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The Ratings Thread (Part 68)
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kwynne42
23-08-2016
Originally Posted by Salv*:
“Well, 500 Questions flopped a bit then, didn't it?”

Well if its been beaten by the poor endlessly messed about Ripper Street then yes it did heh
Dancc
23-08-2016
Channel 4's Monday night lineup was a real damp squib to put it mildly.

First Dates is drafted in as of next week. But how long it will stay there is anybody's guess. It's allocated slots at random I think based on what needs filling on any given week.
Dancc
23-08-2016
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“Those were the points when it sparked into life.”

Plus the end credits, they were excellent I thought.
RickLopez
23-08-2016
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Ricky Norwood I'm guessing since you knew the EE star that Strictly's signed up. Which means you'd never heard of Sam Fox, Christopher Biggins or James Whale. Some going to not know who any of those are!”

Wow, no need to be aggressive!

If you are really that interested, the celebrity I remembered was Christopher Biggins. I only started watching EastEnders this year so after looking him up I wouldn't have know Ricky Norwood, he left in 2015. I now recognize Sam Fox, she did the failure Brits with Mick Fleetwood, and I don't know who James Whale is.

So that's two out of how many? I know you have to defend everything Channel 5 does, but in my opinion Strictly has a much higher number of recognizable celebrities than CBB, partly because it get 10 times the ratings and also because it isn't run twice a year so the pool of "celebrities" runs out.
RickLopez
23-08-2016
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Channel 4's Monday night lineup was a real damp squib to put it mildly.

First Dates is drafted in as of next week. But how long it will stay there is anybody's guess. It's allocated slots at random I think based on what needs filling on any given week.”

Is there a reason they can't run it at 9pm on a weekday, surely it would get a higher audience instead of channel hopping at a later slot?
Mike Teevee
23-08-2016
Bit surprised anybody thought 500 Questions would do well, nothing about the show stood out as interesting. Giles Coren is a nice bloke, but I think only his sister has a handle on how to be quippy quizmaster.

edit: Little sis had the last laugh

21 Only Connect BBC2 Inc HD 20:30 2170000
22 500 Questions ITV 21:00 2144000


Anyhoo....

Code:
rank	programme	channel	time	figure
1	Coronation Street	ITV	19:30	6259000
2	EastEnders	BBC1 Inc HD	20:00	5935000
3	Emmerdale	ITV	19:00	5590000
4	Coronation Street	ITV	20:30	5538000
5	Regional News and Weather	BBC1 Inc HD	18:30	5499000
6	BBC News at Six	BBC1 Inc HD	18:00	4874000
7	Eat Well for Less?	BBC1 Inc HD	20:30	4092000
8	BBC News at Ten	BBC1 Inc HD	22:00	4051000
9	The One Show	BBC1 Inc HD	19:00	3612000
10	Regional News and Weather	BBC1 Inc HD	22:30	3525000
11	Mrs Brown's Boys	BBC1 Inc HD	21:30	3235000
12	Ripper Street	BBC2 Inc HD	21:00	2859000
13	ITV Evening News	ITV	18:30	2718000
14	Living with Cuts: Austerity Town - Panorama	BBC1 Inc HD	19:30	2713000
15	Barging Round Britain with John Sergeant	ITV	20:00	2682000
16	BBC News at One	BBC1 Inc HD	13:00	2664000
17	University Challenge	BBC2 Inc HD	20:00	2587000
18	ITV News London	ITV	18:00	2573000
19	Pointless Celebrities	BBC1 Inc HD	17:15	2498000
20	Regional News and Weather	BBC1 Inc HD	13:30	2448000
ITV does inc HD, ratings are NOT tape checked.
Markynotts
23-08-2016
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“That's only down 900,000 on the previous series premiere which aired on BBC One and up 700,000 on the finale which faced England rugby on ITV.

Held up very well for the channel switch. Great rating!”

I did wonder if the move to BBC 2 would have harmed the show. But it looks like it was fine
cylon6
23-08-2016
Originally Posted by Mike Teevee:
“Bit surprised anybody thought 500 Questions would do well, nothing about the show stood out as interesting. Giles Coren is a nice bloke, but I think only his sister has a handle on how to be quippy quizmaster.

edit: Little sis had the last laugh

21 Only Connect BBC2 Inc HD 20:30 2170000
22 500 Questions ITV 21:00 2144000


Anyhoo....

Code:
rank	programme	channel	time	figure
1	Coronation Street	ITV	19:30	6259000
2	EastEnders	BBC1 Inc HD	20:00	5935000
3	Emmerdale	ITV	19:00	5590000
4	Coronation Street	ITV	20:30	5538000
5	Regional News and Weather	BBC1 Inc HD	18:30	5499000
6	BBC News at Six	BBC1 Inc HD	18:00	4874000
7	Eat Well for Less?	BBC1 Inc HD	20:30	4092000
8	BBC News at Ten	BBC1 Inc HD	22:00	4051000
9	The One Show	BBC1 Inc HD	19:00	3612000
10	Regional News and Weather	BBC1 Inc HD	22:30	3525000
11	Mrs Brown's Boys	BBC1 Inc HD	21:30	3235000
12	Ripper Street	BBC2 Inc HD	21:00	2859000
13	ITV Evening News	ITV	18:30	2718000
14	Living with Cuts: Austerity Town - Panorama	BBC1 Inc HD	19:30	2713000
15	Barging Round Britain with John Sergeant	ITV	20:00	2682000
16	BBC News at One	BBC1 Inc HD	13:00	2664000
17	University Challenge	BBC2 Inc HD	20:00	2587000
18	ITV News London	ITV	18:00	2573000
19	Pointless Celebrities	BBC1 Inc HD	17:15	2498000
20	Regional News and Weather	BBC1 Inc HD	13:30	2448000
ITV does inc HD, ratings are NOT tape checked.”

Thanks Mike.

Giles Coren is a nice bloke when you don't read his columns or watch him in action on Twitter.

Where does Alphabetical come on the list?
Mike Teevee
23-08-2016
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“Thanks Mike.

Where does Alphabetical come on the list?”

25 Alphabetical ITV 17:00 1672000
Dancc
23-08-2016
Originally Posted by RickLopez:
“Wow, no need to be aggressive!

If you are really that interested, the celebrity I remembered was Christopher Biggins. I only started watching EastEnders this year so after looking him up I wouldn't have know Ricky Norwood, he left in 2015. I now recognize Sam Fox, she did the failure Brits with Mick Fleetwood, and I don't know who James Whale is.

So that's two out of how many? I know you have to defend everything Channel 5 does, but in my opinion Strictly has a much higher number of recognizable celebrities than CBB, partly because it get 10 times the ratings and also because it isn't run twice a year so the pool of "celebrities" runs out.”

"Wow, no need to be aggressive!" followed by a post that is 100x more aggressive.

I figured you were exaggerating about the CBB lineup and how few of them you knew, and it turns out I was right.

I look forward to Strictly getting 30m in the winter.

Originally Posted by RickLopez:
“Is there a reason they can't run it at 9pm on a weekday, surely it would get a higher audience instead of channel hopping at a later slot?”

That's what they are doing, as of next Monday. I think most of us in here think it should be airing in a fixed 9pm slot, that would be the logical thing to do but there is no logic where this particular programme is concerned !
Dancc
23-08-2016
Originally Posted by Mike Teevee:
“25 Alphabetical ITV 17:00 1672000”

Not bad.

I want to like it but they didn't do enough testing and the End Game is annoyingly difficult to win and that's a problem. Given it finishes on Friday, will we even get to see the jackpot won ?
cylon6
23-08-2016
Originally Posted by Ray Tings:
“BBC1
EastEnders: 5.94m (29.9%)
Eat Well for Less?: 4.09m (19.7%)
BBC News (10pm): 4.05m (24.6%)

BBC2
Ripper Street: 2.86m (14.1%)
University Challenge: 2.59m (13.0%)
Only Connect: 2.17m (10.5%)

BBC4
The Queen Mary: Greatest Ocean Liner: 0.93m (4.6%)
Life Story (Repeat): 0.36m (1.8%)
BBC Proms 2016: 0.21m (1.8%)

Channel 4 (exc. +1)
Naked Attraction: 0.87m (7.8%)
The Big Fat Quiz of Everything: 0.82m (4.4%)
Make My Body Better with Davina McCall: 0.76m (3.8%)

Channel 5 (exc. +1)
Celebrity Big Brother: 1.32m (6.5%)
Police Interceptors Unleashed (Repeat): 0.74m (3.7%)
Tattoo Disasters UK: 0.63m (4.2%)

E4 (exc. +1)
Hollyoaks: 0.50m (2.9%)
Made in Chelsea: South of France: 0.36m (1.8%)
Coach Trip: Road to Ibiza: 0.24m (1.3%)”

Channel 4 had a rare night to forget ratings wise. Ripper Street did well but faces Victoria next Monday then most likely Cold Feet after that. Will it hold up?

Eat Well For Less is a popular show. Does well wherever it goes.
cylon6
23-08-2016
Originally Posted by Mike Teevee:
“25 Alphabetical ITV 17:00 1672000”

Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Not bad.

I want to like it but they didn't do enough testing and the End Game is annoyingly difficult to win and that's a problem. Given it finishes on Friday, will we even get to see the jackpot won ?”

That's decent for a new quiz taking on Pointless. Enough for a return?

And when Doctors returns will Red Rock continue alongside it?
Salv*
23-08-2016
Hi Mike, have you got CBB and Naked Attraction with +1? (does the latter look better than recently?), not bad for a 10 30pm slot.
Dancc
23-08-2016
Looking at how strong the BBC was across the board last night - BBC Four even managed to beat C4 at 9pm - it could be that they are still very much on a high after the well received Olympics coverage. Viewers are very much in the habit of going straight to the BBC channels, and so there could be a bit of a lingering bias towards the BBC that should slowly correct itself in the coming days, particularly as ITV strengthens up for the autumn.

But it could be a problem for ITV in the short term - with so few viewers expected in peak for the likes of 500 Questions, Rookies and CCTV - Neighbourhood Watching, you do wonder who is going to see the trails for X Factor etc. No wonder they have resorted to buying advertising slots for Victoria on other channels.
James J
23-08-2016
Don't know if they've been seen but here are the excerpts from the Edinburgh Controller interviews which are coming up tomorrow and Thursday:

BBC - Charlotte Moore
Quote:
“Charlotte Moore emerged victorious in a battle the rest of us were unaware was going on – becoming controller of all BBC TV channels and I-Player. This new position is a huge vote of confidence in the job Moore’s been doing at BBC1, last year’s Channel of the Year at Edinburgh. As are BAFTA wins including Big Blue Live, Strictly Come Dancing and EastEnders. But it’s the biggest creative job in British television and not without its challenges. Will the new Culture Secretary Karen Bradley agree with John Whittingale’s accusation of a lack of ‘distinctiveness’?. How will Moore refresh the parts of the schedule that feel tired? Will an original entertainment format break through? In this crucial session Moore will set out her priorities.”

ITV - Kevin Lygo
Quote:
“His CV reads like a ‘Guide to Great British Television’. From TFI Friday to Jamie’s School Dinners, So Graham Norton to Men Behaving Badly, Deal or No Deal to Shameless. But what has Kevin Lygo, the industry’s most recently appointed controller, got in store for Britain’s biggest commercial channel?

Anxious not to dwell on the past, Lygo’s first ITV Edinburgh session will reveal his grand plan. He will explain how his new commissioning team and structure is gearing up to deliver his wish-list, which includes more midweek entertainment, a hit food franchise, non-scripted returners, longer runs. The former ITV Studios boss will also explain the part in-house production plays in his vision.

Lygo’s famous charisma and risk-taking approach (this was the man that both commissioned and axed Big Brother at C4), will stand him in good stead as he battles to boost ITV’s declining share. Indeed, the only Cold Feet at ITV this year will be the drama.”

Channel 4 - Jay Hunt
Quote:
“It’s been a hugely successful 12 months for Channel 4’s Chief Creative Officer, Jay Hunt. Hits including Humans, Catastrophe, Hunted, The Island, First Dates and Gogglebox have helped Channel 4 drive record revenues and left its awards cabinet bursting. What’s more, after years of steady decline, overall share in peak was up 8% in 2015 compared to 2014 figures. It’s not all been plain sailing however with the channel losing Black Mirror to Netflix – not to mention the small matter of privatisation/part-privatisation and even a move to Birmingham mooted. Five years into the role, Hunt has outlined how she changed the creative culture of the organisation and the Controller Session will be an opportunity to hear about her wishlist going forward; the impact of her ‘creative breakfasts’; the blurring of genres at C4, and how the channel can keep innovating.”

Channel 5 - Ben Frow
Quote:
“Under Ben Frow’s leadership, the Channel 5 portfolio is on course for a record year with young viewers and is once again out-performing terrestrial rivals in audience growth thanks to a string of new hit shows and supersized commissions of existing brands. And there’s been the small matter of a rebrand – all of which has seen the channel gain a rightful place on the Channel of the Year shortlist at this year’s Edinburgh TV Awards.

As industry recognition starts to grow – too slowly for Ben’s liking – he will talk about building reputation, a new aspirational programming tone and discuss how the channel is evolving into new genres, ranging from comedy to entertainment, history to natural history.

He’ll also talk about life under Viacom’s ownership, co-commissioning with the other brands in the group and will give his thoughts on Channel 5 HQ moving from The City to Camden this Autumn.

As ever, Frow’s controller session is not one to be missed.”

For me the most interesting parts are going to be hearing Kevin Lygo... "Lygo’s first ITV Edinburgh session will reveal his grand plan. He will explain how his new commissioning team and structure is gearing up to deliver his wish-list, which includes more midweek entertainment, a hit food franchise, non-scripted returners, longer runs." Here's hoping he announces a schedule overhaul from January 2017 - Sunday nights need fixing in my opinion with the soap block returning and aiming for drama at 8pm and 9pm like the old days.

Also Charlotte Moore's session will be interesting: "How will Moore refresh the parts of the schedule that feel tired? Will an original entertainment format break through?" Not holding out much hope for substance from Frow or Hunt. Even those descriptions sound like hot air.

But nonetheless look forward to hearing what they're all up to.

Also think the Poldark/Victoria and Cold Feet/Our Girl clashes are regrettable. We spend so much of the year with shit all on then the biggest dramas of the year go head to head. Why can't the channels give each other victories and offer complimentary scheduling? If they did we'd be seeing much higher overnight audiences.

As irrelevant as overnights are I do wish we'd see another 2010-2012 style resurgence of broadcast TV.
Mike Teevee
23-08-2016
Originally Posted by Salv*:
“Hi Mike, have you got CBB and Naked Attraction with +1? (does the latter look better than recently?), not bad for a 10 30pm slot.”

31 Celebrity Big Brother Channel 5 Inc HD 21:00 1317000
167 Celebrity Big Brother Channel 5+1 22:00 137000

79 Celebrity Big Brother's Bit on the Side Channel 5 Inc HD 23:00 359000
sorry no +1

44 Naked Attraction Channel 4 Inc HD 22:30 844000
185 Naked Attraction C4+1 Inc HD 23:30 120000
Salv*
23-08-2016
Originally Posted by Mike Teevee:
“31 Celebrity Big Brother Channel 5 Inc HD 21:00 1317000
167 Celebrity Big Brother Channel 5+1 22:00 137000

79 Celebrity Big Brother's Bit on the Side Channel 5 Inc HD 23:00 359000
sorry no +1

44 Naked Attraction Channel 4 Inc HD 22:30 844000
185 Naked Attraction C4+1 Inc HD 23:30 120000”

Thanks Mike!

That's actually decent for Naked Attraction for a late slot.
Mike Teevee
23-08-2016
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Looking at how strong the BBC was across the board last night - BBC Four even managed to beat C4 at 9pm - it could be that they are still very much on a high after the well received Olympics coverage. Viewers are very much in the habit of going straight to the BBC channels, and so there could be a bit of a lingering bias towards the BBC that should slowly correct itself in the coming days, particularly as ITV strengthens up for the autumn.

But it could be a problem for ITV in the short term - with so few viewers expected in peak for the likes of 500 Questions, Rookies and CCTV - Neighbourhood Watching, you do wonder who is going to see the trails for X Factor etc. No wonder they have resorted to buying advertising slots for Victoria on other channels.”

Not necessarily a bad thing. I'm actually surprised that ITV/C4/C5 don't spend more money on outdoor advertising.

Granted it's 20 years ago, but C4's poster campaign for Brookside was very effective in driving viewers to the programme.

I think similar inventive stuff along with cinema, tv and online, could reap good ratings.
Ray Tings
23-08-2016
From ITV Media:

Monday Top 10 (inc. +1)

1 ITV - 07:30 PM Coronation Street 6.395m 35%
2 BBC One - 08:00 PM EastEnders 5.935m 30%
3 ITV - 07:00 PM Emmerdale 5.746m 33%
4 ITV - 08:30 PM Coronation Street 5.725m 28% Not tape checked ("Broadcast" says 6.2m/30%)
5 BBC One - 06:30 PM Regional News and Weather 5.499m 34%
6 BBC One - 06:00 PM BBC News at Six 4.874m 33%
7 BBC One - 08:30 PM Eat Well for Less? 4.092m 20%
8 BBC One - 10:00 PM BBC News at Ten 4.051m 25%
9 BBC One - 07:00 PM The One Show 3612m 21%
10 BBC One - 10:30 PM Regional News and Weather 3..525m 24%

Monday Top 10 (inc. +1) (not including the five main channels)

1 BBC Four - 09:00 PM The Queen Mary 929k 4.6%
2 ITV2 - 07:30 PM You've Been Framed! Gold 562k 3.1%
3 E4 - 07:00 PM Hollyoaks 561k 3.2%
4 E4 - 09:00 PM Made in Chelsea: South of France 515k 2.5%
5 ITV2 - 11:00 PM Family Guy 470k 5.0%
6 ITV2 - 10:30 PM American Dad! 453k 3.4%
7 5 USA - 09:00 PM NCIS: Los Angeles 428k 2.1%
8 5 USA - 10:00 PM NCIS: New Orleans 422k 2.8%
9 ITV2 - 09:30 PM Family Guy 420k 2.1%
10 ITV2 - 09:00 PM Family Guy 416k 2.0%
david_leeward
23-08-2016
Originally Posted by RickLopez:
“I don't watch Strictly but to me that lineup looks really good as I actually have heard of all the people there, unlike other celebrity shows such as CBB where I knew one person.”

yeah I know what you mean, but it'll still not make me watch it
RobbieSykes123
23-08-2016
Wonder if Eat Well... could be reformatted to a 30 minute show and go up against Corrie? Granted it presumably got much less than 4m in the first half hour and boosted when 500 Qs came on...
Ray Tings
23-08-2016
Soaps a year ago (Monday 24 August 2015):

19:00 - Emmerdale: 5.99m (32.7%) (6.18m inc. +1)
19:30 - Coronation Street: 6.98m (35.2%) (7.20m inc. +1)
20:00 - EastEnders: 6.13m (28.4%)
20:30 - Coronation Street: 6.95m (31%) (7.23m inc. +1)

http://www.digitalspy.com/soaps/coro...-by-7-million/
Chief_Wiggum
23-08-2016
Stupid scheduling of the week: Channel 5 and ITV scheduling their football highlights programmes against each other tomorrow night. So if football fans want to watch League Cup highlights and the Champions League highlights, they'll have to resort to +1 unless they have a PVR.
Yoshi Fan
23-08-2016
Originally Posted by Mike Teevee:
“25 Alphabetical ITV 17:00 1672000”

Interesting to note that Alphabetical has actually increased, albeit only slightly, since last week.

It''s a decent enough format that just requires a couple of tweaks (particularly the impossible end game) and ITV might just have a successful Chase replacement.
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