The Ratings Thread (Part 68)

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Paul_Culloty

26-12-2016

Originally Posted by Jonwo:
“Minions came out Summer 2015 and films usually come to FTA 2.5-3 years after cinemas so it's plausible. The Lego Movie might be an option but I don't know if ITV has WB's films from 2014 onwards.

Jurassic World probably will be NYD rather than Christmas Day.”

RTE showed the Lego Movie this Christmas Eve, so FTA embargoes must be longer in the UK.

RickLopez

26-12-2016

Originally Posted by Jonwo:
“Next year's family film is likely Big Hero 6 which I imagine will do similar figures to Frozen this year. The only film that ITV could challenge it is probably Minions or The Lego Movie as Jurassic World is more likely post watershed.”

Will the BBC have Inside Out this Christmas? Wasn't that a bigger hit than Big Hero 6?

Hassaan13

26-12-2016

Originally Posted by RickLopez:
“Will the BBC have Inside Out this Christmas? Wasn't that a bigger hit than Big Hero 6?”

Inside Out was released last year so that won't be on terrestrial until Christmas 2018 at the earliest, I'd have thought.

Jonwo

26-12-2016

Originally Posted by RickLopez:
“Will the BBC have Inside Out this Christmas? Wasn't that a bigger hit than Big Hero 6?”

Inside Out was Summer 2015 so in theory they could show it but they'll probably want to spread the number of animated films since The Good Dinosaur will be relegated to Christmas Eve or Boxing Day 2018, I suspect they'll save it for 2018. I think they'll want Inside Out and Zootropolis for Christmas 2018/NYD 2019 and Finding Dory/Moana for Christmas 2019/NYD 2020.

They didn't show Maleficent this year so I suspect they're saving it for next year, same with Guardians of the Galaxy. Cinderella will likely have its FTA premiere next Christmas plus Shaun the Sheep and Home.

Nakatomi

26-12-2016

Originally Posted by Jonwo:
“Inside Out was Summer 2015 so in theory they could show it but they'll probably want to spread the number of animated films since The Good Dinosaur will be relegated to Christmas Eve or Boxing Day 2018, I suspect they'll save it for 2018. I think they'll want Inside Out and Zootropolis for Christmas 2018/NYD 2019 and Finding Dory/Moana for Christmas 2019/NYD 2020.

They didn't show Maleficent this year so I suspect they're saving it for next year, same with Guardians of the Galaxy. Cinderella will likely have its FTA premiere next Christmas plus Shaun the Sheep and Home.”

Have it on good authority that Guardians of the Galaxy is the Easter Bank Holiday film in 2017.

Aaron_2015

26-12-2016

Originally Posted by dennisboy:
“Didn't know you spoke for the thread, happy Christmas.”

I didn't know I did either. If you want to do it in your own way that's fine by me.

Nakatomi

26-12-2016

Originally Posted by wizzywick:
“Just caught up with Doctor Who and Call The Midwife. Was it just me that thought Doctor Who was total shite? It was dull, dreary and ever so pretentious. Call the Midwife though was very good. Felt like I was watching a film. I wonder how it would have rated had it been on on Christmas Eve instead? Or, even tonight.”

Pretentious? Actually, I think this year and last year are back to the Pre-Moffat Xmas specials which were always big, brash and exciting and fun for all the family that you could very easily watch as a casual viewer. I'm glad Moffat's finally dropped the "Miserable Christmas" and continuations of storylines we got with Matt Smith. Much better for a bit of fun.

RickLopez

26-12-2016

Originally Posted by Hassaan13:
“Inside Out was released last year so that won't be on terrestrial until Christmas 2018 at the earliest, I'd have thought.”

It was released Summer 15 so 2.5 years later is Winter 17.

I'd assume they'd have it.

Thanks for all the explanation

Maybe saving terrestrial premieres is part of the problem of Frozen being so low? If they delay Inside Out by another year after they have it, the interest will have waned. Shouldn't they show them as soon as possible to try and capture any remaining interest?

Salv*

26-12-2016

Not much to talk about. Soaps were low, I expected around a million higher for Frozen at least. Lion King did well though, but i have to sy the highlight rating for me is Home Alone getting 3m+ on Channel 4. Timeless film and still pulling in those figures. Interesting that Bear Hunt getting 1.1m for it's repeat, brings the 2 showings at around 5m!

Nostlagic

26-12-2016

Originally Posted by cylon6:
“The Lion King did very well and shows how Channel 4 wasted the premiere of it. And Potter did well again. Doctor Who was helped by being sandwiched between two popular shows and Midwife shows again that its place is justified as it brought in the viewers.”

Makes me wonder how much it would've gotten had it premiered on BBC1 in the 3:10pm slot instead, with no competition from ITV. TLK is something that deserved to be premiered on New Years Day at 6:30pm, much like Up did. 7-8m viewers to really boost the evening.

Jonwo

26-12-2016

Originally Posted by Nakatomi:
“Have it on good authority that Guardians of the Galaxy is the Easter Bank Holiday film in 2017.”

Given the sequel out only two weeks later then I'm expecting huge ratings similar to how Indiana Jones got over 7m a week before KOTS came out and also Channel 5 when they aired The DaVinci Code before Angels and Demons came out.

Originally Posted by RickLopez:
“It was released Summer 15 so 2.5 years later is Winter 17.

I'd assume they'd have it.

Thanks for all the explanation

Maybe saving terrestrial premieres is part of the problem of Frozen being so low? If they delay Inside Out by another year after they have it, the interest will have waned. Shouldn't they show them as soon as possible to try and capture any remaining interest?”

It's possible that the contracts with Disney prevents them from showing from a certain date.

D.M.N.

26-12-2016

Looking at the breakdown rzt posted, ITV was ahead of BBC One throughout most of the daytime:

- 06:00 to 09:20 - BBC One
- 09:20 to 14:55 - ITV
- 14:55 to 16:40 - BBC One
- 16:40 to 16:45 - ITV
- 16:45 to 20:15 - BBC One
=> swaps between BBC and ITV various times until 21:00 when...
- 21:00 to 23:50 - BBC One
- 23:50 to 01:20 - ITV

Which probably shows that ITV's schedule was fine - but only for the period when they ran films. As soon as they went to some form of original programming, they were consistently losing to the BBC.

derek500

26-12-2016

Originally Posted by RickLopez:
“
Maybe saving terrestrial premieres is part of the problem of Frozen being so low?”

Sky had Frozen until April (they had it for two Christmases). The BBC would have waited until Christmas, even if they had it from then.

Interestingly, Amazon Prime still has last night's Five premiere, Dallas Buyers Club.

Salv*

26-12-2016

What do we expect film-wise for the big days next year? Good Friday, Easter Sunday, Xmas Eve, Christmas Day and Boxing Day?

I'll predict all of these...
Die Hard
The Lion King (again)
Home Alone (Again)
Guardians of the Galaxy
Django Unchained
Ant-Man
The Mask
Furious 7 (could this get the BBC1 primetime slot?, or would it be too early?)
127 Hours
Lego Movie
Gone Girl
Anchorman 2

Christmas Day 2018- Deadpool

Nostlagic

26-12-2016

Marvelous for Home Alone! That film is essential Christmas Day viewing, it's dynamite.

Last year Home Alone 2 got 2.7m in that slot. Nice bit of counteractive scheduling. Viewers will watch when nothing appeals to them on the other side.

I even watched some of it, over at my cousin's we caught the traps at the end. Still laughing at the bit Kevin puts the spider on his face and he screams like hell

Hassaan13

26-12-2016

Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Looking at the breakdown rzt posted, ITV was ahead of BBC One throughout most of the daytime:

- 06:00 to 09:20 - BBC One
- 09:20 to 14:55 - ITV
- 14:55 to 16:40 - BBC One
- 16:40 to 16:45 - ITV
- 16:45 to 20:15 - BBC One
=> swaps between BBC and ITV various times until 21:00 when...
- 21:00 to 23:50 - BBC One
- 23:50 to 01:20 - ITV

Which probably shows that ITV's schedule was fine - but only for the period when they ran films. As soon as they went to some form of original programming, they were consistently losing to the BBC.”

Interesting. What do you think ITV could have done differently? More entertainment programming and less soap, perhaps?

Elsewhere, Boxing Day overnights since 2006:

2007:

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2012:

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Jonwo

26-12-2016

Originally Posted by Salv*:
“What do we expect film-wise for the big days next year? Good Friday, Easter Sunday, Xmas Eve, Christmas Day and Boxing Day?

I'll predict all of these...
Die Hard
The Lion King (again)
Home Alone (Again)
Guardians of the Galaxy
Django Unchained
Ant-Man
The Mask
Furious 7 (could this get the BBC1 primetime slot?, or would it be too early?)
127 Hours
Lego Movie
Gone Girl
Anchorman 2

Christmas Day 2018- Deadpool”

Django Unchained already aired on Channel 5 and Furious 7 probably won't be on BBC One as Channel 4 has Universal films apart from DM franchise.

Apart from The Lego Movie, all the others probably will be on earlier in the year. I'm expecting Ab Fab the Movie will be BBC One although it does depend if BBC Films fully funded or not, likewise with David Brent Life on the Road.

AcerBen

26-12-2016

Originally Posted by Aaron_2015:
“To be fair Alan Carr denied this on Twitter, but he's unlikely to admit it has been axed.”

He seems to have contradicted himself re Chatty Man. He said "I’ve gone as far as I can with Chatty Man" and then later said it hadn't been axed. I suppose they are keeping their options open. His Happy Hour show doesn't seem to be doing well so they might as well bring back Chatty Man. Perhaps put it on at 9 or 9.30 instead so it doesn't clash with Norton.

RickyLeeds85

26-12-2016

No one got sky1 ratings for yesterday yet?

Only_You

26-12-2016

Was there not meant to be a David Walliams book adaption this year?

Baz_James

26-12-2016

Originally Posted by Only_You:
“Was there not meant to be a David Walliams book adaption this year?”

The rights were obtained for Awful Auntie but I don't think any attempt was made to actually film it. Can't find a trace of it on IMDb.

derek500

26-12-2016

Originally Posted by RickyLeeds85:
“No one got sky1 ratings for yesterday yet?”

They'll be 'chocolate teapot' as all the big shows and films were available in the morning and any downloads won't be picked up by BARB.

RickyLeeds85

26-12-2016

Originally Posted by derek500:
“They'll be 'chocolate teapot' as all the big shows and films were available in the morning and any downloads won't be picked up by BARB.”

I see although i would have thought the last dragonslayer would have been classed as a big show for Sky1 at least.

hyperstarsponge

26-12-2016

Originally Posted by Salv*:
“Not much to talk about. Soaps were low, I expected around a million higher for Frozen at least. Lion King did well though, but i have to sy the highlight rating for me is Home Alone getting 3m+ on Channel 4. Timeless film and still pulling in those figures. Interesting that Bear Hunt getting 1.1m for it's repeat, brings the 2 showings at around 5m! ”

Not really surprised about Frozen, Everyone is sick of the film by now apart from young girls. Lion King is more of a draw to me personally

wizzywick

26-12-2016

David Walliams has been dropped from the 10pm slot on Holiday Tuesday and replaced with a rightful and far superior 2012 George Michael concert.

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