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Oh the irony of that schedule!
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Auditions were fine, then for the lives the ratings went down. Needs to be sorted out for next year. There is little doubt that there will be a further decline in audience for the whole show and the live shows in particular next year and again the year after that both in actual numbers and audience share, and if more papers turn against it, treating it as laughing stock rather than event, as a result it could be become an extreme embarrassment for everyone concerned. I really don't think anyone stands to benefit from failing to take the opportunity to give it a rest for a year or two in 2017 and then re-assess the demand with a rather more refreshed talent pool. |
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And have you any suggestions as to how that might be accomplished? The simple truth is that the live shows are basically disposable. All the interest is in the few weeks that the worst singers get to strut their stuff, then seeing who gets through. After that, the grinding down to the final is just a turgid, repetitive, and predictable karaoke competition. Some people will return to see who wins on the final weekend but I don't see any way to persuade them that they should sit through the entire competition now.
There is little doubt that there will be a further decline in audience for the whole show and the live shows in particular next year and again the year after that both in actual numbers and audience share, and if more papers turn against it, treating it as laughing stock rather than event, as a result it could be become an extreme embarrassment for everyone concerned. I really don't think anyone stands to benefit from failing to take the opportunity to give it a rest for a year or two in 2017 and then re-assess the demand with a rather more refreshed talent pool. |
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That's a solid figure for The Apprentice. Really enjoyed the Series.
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Have you got the series averages for similar shows like BGT and/or SCD, IAC and DoI?
I'm a Celebrity Series 16 (2016) - 10.42m (9.87m exc. +1) Series 15 (2015) - 9.86m (9.39m exc. +1) Series 14 (2014) - 10.25m (9.77m exc. +1) Series 13 (2013) - 11.13m (10.65m exc. +1) Series 12 (2012) - 10.47m (9.98m exc. +1) Series 11 (2011) - 10.07m (9.64m exc. +1) Series 10 (2010) - 10.34m Series 9 (2009) - 9.37m Series 8 (2008) - 8.78m Series 7 (2007) - 7.34m Series 6 (2006) - 8.01m Series 5 (2005) - 9.42m Series 4 (2004) - 8.66m Series 3 (2004) - 11.02m Series 2 (2003) - 8.55m Series 1 (2002) - 7.58m Britain's Got Talent Series 1 (2007) - 8.38m Series 2 (2008) - 10.21m Series 3 (2009) - 13.36m Series 4 (2010) - 11.05m Series 5 (2011) - 10.52m (inc +1: 10.92m) Series 6 (2012) - 10.18m (inc +1: 10.64m) Series 7 (2013) - 9.86m (inc +1: 10.42m) Series 8 (2014) - 9.25m (inc +1: 9.82m) Series 9 (2015) - 9.31m (inc +1: 9.92m) Series 10 (2016) - 9.02m (inc +1: 9.44m) |
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Strictly's averages (up to semi final) Quote:
Strictly consolidated averages since 2004
Series 14 (2016) - 10.86m (10.85m inc. launch show)* Series 13 (2015) - 10.63m (10.60m inc. launch show) Series 12 (2014) - 10.25m (10.21m inc. launch show) Series 11 (2013) - 10.71m (10.67m inc. launch show) Series 10 (2012) - 10.80m (10.73m inc. launch show) Series 9 (2011) - 10.98m (10.88m inc. launch show) Series 8 (2010) - 11.23m (11.10m inc. launch show) Series 7 (2009) - 9.34m Series 6 (2008) - 9.64m (9.53m inc. launch show) Series 5 (2007) - 9.05m (8.88m inc. launch show) Series 4 (2006) - 8.55m Series 3 (2005) - 8.26m Series 2 (2004) - 8.61m Series 1 (2004) - 6.45m * may be 10.9-11m once the last few officials are released |
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Hassaan, do you have all of the officials for the 2015 BGT series? There's a few that I've not been able to find.
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And have you any suggestions as to how that might be accomplished? The simple truth is that the live shows are basically disposable. All the interest is in the few weeks that the worst singers get to strut their stuff, then seeing who gets through. After that, the grinding down to the final is just a turgid, repetitive, and predictable karaoke competition. Some people will return to see who wins on the final weekend but I don't see any way to persuade them that they should sit through the entire competition now.
There is little doubt that there will be a further decline in audience for the whole show and the live shows in particular next year and again the year after that both in actual numbers and audience share, and if more papers turn against it, treating it as laughing stock rather than event, as a result it could be become an extreme embarrassment for everyone concerned. I really don't think anyone stands to benefit from failing to take the opportunity to give it a rest for a year or two in 2017 and then re-assess the demand with a rather more refreshed talent pool. However they got back on track with the lightness of the show this year and laid some foundations down. I'd tweak the format to remove the mentoring element and would consider moving it to Tuesdays and Wednesdays (basically American Idol) but I know it won't happen. ITV need to fix the 7pm hour. Considering what CTM did to DoI, their best bet might be a suitable drama for the slot. More Durrells than Beowulf. Not only is it more likely to rate than a new LE format, it may repeat and export too. |
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Yep - would you like them exc/inc +1 or just one or the other?
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Both please.
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Auditions 1 - 10.63m / 11.25m Auditions 2 - 10.89m / 11.47m Auditions 3 - 11.31m / 11.87m Auditions 4 - 11.12m / 11.73m Auditions 5 - 11.02m / 11.64m Auditions 6 - 10.96m / 11.55m Auditions 7 - 8.98m / 9.35m Semi Final 1: 9.78m / 10.18m SF1 Results : 7.39m / 7.74m Semi Final 2: 8.92m / 9.34m SF2 Results : 7.30m / 7.60m Semi Final 3: 9.18m / 9.48m SF3 Results : 7.76m / 8.09m Semi Final 4: 8.90m / 9.26m SF4 Results : 7.87m / 8.17m Semi Final 5: 9.18m / 9.51m SF5 Results : 7.59m / 7.91m Final: 12.39m / 12.75m Code:
Auditions 1: 9.58m (43.2%) / 10.13m (45.7%) Auditions 2: 9.54m (44.1%) / 10.08m (46.6%) Auditions 3: 9.95m (46.3%) / 10.46m (48.7%) Auditions 4: 9.62m (45.0%) / 10.13m (47.4%) Auditions 5: 9.61m (45.1%) / 10.19m (47.8%) Auditions 6: 9.65m (47.0%) / 10.17m (49.5%) Auditions 7: 7.41m (35.2%) / 7.71m (36.6%) Semi Final 1: 8.56m (37.8%) / 8.93m (39.4%) SF1 Results : 6.58m (28.6%) / 6.90m (30.0%) Semi Final 2: 7.80m (36.8%) / 8.19m (38.6%) SF2 Results : 6.56m (31.2%) / 6.85m (32.6%) Semi Final 3: 8.20m (38.8%) / 8.47m (40.1%) SF3 Results : 6.93m (31.7%) / 7.25m (33.2%) Semi Final 4: 7.77m (37.3%) / 8.10m (38.9%) SF4 Results : 7.27m (34.5%) / 7.56m (35.9%) Semi Final 5: 8.03m (39.3%) / 8.33m (40.8%) SF5 Results : 6.78m (32.1%) / 7.10m (33.6%) Final: 11.36m (46.6%) / 11.71m (48.0%) SERIES AVERAGE: 8.40m (38.9%) / 8.79m (40.7%) Auditions Average: 9.34m (43.7%) / 9.84m (46.0%) SF Per Average: 8.07m (38.0%) / 8.40m (39.6%) SF Res Average: 6.82m (31.6%) / 7.13m (33.1%) All Live Shows Average: 7.80m (35.9%) / 8.12m (37.4%) |
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Lewie should have the SCD figures.
I'm a Celebrity Series 16 (2016) - 10.42m (9.87m exc. +1) Series 15 (2015) - 9.86m (9.39m exc. +1) Series 14 (2014) - 10.25m (9.77m exc. +1) Series 13 (2013) - 11.13m (10.65m exc. +1) Series 12 (2012) - 10.47m (9.98m exc. +1) Series 11 (2011) - 10.07m (9.64m exc. +1) Series 10 (2010) - 10.34m Series 9 (2009) - 9.37m Series 8 (2008) - 8.78m Series 7 (2007) - 7.34m Series 6 (2006) - 8.01m Series 5 (2005) - 9.42m Series 4 (2004) - 8.66m Series 3 (2004) - 11.02m Series 2 (2003) - 8.55m Series 1 (2002) - 7.58m Britain's Got Talent Series 1 (2007) - 8.38m Series 2 (2008) - 10.21m Series 3 (2009) - 13.36m Series 4 (2010) - 11.05m Series 5 (2011) - 10.52m (inc +1: 10.92m) Series 6 (2012) - 10.18m (inc +1: 10.64m) Series 7 (2013) - 9.86m (inc +1: 10.42m) Series 8 (2014) - 9.25m (inc +1: 9.82m) Series 9 (2015) - 9.31m (inc +1: 9.92m) Series 10 (2016) - 9.02m (inc +1: 9.44m) BGT 9.6m IAC 9.5m XF 9.8m. SCD 9.6m |
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Thanks. So, if my phone calculator is right (that was hard work!),
BGT 9.6m IAC 9.5m XF 9.8m. |
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The Apprentice timeshifts incredibly well. It's not in the same league as the other major reality shows, but it's been going for over 10 years and the final rating less than 1m behind TXF which is supposed to be one of the leading Saturday night LE shows?
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I didn't even mention Crap Factor which no one watches.
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Presumably that's a figure you've calculated across all series? If so, it's interesting to see how close they are across all series, while their series averages this year vary quite a lot.
BGT 9.6m IAC 9.5m XF 9.8m. SCD 9.6m All very close though of course not currently close with XF way below the others now. In total viewership terms XF would be way ahead since it has had far more episodes and minutes of TV time. The second sentence may go some way to explaining the first sentence. |
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It got a series average of 7.6m this year. That's not "no one".
Meanwhile EE and Emmerdale are around the 7m mark for their highs. Shows that beat 7.6m in the consolidated week: SCD, IAC, Corrie and PE2. Only Corrie remains on air now. Meanwhile we say if LIS and TVUK can get 6m like MM then they'll be very happy and Dance³ will be pleased with 4m. It's a funny old world, Saint. |
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I'm guessing that BARB won't update next Monday?
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I didn't even mention Crap Factor which no one watches.
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I didn't even mention Crap Factor which no one watches.
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I didn't even mention Crap Factor which no one watches.
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Strictly's averages (up to semi final)
BGT 2016 average - 9.02m (9.43m inc. +1) Hassaan, do you have all of the officials for the 2015 BGT series? There's a few that I've not been able to find. All the pure talent shows seem to have suffered this year, I wonder if that'll be a continued trend into 2017- ITV will certainly be hoping it's not |
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Looks like Stricltly will have its highest series average since 2010 and the second highest rating series overall- It's good for any show to gain year on year, but SCD endures really well (As does IAC)
All the pure talent shows seem to have suffered this year, I wonder if that'll be a continued trend into 2017- ITV will certainly be hoping it's not |
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While we're at it, here are some pretty graphs showing the three talent shows since 2012, by stage. ITV excludes +1 for fairness. BGT is super-strong, it's not "suffering"...it's back in half-term week this May/June.
Auditions - https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C0DbVmrXAAE3YAd.jpg Live shows (excluding final) - https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C0DbU7nXEAAlYtB.jpg Finals - https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C0DbWV1XcAAL9H8.jpg |
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Geez you've been on top form today. First defending The Apprentice is "disgraceful" then this!
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