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Old 21-12-2016, 18:39
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True, but my point it was strangled at birth, let's say Apprentice as an example, or The Missing, it's built up an audience then goes against IACGMOOH the viewers chooses which one to watch, and will catch up on the other as they know it and invested time on it. Yes WAF it's easy to catch up, but with one episode at Christmas before it gad no locality. I like it but agree some bits of it are unfunny and once you had the joke once, like the advert for the album, then that's it.
The fact only 3.8m tuned in on Christmas Eve (even if Christmas Eve/Day ratings have been in decline) suggests there wasn't much interest in it in the first place. Compare that to the 10.3m (12.5m consolidated) that tuned into the first Come Fly With Me. Admittedly that was on Christmas Day but I think it would still have been between 8-10m elsewhere.
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Old 21-12-2016, 19:07
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I took off many of the channels the drama would be shown on to make it far less BBC Vs ITV, and in order of the Radio Times choice of the top 17 dramas in 17.
Surprised not to see the Twin Peaks revival in that list. Must be the new drama I'm looking forward to most.
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Old 21-12-2016, 19:23
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Walliams and Friends is rating worse than Goodnight Sweetheart, which viewers wanted back but the BBC did not do apparently as it did not rate well enough. So on that basis it has to be gone, surely.
You're being logical again!
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Old 21-12-2016, 19:57
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BBC Strictly Press (@bbcstrictlyPR) tweeted at 11:43 a.m. on Wed, Dec 21, 2016:
Breaking...@bbcstrictly has had its best series EVER! The series average is over 11m and we've had a record audience share too. Thank you 💃✨ https://t.co/ZzUcPASBCk
Wow! That is amazing. I would agree. I have loved this season of BBC Strictly. The cast...the pros...the band...Claude...the Judges...the whole production has been awesome. Thank you BBC for providing me with so much enjoyment and pleasure.
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Old 21-12-2016, 20:02
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Riff Offs, Mash-Ups, solo showdowns and group harmonies are coming to BBC One in 2017, as a brand new Saturday night music entertainment show Pitch Battle (w/t) searches the nation to find Britain’s best singing group, it was announced today.

Commissioned from Tuesday's Child, Pitch Battle (w/t) is a contemporary competition that will feature the best singing groups from across the UK and from all musical styles: pop, rock, folk and gospel to a capella groups and even fishermen’s choirs.

Over the course of five hour-long, heat episodes, they'll compete head-to-head over a series of choral challenges including Pitch Perfect inspired Riff Offs, a soloists challenge and an a capella round. The groups will need to pull out-all-the-stops in this no-chords-barred, sing or be sung-off tournament to win the live final.

www.bbc/co.uk/mediacentre
Sounds quality. Looking forward to it already. Is Gareth fronting it?
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Old 21-12-2016, 20:09
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Press reports suggesting Walliams and Friend will not be recommissioned
Not surprised. Barring the odd sketch, it was rubbish. Not worthy of a premier slot on BBC One.
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Old 21-12-2016, 20:10
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Sounds quality. Looking forward to it already. Is Gareth fronting it?
Are you looking forward to Dance, Dance, Dance?
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Old 21-12-2016, 20:11
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17:45 - Film: Santa Claus: the Movie (Premiere): 15.60m (Shown at 15:10-16:55 in Scotland)
19:30 - 'Allo 'Allo!: 17.05m
20:00 - Last of the Summer Wine: 17.10m

ITV
16:05 - 3-2-1 Christmas Special: 5.80m
17:05 - News
17:15 - The Cannon and Ball Show: 7.40m
18:15 - Bobby in Wonderland: 5.70m
19:05 - Watching Special: 6.00m
20:05 - Film: Sherlock Holmes: The Sign of Four (Premiere): 5.40m

Monday 26 December 1988:

BBC1
19:20 - Civvy Street: an EastEnders Special 7.00m
20:20 - Film: Beverly Hills Cop (Premiere): 12.85m
22:05 - The Lenny Henry Special: 8.30m
22:45 - News
22:55 - Bruce and Ronnie in the Corbett and Forsyth Show Below 5.20m

ITV
15:40 - Film: Octopussy (R): 10.20m
(17:00 - News and Sport)
18:15 - Strike It Lucky: 12.30m
19:00 - The Krypton Factor Grand Final: 12.65m
19:30 - Coronation Street: 15.60m
We talked about Santa Claus the other day but it was certainly big news that Christmas for me as not only was it premiered on BBC1, it was also our Christmas film in school. That was the series, of course, where Allo Allo was 26 episodes long so they could flog it abroad easier, but seemingly it didn't work out as the following series were of a more conventional length. The TV Times for that year is very strange, because the film guide says that The Sign of Four is not the film but a repeat of the Granada series with Jeremy Brett, and then on the programme pages there's an apology that is actually is the film after all. Dunno what happened there.

Civvy Street opposite Corrie hardly seems the most intelligent scheduling. As Brucie mentioned in his book, they were quite excited about doing Bruce and Ronnie because they'd done the Royal Variety together, to huge acclaim, and that led to this special, but while they were rehearsing it the producer Marcus Mortimer came into the rehearsal room in tears and said "I've just seen the schedule and we're on at eleven o'clock", which rather put a dampener on things.

With Hilarious Consequences was notable as Denis Norden's only clipboard show for Thames, to mark their twentieth anniversary. That was the last episode of 321, while Cannon and Ball was their first show for Yorkshire after they'd been dropped by LWT. Not that it made any difference to the audience, because they were still on ITV and obviously LWT had to show them. Says much about the rest of the output it was the highest rated thing that night.

That Paul O'Grady factual piece was not deserving of such a low rating. It might have been niche, but I suspect had it been on another night or promoted it would have done better.
I think we're going to have to stop excusing poor promotion for ITV shows failing because this is the one time of the year where everyone buys TV guides, forget what day it is and normal plans go out of the window. So there should be no excuse for shows to be wanting for promotion, because more people are reading TV guides than ever before.

The other point is that sometimes channels don't promote things because they're a bit embarrassed by them and just want to get them out as quietly as possible without too many people noticing.
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Old 21-12-2016, 20:13
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Sky Q taking a bashing on Watchdog,
Hope you're not watching Derek
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Old 21-12-2016, 20:14
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That Strictly PR account is wrong, the most watched series was the 2010 series, that had an (if I remember rightly) 11.2m average.

But it is on course to be the 3rd most watched series and highest rated in 4 years.
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Old 21-12-2016, 20:22
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Sky Q taking a bashing on Watchdog,
Hope you're not watching Derek
Yes, pretty terrible, not working, won't reboot, or takes 40 minutes, and poor customer service or engineering that can't correct.
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Old 21-12-2016, 20:24
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Are you looking forward to Dance, Dance, Dance?
Is it a new series coming to the BBC?
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Old 21-12-2016, 20:26
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The fact only 3.8m tuned in on Christmas Eve (even if Christmas Eve/Day ratings have been in decline) suggests there wasn't much interest in it in the first place. Compare that to the 10.3m (12.5m consolidated) that tuned into the first Come Fly With Me. Admittedly that was on Christmas Day but I think it would still have been between 8-10m elsewhere.
Radio Times reported, The show premiered with a one-off special last Christmas, featuring guest star Joanna Lumley, and drew in massive audiences of 6 million
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Old 21-12-2016, 20:27
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Is it a new series coming to the BBC?
Does it sound like a show that the BBC would show? Does it really matter if it is on the BBC or not?
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Old 21-12-2016, 20:27
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Is it a new series coming to the BBC?
http://www.itv.com/news/2016-07-22/s...-new-itv-show/

Any similarity to Strictly is purely coincidental.
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Old 21-12-2016, 20:28
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Radio Times reported, The show premiered with a one-off special last Christmas, featuring guest star Joanna Lumley, and drew in massive audiences of 6 million
It didn't get 6 million though. In any case, it wasn't a "massive'" audience.
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Old 21-12-2016, 20:29
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It didn't get 6 million though. In any case, it wasn't a "massive'" audience.
That's what Radio Times reports are rarely wrong. That's a direct copy and paste of the RT article if you wish to contact them, and tell them they were wrong.

Of course Six million isn't massive for Walliams and Freind, but according to you is for X Factor. !
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Old 21-12-2016, 20:31
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That's what Radio Timrs reports are rarely wrong.
Another user on a previous page said it got 3.83m on its first showing and consolidated to less than 5.4m. That's certainly not 6m is it?

EDIT: I've never defended X Factor's woeful ratings once this year, so you might want to factcheck that one.
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Old 21-12-2016, 20:33
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Another user on a previous page said it got 3.83m on its first showing and consolidated to less than 5.4m. That's certainly not 6m is it?
The article


http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2016-...ams-and-friend

Radio Times contact us, let them know that you feel they are wrong.

http://www.radiotimes.com/blog/2011-05-09/contact-us
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Old 21-12-2016, 20:35
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Another user on a previous page said it got 3.83m on its first showing and consolidated to less than 5.4m. That's certainly not 6m is it?

EDIT: I've never defended X Factor's woeful ratings once this year, so you might want to factcheck that one.
Write to Radio Times to tell them you think they are wrong.
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Old 21-12-2016, 20:38
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That's what Radio Times reports are rarely wrong. That's a direct copy and paste of the RT article if you wish to contact them, and tell them they were wrong.

Of course Six million isn't massive for Walliams and Freind, but according to you is for X Factor. !
3.8m is the overnight figure. That's the one I'm quoting. That doesn't mean my figure was wrong just because Radio Times mentioned an accumulated figure. Hence I mentioned the 10.3m figure for Come Fly With Me, which was also an overnight figure.
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Old 21-12-2016, 20:38
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Write to Radio Times to tell them you think they are wrong.
I was correcting you, not just the Radio Times. You quoted the RT twice, despite being told already it was incorrect on the previous page. Why don't you just accept you were wrong to use it instead of blaming the RT?

I was also correcting you about your incorrect X Factor claim.
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Old 21-12-2016, 20:39
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http://www.itv.com/news/2016-07-22/s...-new-itv-show/

Any similarity to Strictly is purely coincidental.
What's wrong with any similarities to Strictly? Surely taking inspiration from something that's very successful is not an issue?

As you enjoy SCD, you'll surely enjoy something similar?
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Old 21-12-2016, 20:44
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http://www.itv.com/news/2016-07-22/s...-new-itv-show/

Any similarity to Strictly is purely coincidental.
What's wrong with that? If anything it's more Let's Dance than Strictly, and it's not like this sort of show originated from either of those.
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Old 21-12-2016, 20:44
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http://www.itv.com/news/2016-07-22/s...-new-itv-show/

Any similarity to Strictly is purely coincidental.
I'm not interested in an ITV copy-cat show. The tone won't be BBC will it. It sounds like a dance version of The X Factor.
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