Originally Posted by DanManF1:
“Yes, but why?
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“Yes, but why?
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Queen Elizabeth in attendance rather than Prince Charles the year before? Didn't it also go out on a Sunday that year too, traditionally the biggest night of viewing?
The Ratings Thread (Part 68)
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Queen Elizabeth in attendance rather than Prince Charles the year before? Didn't it also go out on a Sunday that year too, traditionally the biggest night of viewing?
Originally Posted by Baz_James:
“I refer the honourable member to the answer I gave some moments ago.
Donny Osmond was also on the bill in the days when he still set the lady's hearts a flutter.”
“I refer the honourable member to the answer I gave some moments ago.
Donny Osmond was also on the bill in the days when he still set the lady's hearts a flutter.”
I lasted just three minutes before I had to switch it off.
Originally Posted by Hassaan13:
“Queen Elizabeth in attendance rather than Prince Charles the year before? Didn't it also go out on a Sunday that year too, traditionally the biggest night of viewing?”
“Queen Elizabeth in attendance rather than Prince Charles the year before? Didn't it also go out on a Sunday that year too, traditionally the biggest night of viewing?”
Wikipedia (yes, I know) says it went out on Wednesday 28th November. Although, it also says that the host for that year is 'TBC', so that may not be too reliable...
Originally Posted by Hassaan13:
“I'm b-b-back! Thanks to the mods for giving me another chance.
As for last night's ratings, poor for the BBC Music Awards, but solid for the Prince Philip doc on ITV.”
“I'm b-b-back! Thanks to the mods for giving me another chance.
As for last night's ratings, poor for the BBC Music Awards, but solid for the Prince Philip doc on ITV.”
Fantastic. Great to have you back
Originally Posted by Jaycee Dove:
“To elaborate on what I said on here last night the answer is yes and that is the problem.
Ballroom dancing is a male/female partnership thing and has nothing to do with sexual orientation. It is about form and motion and fluidity and this to a degree works via the costumes and shapes that these allow to be created.
The steps, lifts and moves all work around one man and one woman complementing each other.
Yes, you could adapt them to suit a gay relationship but the dance that results would be so different from all the others in the same category that it would likely be impossible to get the viewers to judge it fairly in comparison. So inevitably there would likely be underscoring that would then (in my view) not be primarily related to homophobia but to the fact that they are seeing dances that are just too unlike what is expected.
I very much doubt most gay contestants prefer to dance with a same sex partner if they actually want to win rather than just make a political point. To some extent I understand that desire, of course, given my circumstances. But it will likely just make things worse.
Strictly is clearly not remotely homophobic. There have been plenty of gay contestants and they have had trans contestants regardless of whether these were gay or straight trans people (as there are both, of course).
All of this suggests the reasons are to do with the dynamics of the male/female balance in this dance competition which the show seem to feel should be what it is about.
If anyone is pressing for gay couples to get a chance then they should be suggesting a strictly gay special where all the couples compete with the same advantages and disadvantages. Because then the underscoring of a one off gay couple which I suspect would happen because of the uniqueness within the show of the dances they do would not be construed as something that I suspect it would not actually be.”
“To elaborate on what I said on here last night the answer is yes and that is the problem.
Ballroom dancing is a male/female partnership thing and has nothing to do with sexual orientation. It is about form and motion and fluidity and this to a degree works via the costumes and shapes that these allow to be created.
The steps, lifts and moves all work around one man and one woman complementing each other.
Yes, you could adapt them to suit a gay relationship but the dance that results would be so different from all the others in the same category that it would likely be impossible to get the viewers to judge it fairly in comparison. So inevitably there would likely be underscoring that would then (in my view) not be primarily related to homophobia but to the fact that they are seeing dances that are just too unlike what is expected.
I very much doubt most gay contestants prefer to dance with a same sex partner if they actually want to win rather than just make a political point. To some extent I understand that desire, of course, given my circumstances. But it will likely just make things worse.
Strictly is clearly not remotely homophobic. There have been plenty of gay contestants and they have had trans contestants regardless of whether these were gay or straight trans people (as there are both, of course).
All of this suggests the reasons are to do with the dynamics of the male/female balance in this dance competition which the show seem to feel should be what it is about.
If anyone is pressing for gay couples to get a chance then they should be suggesting a strictly gay special where all the couples compete with the same advantages and disadvantages. Because then the underscoring of a one off gay couple which I suspect would happen because of the uniqueness within the show of the dances they do would not be construed as something that I suspect it would not actually be.”
Jaycee putting it better than I ever could. Strictly's reply to same sex dancers could have been put better, but to suggest it's homophobic because they don't do it is nonsense. Strictly dances are based on the styles between the sexes when they do. A one off special with same sex couples? Yeah try that. Don't force it on the main show as then it becomes an agenda and a stick to beat the show with because they choose not to do it and change a format which works. Some people need to pick their battles better. There are far more places that need better representation and treatment of gay people in society than saying Strictly is bad for not having same sex couples.
The first fight has been announced for ITV Box Office...
http://www.itv.com/presscentre/press...ld-title-fight
http://www.itv.com/presscentre/press...ld-title-fight
Originally Posted by DanManF1:
“The first fight has been announced for ITV Box Office...
http://www.itv.com/presscentre/press...ld-title-fight”
“The first fight has been announced for ITV Box Office...
http://www.itv.com/presscentre/press...ld-title-fight”
No mention of how many arm and leg combos it's gonna cost I see!
Originally Posted by DanManF1:
“The first fight has been announced for ITV Box Office...
http://www.itv.com/presscentre/press...ld-title-fight”
“The first fight has been announced for ITV Box Office...
http://www.itv.com/presscentre/press...ld-title-fight”
Hmm, Eubank Jr's fights were not all that popular when shown FTA on C5.
I think the fight against Blackwell in March was the highest rated (1.5m) but that was as much down to Blackwell as anything.
In any case, boxing is pretty screwed if even ITV are going down the PPV route. A crying shame for the sport.
The BBC Music Awards should change its name to the Top of the Pops Christmas Concert with a reveal at the end for the song of the year.. Slap some christmas decorations around the stage and ensure that they have at least a video of the winner saying thank you if they are unable to do a live link.
It's not MTV and not The Brits and the best way to continue is to just forget trying to create a new awards ceremony.
It's not MTV and not The Brits and the best way to continue is to just forget trying to create a new awards ceremony.
I wonder if we are approaching a time where adverts that can't be skipped are on catch-up programmes and if you want to remove the ads you'll need to subscribe to a freemium service.
http://www.itv.com/presscentre/press...ption-offering
sky will be different since they already charge subscriptions and boxsets are part of the package.
http://www.itv.com/presscentre/press...ption-offering
sky will be different since they already charge subscriptions and boxsets are part of the package.
Originally Posted by sunbeam007:
“I wonder if we are approaching a time where adverts that can't be skipped are on catch-up programmes and if you want to remove the ads you'll need to subscribe to a freemium service.
http://www.itv.com/presscentre/press...ption-offering
sky will be different since they already charge subscriptions and boxsets are part of the package.”
“I wonder if we are approaching a time where adverts that can't be skipped are on catch-up programmes and if you want to remove the ads you'll need to subscribe to a freemium service.
http://www.itv.com/presscentre/press...ption-offering
sky will be different since they already charge subscriptions and boxsets are part of the package.”
Maybe they could try offering their catch up programming in HD?
What is it with David Walliams and Robby Williams on absolutely everything this Christmas,
Think most people have seen enough of them for a few years now,but unfortunately more of them to come. Seems like very lazy bookings all round,or is nobody else available.Sick of the sight of both of them.
Think most people have seen enough of them for a few years now,but unfortunately more of them to come. Seems like very lazy bookings all round,or is nobody else available.Sick of the sight of both of them.
Originally Posted by James J:
“Hassaan I can't believe you're back!!!! This is fantastic!!!”
“Hassaan I can't believe you're back!!!! This is fantastic!!!
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Originally Posted by Dancc:
“That was quick! Great stuff, welcome back.
Thanks also for all the data you've - indirectly - been providing. We'd have sod all to talk about were it not for yourself and others who take the time to post them up.”
“That was quick! Great stuff, welcome back.
Thanks also for all the data you've - indirectly - been providing. We'd have sod all to talk about were it not for yourself and others who take the time to post them up.
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Originally Posted by cylon6:
“YESSSSSSS! Welcome back Hassaan!👏👏👏👏👏👏”
“YESSSSSSS! Welcome back Hassaan!👏👏👏👏👏👏”
Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“Fantastic. Great to have you back”
“Fantastic. Great to have you back
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Thanks guys. It's greatly appreciated. I've closely followed the thread since I left and always felt I'd left a huge hole.
Originally Posted by sunbeam007:
“We've never 'met' but thanks for the ratings and welcome back.
And if you have the age demos for Prince Philip and BBCMA from last night, I'll do one of those heart things with my hands.”
“We've never 'met' but thanks for the ratings and welcome back.
And if you have the age demos for Prince Philip and BBCMA from last night, I'll do one of those heart things with my hands.”
I haven't got that information, unfortunately.
Originally Posted by northlad:
“What is it with David Walliams and Robby Williams on absolutely everything this Christmas,
Think most people have seen enough of them for a few years now,but unfortunately more of them to come. Seems like very lazy bookings all round,or is nobody else available.Sick of the sight of both of them.”
“What is it with David Walliams and Robby Williams on absolutely everything this Christmas,
Think most people have seen enough of them for a few years now,but unfortunately more of them to come. Seems like very lazy bookings all round,or is nobody else available.Sick of the sight of both of them.”
To be fair, although you might not like them, there are plenty of others that do. David's definitely got a busy few weeks ahead of him and Robbie's made quite a few appearances but 'absolutely everything' is a bit of an exaggeration I think.
Originally Posted by northlad:
“What is it with David Walliams and Robby Williams on absolutely everything this Christmas,”
“What is it with David Walliams and Robby Williams on absolutely everything this Christmas,”
You don't think that's just a little bit of an exaggeration there? 24 hour, 100 channel TV, and all that?
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Hmm, Eubank Jr's fights were not all that popular when shown FTA on C5.
I think the fight against Blackwell in March was the highest rated (1.5m) but that was as much down to Blackwell as anything.
In any case, boxing is pretty screwed if even ITV are going down the PPV route. A crying shame for the sport.”
“Hmm, Eubank Jr's fights were not all that popular when shown FTA on C5.
I think the fight against Blackwell in March was the highest rated (1.5m) but that was as much down to Blackwell as anything.
In any case, boxing is pretty screwed if even ITV are going down the PPV route. A crying shame for the sport.”
The thing that annoys me and also makes me slightly sad is how the press release boasts about how so many people watched Eubank's fights back in the 90s, yet there won't even be a million people who'll be paying to watch this fight live, and I don't blame them.
Originally Posted by Hassaan13:
“I'm b-b-back! Thanks to the mods for giving me another chance.
As for last night's ratings, poor for the BBC Music Awards, but solid for the Prince Philip doc on ITV.”
“I'm b-b-back! Thanks to the mods for giving me another chance.
As for last night's ratings, poor for the BBC Music Awards, but solid for the Prince Philip doc on ITV.”
Can Samuel return as well?
Originally Posted by Markynotts:
“Maybe they could try offering their catch up programming in HD?”
“Maybe they could try offering their catch up programming in HD?”
ITV downloads in HD on sky. It has done for a year or two.
@Hassan No worries, I'll guesstimate it, cheers.
Originally Posted by sunbeam007:
“ITV downloads in HD on sky. It has done for a year or two.
@Hassan No worries, I'll guesstimate it, cheers.”
“ITV downloads in HD on sky. It has done for a year or two.
@Hassan No worries, I'll guesstimate it, cheers.”
Thats good to know. I don't have Sky so hopefully ITV will consider its other viewers who use Freeview/Youview
Following Mark Austin's exit, Mary Nightingale is to become the sole anchor of ITV Evening News from January.
Last Years Soap ratings
Coronation Street :
6.97m/32.9% watched at 7.30pm (+1 125k/0.6%)
6.67m/30.0% returned at 8.30pm (+1 125k/0.6%)
EastEnders 6.17m (28.3%)
Emmerdale 6.06m (30.9%) at 7pm on ITV and 110k (0.5%)
Coronation Street :
6.97m/32.9% watched at 7.30pm (+1 125k/0.6%)
6.67m/30.0% returned at 8.30pm (+1 125k/0.6%)
EastEnders 6.17m (28.3%)
Emmerdale 6.06m (30.9%) at 7pm on ITV and 110k (0.5%)
Originally Posted by Hassaan13:
“I'm b-b-back! Thanks to the mods for giving me another chance.
As for last night's ratings, poor for the BBC Music Awards, but solid for the Prince Philip doc on ITV.”
“I'm b-b-back! Thanks to the mods for giving me another chance.
As for last night's ratings, poor for the BBC Music Awards, but solid for the Prince Philip doc on ITV.”
Welcome back Hassaan
the data you provide makes for interesting reading and discussion.
I didn't think the BBC Music Awards would do much last night, it wasn't a bad show though, I just think it needs more of a pull and USP to grab more casual viewers.
Originally Posted by spursboy68:
“Following Mark Austin's exit, Mary Nightingale is to become the sole anchor of ITV Evening News from January.”
“Following Mark Austin's exit, Mary Nightingale is to become the sole anchor of ITV Evening News from January.”
Cost-cutting measure I'm guessing, since double-headed presentation is the only strength of the ITV Evening News (IMHO).
Originally Posted by sunbeam007:
“ITV downloads in HD on sky. It has done for a year or two.
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“ITV downloads in HD on sky. It has done for a year or two.
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So ITV are charging £4 a month for what Sky subscribers get in their subscription and still no HD?
Hope they don't start putting ads on ITV Hub on Sky.
Welcome back Hassaan, I wasn't on the forum when you posted previously but your big lists are much appreciated!
And you can finally post in the prediction league all by yourself again!
And you can finally post in the prediction league all by yourself again!
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