance after performance without soul or friendliness. It's just another cheap way to attack XF.”

There's no need to address or make comments about me. I'm making an observation on a TV programme.

LHolmes

12-12-2016

Originally Posted by xeo:
“Corrie is doing decent lately.

Reports of its death have been greatly exaggerated...

On the other hand, EastEnders can't even crack 7m in the officials in *December*. Looks like it's going to have another tough year. Though the Emmerdale figure is making it look worse.”

Although it's worth remembering that Corrie was getting 8m overnights under Phil Collinson which wasn't that long ago.

It's nice to see it perking up a bit though.

Jonwo

12-12-2016

That's probably their best coup since Walliams v Dixon, wonder how bad 3 of those episodes are if they're not showing them as part of series 2

Dancc

12-12-2016

Originally Posted by lewiep93:
“How did Lip Sync Battle rate over its run (didn't follow its ratings)? I really enjoyed it.”

Officials inc. +1:
2.54m / 2.48m / 2.06m / 1.84m / 1.62m / 1.09m

The last episode had no CBB support and the one prior to that went out at 11pm after the CBB final, but obviously a negative that it lost viewers throughout. Still think there's a lot of potential with this format though.

H of De Vil

12-12-2016

Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Channel 5 Programme Information
Week 2 2017: w/c 7th January

New & Returning:
* NCIS (New Season)
* The Week We Went Wild (New Series)
* Celebrity 100% Hotter (New Series)
* Penguin A&E with Lorraine Kelly (New Episodes)
* Britain's Biggest Armed Robbery (New)
* Twenty20 Cricket: Hobart v Sydney (Live)

New to Spike:
* Lip Sync Battle [U.S.] (New Season)

Source: C5.”

BIB Why?

I can't say there is much there that interest me. I like watching nature/vet series, so only the Penguin one I might watch, But I can't stand Lorraine Kelly.

H of De Vil

12-12-2016

Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Week 2 of Lip Sync Battle UK is Alexander Armstrong v Jimmy Carr. Should be fun!

The series has been cut to 4 episodes though from the planned 7 - read into that what you will.”

Struggling to find celebs to take part I imagine.

Score

12-12-2016

That's odd. Did they film all 7 still or did they cancel the recordings? A bit odd, clearly they don't feel confident in it away from CBB. Perhaps the other 3 (if made) will turn up with the Summer series of CBB.

Aren't there still 2 unaired episodes from the first series too? I swear they filmed 8 but only aired 6.

Jonwo

12-12-2016

Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“BIB Why?

I can't say there is much there that interest me. I like watching nature/vet series, so only the Penguin one I might watch, But I can't stand Lorraine Kelly.”

I think Penguin A&E will probably be similar to Dog Rescuers where she'll just narrate and do the intro and outtro

Pizzatheaction

12-12-2016

Maybe they're keeping the rest of the Battle series to air during the second 2017 series of Celebrity Big Brother.

H of De Vil

12-12-2016

Originally Posted by Fudd:
“Not sure if this has been published already on here but the provisional schedules for week beginning 2nd January:

Spoiler

Monday 2nd January

BBC One
19.00 The One Show
19.30 Celebrity Mastermind
20.00 EastEnders
20.30 Would I Loie To You?
21.00 Silent Witness

BBC Two
19.00 Rick Stein's Long Weekends
20.00 University Challenge
20.30 An Island Parish
21.00 Britian's Ancient Capital: Secrets fo Orkney
22.00 Charlie Brooker's 2016 Wipe

ITV
19.00 Emmerdale
19.30 Coronation Street
20.00 You've Been Framed!
20.30 Coronation Street
2100 The Halycon

Channel 4
19.30 Life's a Beach
20.00 Food Unwrapped Special
21.00 The Undateables
22.00 19 Kids and Counting

Channel 5
19.00 Ken Dodd... In My Own Words
20.55 News Update
21.00 Football on Five
22.00 Football on Five
22.30 Most Shocking Celebrity Moments of 2016

Tuesday 3rd January

BBC One
19.00 The One Show
19.30 EastEnders
20.00 Holby City
21.00 Silent Witness

BBC Two
19.00 Rick Stein's Long Weekends
20.00 The Great Interior Design Challenge
21.00 Yellowstone
22.00 Revolting

ITV
19.00 Emmerdale
19.30 Britain as Seen on ITV
20.00 Paul O'Grady For the Love of Dogs
21.00 Robson Crusoe: A Surprising Adventure

Channel 4
20.00 How to Lose Weight Well
21.00 24 Hours in A and E
22.00 This Is Us

Channel 5
19.00 To B&B the Best
20.00 A New Life in Oz
21.00 Celebrity Big Brother
23.05 Celebrity Big Brother's Bit on the Side

Wednesday 4th January

BBC One
19.00 The One Show
20.00 The Sheriffs are Coming
21.00 Italy's Invisible Cities

BBC Two
19.00 Rick Stein's Long Weekends
20.00 The Great Interior Design Challenge
21.00 Yellowstone
22.00 Second Opinion

ITV
19.00 Emmerdale
19.30 Coronation Street
20.00 Midsomer Murders

Channel 4
20.00 Location Location Location
21.00 No Offence
22.00 A Very British Brothel

Channel 5
19.00 The Nightmare Neighbour Next Door
20.00 GPs: Behind Closed Doors
21.00 Celebrity Big Brother
22.00 In Therapy

Thursday 5th January

BBC One
19.00 The One Show
19.30 A Question of Sport
20.00 EastEnders
21.00 Death in Paradise

BBC Two
19.00 Rick Stein's Long Weekends
20.00 The Great Interior Design Challenge
21.00 Yellowstone
22.00 Mock the Week

ITV
19.00 Emmerdale
20.00 The Money Saving Diet Show
21.00 Unforgotten

Channel 4
20.00 The Restoration Man
21.00 Spies
22.00 60 Days in Jail

Channel 5
19.00 Bloody Tales of the Tower
20.00 Bargain Loving Brits in the Sun
21.00 Celebrity Big Brother
22.00 Get Your Tatts Out: Kavos Ink

Friday 6th January

BBC One
19.00 The One Show
19.30 Match of the Day Live: The FA Cup - West Ham United v Manchester City

BBC Two
19.00 Big Dream Small Spaces
20.00 Mastermind
20.30 Only Connect
21.00 World's Most Extraordinary Homes
22.00 QI

ITV
19.00 Emmerdale
19.30 Coronation Street
20.00 Best Walks with a View with Julia Bradbury
20.30 Coronation Street
21.00 The Big Soap Quiz: Coronation Street v Emmerdale

Channel 4
20.00 Jamie and Jimmy's Friday Night Feast
21.00 The Big Fat Quiz of Everything
22.35 Lee Mack

Channel 5
19.00 That's So 1989
20.00 Cats Make You Laugh Out Loud
21.00 Celebrity Big Brother
22.00 Lip Sync Battle UK
22.30 Celebrity Big Brother
23.05 Celebrity Big Brother's Bit on the Side

”

Thanks Fudd

Nice to see ITV start off the New Year with a YBF rpt. That's what I like to see.

On Tuesday 3rd, ITV look a bit stronger on the Tuesday and should do relatively well, IF they promote POG dogs. Otherwise it'll be under 3m. The 9pm slot looks like under 2m to me.

The Halycon should provide SW with a bit more como, though whether it can hold its own, I have no idea.

Thursday is interesting. The 8pm show will either be 2-3m or 4m+. I'm pretty sure health series do well in the Nwe Year after Christmas. At 9pm is Unforgotten against DIP. The trailer for Unforgotten isn't very grabbing though. It doesn't have any pull for me.

Here it is below. See what you think:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQV81dqu57Y

It just doesn't have that: 'I must watch that' feel to it.

Its going to fascinating to see what ITV do on the weekends. I hope they are not as predictable as I think they'll be.

Oliver_Tomlinso

12-12-2016

Soul or friendliness in X factor

Tyyleer

12-12-2016

Originally Posted by vauxhall1964:
“you mean like people knowing Will Young was gay stopped him winning Pop Idol?”

Will Young didn't come out until after Pop Idol had finished *facepalm*

Score

12-12-2016

Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“Thursday is interesting. The 8pm show will either be 2-3m or 4m+. I'm pretty sure health series do well in the Nwe Year after Christmas. At 9pm is Unforgotten against DIP. The trailer for Unforgotten isn't very grabbing though. It doesn't have any pull for me.

Here it is below. See what you think:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQV81dqu57Y

It just doesn't have that: 'I must watch that' feel to it.

Its going to fascinating to see what ITV do on the weekends. I hope they are not as predictable as I think they'll be.”

I think they could have done a better job of that Unforgoten trailer. I'm sure the show itself will be good (the first series was) but that trailer doesn't sell it all that well which is a shame.

The early provisionals just released have Endeavour down for Sunday at 8pm. Everything else is TBA at the moment but BBC1 have (Saturday then Sunday)

6.10 Pointless Celebrities
7.00 Let it Shine
8.25 Casualty
9.15 Taboo
10.15 BBC News
10.30 Match of The Day

7.00 Countryfile
8.00 Still Open All Hours
8.30 Sherlock

sunbeam007

12-12-2016

Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“Thanks lewi. Countryfile peaks at 9.6m at 7.15pm before SCD starts. Well no wonder its rating is so inflated. BBC have got their sschedule spot on.

Whereas OTR was given a slot in the one of the highest rating months of the year, despite being a real stinker now. Magician and OTR should never see the light of day again. ITV can do better in those slots, just need to be more bold with programmes and scheduling. If you put missable LE in that slot, what do you expect.

SCD did very well last night, but faced very little competition, and has done for years.”

So that's Off Their Rockers,, Next Great Magician, Play To The Whistle, Meet The Parents, Go For It and Jonathan Ross you've axed.

These new shows you're putting up against SCD hopefully will perform well.

Zac Quinn

12-12-2016

Originally Posted by Baz_James:
“Oh, can the smug attitude! There's nothing disgusting about it. Are you suggesting that they should have same-sex couples in the mixed doubles at Wimbledon? No, of course not. It's a complete non-issue dreamed up by BBC bashers.”

Am I a BBC basher now? I've had many accusations thrown at me on these forums over the years but never that

It's mainly disgusting the way they dismiss the idea, the infamous "it's a family show" comment in particular. The BBC as a PSB should have no reservations about breaking with 'tradition' and it's one of the few instances where I agree they put ratings above the quality of their output, but I guess it's their choice.

Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Week 2 of Lip Sync Battle UK is Alexander Armstrong v Jimmy Carr. Should be fun!.”

Sounds great

Xander's singing appearances on TV have always been serious so far so it'll be good to see him let his hair down (or indeed put it up, should his chosen song require that

)

sunbeam007

12-12-2016

Originally Posted by Score:
“I think they could have done a better job of that Unforgoten trailer. I'm sure the show itself will be good (the first series was) but that trailer doesn't sell it all that well which is a shame.

The early provisionals just released have Endeavour down for Sunday at 8pm. Everything else is TBA at the moment but BBC1 have (Saturday then Sunday)

6.10 Pointless Celebrities
7.00 Let it Shine
8.25 Casualty
9.15 Taboo
10.15 BBC News
10.30 Match of The Day

7.00 Countryfile
8.00 Still Open All Hours
8.30 Sherlock”

Fox have advertised Taboo so much I feel like I've seen the first episode. I'm not keen on the idea of it following Casualty, I would rather it was the drama or the night.

Disappointing but predictable seeing Pointless Celebrities on in the 6slot. They're leaving LIS on an island and saying this is your big LE show on a Saturday night in January.
85 minutes is close to a 110 minute show on ITV which seems a little long.

Roscoe Barnes

12-12-2016

Originally Posted by lewiep93:
“Roundup from Hassaan.

Sunday 11th December 2016 - Overnights
BBC One
14:55 - FILM: Kung Fu Panda: 1.28m (11.1%)
16:20 - Planet Earth II (r): 2.09m (13.9%)
17:20 - Songs of Praise: 2.38m (13.5%)
17:55 - BBC News: 4.42m (22.4%)
18:20 - Countryfile: 6.85m (31.9%)
19:20 - Strictly Come Dancing: The Results: 10.95m (43.7%)
* 1-minute peak: 12.5m (46.6%) at 20:00
* overnight series average (to date): 9.8m (45.1%)
20:00 - Planet Earth II: 9.47m (36.3%)
* overnight series average: 9.65m (37.3%)
* Planet Earth 1 overnight series average: 7.4m (28.6%)
21:00 - My Mother and Other Strangers: 4.03m (17.0%)
22:00 - BBC News: 4.31m (21.9%)
22:20 - BBC Regional News: 4.14m (24.7%)
22:30 - Match of the Day 2: 2.30m (20.6%)

BBC Two
17:35 - Flog It!: 1.26m (6.4%)
18:35 - The Toys That Made Christmas: 1.46m (6.3%)
20:00 - FILM: The Lone Ranger: 1.77m (7.3%)
22:20 - QI XL: 0.76m (5.3%)

ITV (inc +1)
18:30 - Off Their Rockers: 1.84m (8.6%)
19:00 - The Next Great Magician: 2.29m (9.6%)
20:00 - The X Factor Final: 7.02m (28.3%)
* 5-minute peak: 8.31m (35.1%) at 21:55
* 1-minute peak: 8.5m (36.0%) "just before 10pm"
* overnight series average: 6.50m (29.5%)
* exc +1: 6.82m (27.5%)
22:05 - ITV News & Weather: 2.55m (14.1%)

Channel 4 (inc +1)
16:00 - FILM: Jingle All the Way: 1.02m (6.8%)
17:45 - Channel 4 News: 0.72m (3.7%)
18:15 - FILM: Paddington: 2.64m (11.6%)
20:00 - Christmas at the Chateau: 1.66m (6.4%)
21:00 - Humans: 1.05m (4.5%)
22:00 - Gogglebox (r): 0.98m (6.3%)

Channel 5 (inc +1)
15:35 - FILM: A Prince For Christmas: 1.18m (8.5%)
17:20 - FILM: Cinderella Christmas: 1.34m (7.2%)
18:20 - 5 News Update: 1.33m (6.4%)
18:25 - FILM: Cinderella Christmas: 1.40m (6.5%)
19:10 - FILM: Jackie Chan's Forbidden Kingdom: 0.83m (3.3%)
21:00 - FILM: The Expendables 3: 1.36m (5.8%)
22:00 - 5 News Update: 1.25m (5.7%)
22:05 - FILM: The Expendables 3: 1.36m (9.5%)

ITV2 (inc +1)
22:05 - The Xtra Factor: 681k (4.4%)
* 22:00-22:15: 613k (3.1%)
* 22:15-22:30: 786k (4.6%)
* 22:30-22:45: 665k (4.5%)
* 22:45-23:00: 580k (4.3%)

More4 (inc +1)
21:00 - Father Ted: 511k (2.2%)

Primetime shares
BBC One: 30.0%
ITV: 20.0% (+1: 0.5%)
BBC Two: 6.9%
Channel 4: 6.1% (+1: 1.2%)
Channel 5: 4.5% (+1: 0.4%)

BBC One Breakdown

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18:00 - 4.65m (23.3%) 18:15 - 5.01m (24.2%) 18:30 - 6.09m (28.7%) 18:45 - 6.92m (32.0%) 19:00 - 8.10m (37.2%) 19:15 - 9.64m (40.8%) 19:30 - 10.79m (43.3%) 19:45 - 11.68m (45.2%) 20:00 - 9.46m (36.7%) 20:15 - 9.45m (36.2%) 20:30 - 9.55m (36.5%) 20:45 - 9.43m (35.8%) 21:00 - 4.70m (19.3%) 21:15 - 3.93m (16.4%) 21:30 - 3.73m (16.0%) 21:45 - 3.77m (16.2%) 22:00 - 4.28m (21.3%) 22:15 - 4.22m (24.5%)

ITV Breakdown (inc +1)

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19:00 - 1.93m (8.9%) 19:15 - 2.34m (9.9%) 19:30 - 2.44m (9.8%) 19:45 - 2.56m (10.0%) 20:00 - 5.94m (23.0%) 20:15 - 6.36m (24.4%) 20:30 - 6.59m (25.3%) 20:45 - 6.81m (25.9%) 21:00 - 7.44m (30.5%) 21:15 - 7.58m (31.7%) 21:30 - 7.22m (31.0%) 21:45 - 7.68m (32.9%) 22:00 - 4.71m (23.5%) 22:15 - 2.20m (12.8%)

The X Factor Final - overnight ratings

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2004: 8.1m (36.0%) [peak: 10.5m (45.0%)]| 9.7m (41.0%) [peak: 10.5m (45.0%)] 2005: 9.2m (40.0%) [peak: 11.8m (48.0%)]| 9.3m (36.0%) [peak: 11.0m (41.3%)] 2006: 10.31m (45.0%) [peak: 10.9m (47.7%)]| 10.37m (44.0%) [peak: 12.56m (56.3%)] 2007: 11.36m (46.9%) [peak: 12.0m (50.0%)]| 11.67m (49.9%) [peak: 12.74m (55.1%)] 2008: 13.20m (50.3%) [peak: 14.61m (54.4%)]| 13.46m (54.4%) [peak: 14.59m (61.4%)] 2009: 12.36m (47.9%) [peak: 14.46m (54.1%)]| 15.62m (53.2%) [peak: 19.11m (61.9%)] 2010: 14.05m (52.6%) [peak: 15.36m (55.0%)]| 17.15m (54.9%) [peak: 19.44m (60.5%)] 2011: 10.92m (41.5%) [peak: 12.2m (45.1%)]| 13.10m (45.1%) [peak: 15.54m (50.4%)] 2012: 9.50m (39.3%) [peak: 10.51m (43.6%)]| 11.07m (39.6%) [peak: 12.76m (44.8%)] 2013: 8.54m (36.1%) | 9.73m (37.1%) [peak: 11.94m (42.7%)] 2014: 8.39m (36.9%) [peak: 9.1m (38.2%)]| 9.35m (35.7%) [peak: 10.50m (38.5%)] 2015: 5.94m (27.5%) [peak: 6.43m (29.4%)]| 8.36m (34.4%) [peak: 9.90m (41.0%)] 2015: 5.52m (26.9%) [peak: 6.23m (30.7%)]| 7.02m (28.3%) [peak: 8.31m (35.1%)]

The X Factor - overnight series averages
2004 - 7.0m
2005 - 8.3m ... +19% (y-o-y change)
2006 - 7.9m (36%) ... -5%
2007 - 8.2m (37%) ... +4%
2008 - 9.7m (42%) ... +19%
2009 - 11.99m (45.8%) ... +23%
2010 - 13.00m (47.9%) ... +8%
2011 - 11.20m (42.4%) ... -14%
2012 - 9.1m (36%) ... -19%
2013 - 8.78m (35.8%) ... -3%
2014 - 8.06m (34.1%) ... -8%
2015 - 7.01m (31.1%) ... -12%
2016 - 6.50m (29.5%) ... -7%

* includes +1 for XF comparisons from 2011 onwards”

Thanks to Hassaan for this list and lewie for posting in on here.

Truly fascinating stuff.

XF concluded as I expected. With PEII in the way for the first hour, it was never going to match last years 8.4m. The series average isn't too bad in hindsight given how the lives have rated but it can't afford to slip any further (although it obviously will). I'd keep the same panel and Dermot and work harder next year on putting through the right acts to the live shows.

Strictly really hitting it's stride now. 11.0m for it's result show. I really hope the final can do a high number on Saturday. Surely 11.5m isn't unrealistic now?

Planet Earth II concluded with another decent number. What an epic series and fully deserving of the ratings its been getting (and somehow those XF results shows held up remarkably well against it - could have been much worse).

Also - can we start a campaign to get Hassaan back on this forum?!

He's missed massively and this kind of data is excellent for this thread.

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