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The Ratings Thread (Part 68)
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Jonwo
16-12-2016
Originally Posted by Baz_James:
“Why? Do you know something we don't? Looks like far too high budget with those prizes!”

Sunbeam probably thinks it'll become an ITV show along with the return of Wish You Were Here, The Price is Right etc
H of De Vil
16-12-2016
Haassan are you going to be able to post all day ratings during the main Christmas period (Xmas Eve, Day and Boxing Day)? It would great if we are able to get the full schedules (or most) if possible. It would be very much appreciated.
H of De Vil
16-12-2016
Btw, is BBC1 trailing the films they have this Christmas. A seperate film trailer? If not, I wonder if that will start this weekend.
iaindb
16-12-2016
Originally Posted by Score:
“So, weekends schedules for 7th/8th January look like:

Saturday
17:40 - Celebrity Mastermind
18:10 - Pointless Celebrities
19:00 - Let it Shine
20:25 - Casualty
21:15 - Taboo
22:15 - BBC News

18:00 - You've Been Framed
19:00 - Ninja Warrior UK
20:00 - The Voice UK
21:35 - Through The Keyhole
22:30 - ITV News

Sunday
18:30 - Countryfile
19:30 - Antiques Roadshow
20:30 - Still Open All Hours
21:00 - Sherlock
22:30 - BBC News

17:30 - Unbelievable Moments Caught on Camera
18:30 - Dance Dance Dance
20:00 - Endeavour
22:00 - ITV News”

Disappointed that BBC1 aren't meeting Endeavour at the junction. If Sherlock's not sitable for screening before the 9 o'clock watershed then cut it so it is. (With these things you only need to cut one or two unsavoury images to get a lighter certificate.) The original schedule of
7.00 Countryfile
8.00 Open All Hours
8.30 Sherlock
was much better.

I suppose BBC1's thinking is not to give DDD a head start on Countryfile, but they needn't worry. I've read the blurb for DDD and it's got flop written all over it. ITV are rubbish at these type of derivative programmes and there's only room for ONE dance programme on TV. They've been any number of dance shows on TV since Strictly started and they've all flopped. Apart from Let's Dance For Comic Relief which was a big pile of crap that got lucky thanks to Robert Webb. And, judging from the blurb, DDD is so similar to Let's Dance, the BBC should seriously consider suing for copyright.

If BBC1 wants to meet DDD at the junction and have Sherlock at 9 o'clock they should have gone with:
6.30 Antiques Roadshow
7.30 Open All Hours
8.00 Countryfile
9.00 Sherlock

They may be looking for Countryfile to give Roadshow a big lead-in and Roadshow to hold the audience passed the start of Endeavour. But Roadshow is a weak spot in BBC1's Sunday schedule as was so clearly demonstrated when Planet Earth took over the slot and doubled the audience.

edit: Not convinced Let It Shine is going to do anything either. Sounds rubbish. And we know how BBC1 make a hash of most of their light entertainment programmes. Would love to see The Voice bomb as well. I am totally mystified by how such a bad programme manages to rate so highly at least at the start. I can only put it down to a magnificent piece of cross-promotional hype by the BBC. The fact that the ratings plummet so far in the later stages of the programme prove how bad a format it is.
H of De Vil
16-12-2016
Antiques Roadshow weak? The minute its in a BBC1 Sunday schedule older viewers flock to it.

It might be getting less viewers than Planet Earth, but its still capable of 6m. Enough to dent Endeavour and push it under 5m.

The BBC want a strong schedule, but they also want to make sure they continue to dominate Sunday's. I think Poldark loosing the 9pm slot win to Victoria hurt them badly. The next series will move to Spring.
Jonwo
16-12-2016
Endeavour consolidates well and I imagine the overseas sales are strong enough for ITV to keep it going
Baz_James
16-12-2016
Originally Posted by iaindb:
“If Sherlock's not sitable for screening before the 9 o'clock watershed then cut it so it is. (With these things you only need to cut one or two unsavoury images to get a lighter certificate.)”

Cut Sherlock? Are you mad? Would you flatten the top of a Faberge egg to get it into a shoebox? Trim a Picasso to fit it over your mantelpiece?
iaindb
16-12-2016
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iaindb
16-12-2016
Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“Antiques Roadshow weak? .”

30th October: Antiques Roadshow 5.8m
6th November: Planet Earth 12.26m
Call The Midwife: 9.5m+

Weak! Weak! Weak! Weak! Weak!

Originally Posted by Baz_James:
“Cut Sherlock? Are you mad? Would you flatten the top of a Faberge egg to get it into a shoebox? Trim a Picasso to fit it over your mantelpiece?”

BBC1 risk Sherlock having his ratings dented by giving Endeavour a 1 hour head start.
cylon6
16-12-2016
Originally Posted by sunbeam007:
“Oh yeah, if you want a peek at what we might be talking about in 12 months time...

http://www.nbc.com/the-wall?nbc=1”

NBC's The Wall ripping off The Price Is Right's Plinko game?

https://youtu.be/ghLy9MoKljU
iaindb
16-12-2016
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“NBC's The Wall ripping off The Price Is Right's Plinko game?

https://youtu.be/ghLy9MoKljU”

Which is great as a 5 minute segment in a half-hour game show, but I'm not sure you would want to watch it for the whole of the programme.
Baz_James
17-12-2016
Originally Posted by iaindb:
“
BBC1 risk Sherlock having his ratings dented by giving Endeavour a 1 hour head start.”

It's the BBC. It's not about ratings, remember!
cylon6
17-12-2016
Originally Posted by Baz_James:
“It's the BBC. It's not about ratings, remember!”

It is on Saturday and Sunday. Twas ever thus.
sunbeam007
17-12-2016
Originally Posted by Baz_James:
“Why? Do you know something we don't? Looks like far too high budget with those prizes!”

In comparison to you, lots and lots.
We will have to see if it succeeds, I'd expect it not to but its Executive Producer is giving it a bit more of a chance. As for the prizes, I would think they'd be modified.

Originally Posted by Jonwo:
“Sunbeam probably thinks it'll become an ITV show along with the return of Wish You Were Here, The Price is Right etc”

Well....

Originally Posted by cylon6:
“NBC's The Wall ripping off The Price Is Right's Plinko game?

https://youtu.be/ghLy9MoKljU”

Come on down.
cylon6
17-12-2016
Originally Posted by iaindb:
“Which is great as a 5 minute segment in a half-hour game show, but I'm not sure you would want to watch it for the whole of the programme.”

Tipping Point manages a version of it.

Just looks like a glorified Tipping Point to me. It would be ITV buying a similar format to one they already own. Would be crazy to do that! Mind you they bought The Voice so....
Baz_James
17-12-2016
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“NBC's The Wall ripping off The Price Is Right's Plinko game?

https://youtu.be/ghLy9MoKljU”

I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that. Tipping Point, on the other hand .... ?
cylon6
17-12-2016
Originally Posted by Baz_James:
“I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that. Tipping Point, on the other hand .... ?”

Principle are the same. Drop counters, lands on an amount. The Wall has the added twist of the money being taken away. It's Plinko plus another bit.
iaindb
17-12-2016
Originally Posted by Baz_James:
“It's the BBC. It's not about ratings, remember!”

No, it's not ALL about ratings, but if they've got a programme capable of getting 11m+ viewers then SOCK IT TO 'EM!!

Besides Endeavour is a bit dull from where I'm sitting. Doesn't have the EVENT TV feel that Sherlock has and Inspector Morse had.
H of De Vil
17-12-2016
Originally Posted by iaindb:
“30th October: Antiques Roadshow 5.8m
6th November: Planet Earth 12.26m
Call The Midwife: 9.5m+

Weak! Weak! Weak! Weak! Weak!



BBC1 risk Sherlock having his ratings dented by giving Endeavour a 1 hour head start.”

I wouldn't call 5.8m weak. Nearly 6m is solid. That will dent Endeavour, and the older viewers will watch BBC1 from CF through to the news. That is the audience Endeavor is aming for, and those viewers will already be locked in.

YBF is weak. Take Me Out is weak, even most BBC dramas are weaker than AR.
iaindb
17-12-2016
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“Tipping Point manages a version of it.

Just looks like a glorified Tipping Point to me. It would be ITV buying a similar format to one they already own. Would be crazy to do that! Mind you they bought The Voice so....”

Tipping Point does great in daytime but it's hardly ratings gold when they put it out in primetime. (Shame! Deserves to get double the audience at least.)
cylon6
17-12-2016
Originally Posted by iaindb:
“Disappointed that BBC1 aren't meeting Endeavour at the junction. If Sherlock's not sitable for screening before the 9 o'clock watershed then cut it so it is.”

Sherlock has been on at 8.30pm several times. The second episode of series one was the first time it happened. Second series started after 8pm on New Year's Day in 2012 as well.
cylon6
17-12-2016
Originally Posted by iaindb:
“Tipping Point does great in daytime but it's hardly ratings gold when they put it out in primetime. (Shame! Deserves to get double the audience at least.)”

Very true. That's why I look at The Wall and think ITV should avoid it, all broadcasters should. I will probably wrong but it looks like it won't have much longevity to me.
iaindb
17-12-2016
Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“I wouldn't call 5.8m weak. Nearly 6m is solid. That will dent Endeavour, and the older viewers will watch BBC1 from CF through to the news. That is the audience Endeavor is aming for, and those viewers will already be locked in.

YBF is weak. Take Me Out is weak, even most BBC dramas are weaker than AR.”

I'm going to have to repeat myself, amn't I?

30th October: Antiques Roadshow 5.8m
6th November: Planet Earth 12.26m
Call The Midwife: 9.5m+

Sunday night is the most watched night of the week and Midwife and Planet Earth show just how many viewers there are to be netted. (So, come to that, does Strictly). Roadshow's ratings look great until you compare it with other programmes in the same slot and now I'm no longer impressed.
iaindb
17-12-2016
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“Sherlock has been on at 8.30pm several times. The second episode of series one was the first time it happened. Second series started after 8pm on New Year's Day in 2012 as well.”

The New Year's Day 2017 episode is scheduled for 8.30 and episode 2 was in the original schedule so it may just be this particular episode has an gruesome/explicit shot that can't be shown before 9pm.

Or they just want to start Countryfile at the same time of Dance and didn't have a suitable half-hour programme to fill the gap that moving Countryfile earlier created. Thus they brought in Roadshow pushing SOAH and Sherlock half an hour later.
iaindb
17-12-2016
The more I read the blurb for Dance Dance Dance they more I feel it's going to go the same way as Your Face Sounds Familiar.
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