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The Ratings Thread (Part 68)
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Originally Posted by Nakatomi:
“David Brent had no actual funding from BBC films - they're only listed as producers due to owning the Brent character. Ricky has sold worldwide rights to Netflix so doubt it will air on TV.
Ab Fab is fully BBC films and distributed by Fox so imagine it will premiere on BBC2 or BBC1 Christmas 2017.”
“David Brent had no actual funding from BBC films - they're only listed as producers due to owning the Brent character. Ricky has sold worldwide rights to Netflix so doubt it will air on TV.
Ab Fab is fully BBC films and distributed by Fox so imagine it will premiere on BBC2 or BBC1 Christmas 2017.”
I'm surprised BBC Films weren't involved with David Brent, guessing Gervais was able to get funding pretty easily from Netflix
Originally Posted by Hassaan13:
“The BBC have already turned down more Goodnight Sweetheart. I suppose they could always get picked up by ITV, although you'd think they'd have done so by now if they were really interested.”
“The BBC have already turned down more Goodnight Sweetheart. I suppose they could always get picked up by ITV, although you'd think they'd have done so by now if they were really interested.”
It is a running joke on this thread from me, don't worry. As I was pushing for a GS revival on here 3 years ago.
Marks and Gran are still trying to get a new series on air somewhere (never likely to be ITV - more likely to be something like Dave or Yesterday) or failing that will go back to their plan to turn it into a stage musical. Which has been their day job for the past few years with the success of Dreamboats and Petticoats.
It was the show most viewers wanted to become a series according to several polls on here and in the media and it even brought a discussion on BBC TV after complaints were made to the channel when it got turned down but the BBC justified it by saying they had limited slots for comedy.
Of course, its viewing figures were not huge, but it was widely argued to be the best written and acted of the revivals and was filmed so near transmission it got almost no advance promotion as part of the sit com season with only a few seconds added to the on screen ad just a few days prior to transmission and none of the coverage the other shows got in the press ahead of the series as these others were ready to show the press in preview screenings. GS was a late substitute and not filmed in time for the promos.
So what comedies do we have for 2017 on BBC1?
The year starts with Still Open All Hours (extended to 7 episodes including Xmas special up from 6 including Xmas special) and Not Going Out (I thought this was 8 episodes but BBC Media Centre is saying it's 6 - may last a bit longer than 6 weeks due to the possibility of being interrupted every 3 weeks for FA Cup Football.)
There's also a new series of Tracey Ullman's Show. Promoted to peak viewing?
There's that hospital comedy that came out of the Comedy Playhouse series (can't remember its name).
Porridge
Car Share (due for transmission in May according to Peter Kay)
Home From Home starring Johnnie Vegas (which came out of the New On Two pilots.)
Presumably we can "look forward to" {cough} a sixth series of Citizen Khan.
And will we get another series of Still Game?
Anything else anyone knows off?
The year starts with Still Open All Hours (extended to 7 episodes including Xmas special up from 6 including Xmas special) and Not Going Out (I thought this was 8 episodes but BBC Media Centre is saying it's 6 - may last a bit longer than 6 weeks due to the possibility of being interrupted every 3 weeks for FA Cup Football.)
There's also a new series of Tracey Ullman's Show. Promoted to peak viewing?
There's that hospital comedy that came out of the Comedy Playhouse series (can't remember its name).
Porridge
Car Share (due for transmission in May according to Peter Kay)
Home From Home starring Johnnie Vegas (which came out of the New On Two pilots.)
Presumably we can "look forward to" {cough} a sixth series of Citizen Khan.
And will we get another series of Still Game?
Anything else anyone knows off?
Originally Posted by iaindb:
“So what comedies do we have for 2017 on BBC1?
The year starts with Still Open All Hours (extended to 7 episodes including Xmas special up from 6 including Xmas special) and Not Going Out (I thought this was 8 episodes but BBC Media Centre is saying it's 6 - may last a bit longer than 6 weeks due to the possibility of being interrupted every 3 weeks for FA Cup Football.)
There's also a new series of Tracey Ullman's Show. Promoted to peak viewing?
There's that hospital comedy that came out of the Comedy Playhouse series (can't remember its name).
Porridge
Car Share (due for transmission in May according to Peter Kay)
Home From Home starring Johnnie Vegas (which came out of the New On Two pilots.)
Presumably we can "look forward to" {cough} a sixth series of Citizen Khan.
And will we get another series of Still Game?
Anything else anyone knows off?”
“So what comedies do we have for 2017 on BBC1?
The year starts with Still Open All Hours (extended to 7 episodes including Xmas special up from 6 including Xmas special) and Not Going Out (I thought this was 8 episodes but BBC Media Centre is saying it's 6 - may last a bit longer than 6 weeks due to the possibility of being interrupted every 3 weeks for FA Cup Football.)
There's also a new series of Tracey Ullman's Show. Promoted to peak viewing?
There's that hospital comedy that came out of the Comedy Playhouse series (can't remember its name).
Porridge
Car Share (due for transmission in May according to Peter Kay)
Home From Home starring Johnnie Vegas (which came out of the New On Two pilots.)
Presumably we can "look forward to" {cough} a sixth series of Citizen Khan.
And will we get another series of Still Game?
Anything else anyone knows off?”
I think that might be it. ITV look like they will only have Benidorm unless we get a series of Birds of a Feather.
On the face of it it's not like we can say there's little comedy on the main channels but whether most of them will actually rate is another matter.
Originally Posted by Jaycee Dove:
“It is a running joke on this thread from me, don't worry. As I was pushing for a GS revival on here 3 years ago.
Marks and Gran are still trying to get a new series on air somewhere (never likely to be ITV - more likely to be something like Dave or Yesterday) or failing that will go back to their plan to turn it into a stage musical. Which has been their day job for the past few years with the success of Dreamboats and Petticoats.
It was the show most viewers wanted to become a series according to several polls on here and in the media and it even brought a discussion on BBC TV after complaints were made to the channel when it got turned down but the BBC justified it by saying they had limited slots for comedy.
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“It is a running joke on this thread from me, don't worry. As I was pushing for a GS revival on here 3 years ago.
Marks and Gran are still trying to get a new series on air somewhere (never likely to be ITV - more likely to be something like Dave or Yesterday) or failing that will go back to their plan to turn it into a stage musical. Which has been their day job for the past few years with the success of Dreamboats and Petticoats.
It was the show most viewers wanted to become a series according to several polls on here and in the media and it even brought a discussion on BBC TV after complaints were made to the channel when it got turned down but the BBC justified it by saying they had limited slots for comedy.
”
It should have got the gig ahead of Porridge which will be as big an insult to the original as Still Open All Hours is to Open All Hours.
Poor Ronnie Barker. He'll be spinning in his grave so fast, his coffin will come out in Australia. Whatever did he do to offend Charlotte Moore?
Originally Posted by Hassaan13:
“I think that might be it. ITV look like they will only have Benidorm unless we get a series of Birds of a Feather.
On the face of it it's not like we can say there's little comedy on the main channels but whether most of them will actually rate is another matter.”
“I think that might be it. ITV look like they will only have Benidorm unless we get a series of Birds of a Feather.
On the face of it it's not like we can say there's little comedy on the main channels but whether most of them will actually rate is another matter.”
I'm guessing Car Share will get a prime 9pm slot but will then have to be paired up with something else.
Two series of HIGNFY means there are many 9:30pm slots to fill so most of the other comedies will probably have to go there.
Of course Mrs Brown's Boys repeats could fill some of them.
Still Open All Hours is of course a Sunday night job, and Citizen Khan is 8:30pm
Is Still Game coming back as I understand it was the first series for a while?
Originally Posted by marke09:
“Actress Liz Smith - nanna from the Royle Family has died aged 95”
“Actress Liz Smith - nanna from the Royle Family has died aged 95”
Oh no. We were only talking about her last week when The Royle Family aired. She was an excellent actress but 95 is a very good age. RIP.
2016 takes someone else.
Originally Posted by iaindb:
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Anything else anyone knows off?”
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Anything else anyone knows off?”
I would repeat the brilliant Mum on BBC One. So deserves a bigger audience.
Talking of comedy, I caught up on the Christmas episode of The Windsors. Totally OTT, but hilarious. Vikki Pepperdine's Princess Anne was one of the comedy performances of the year (I didn't think she could top her Fiona in Camping).
Originally Posted by marke09:
“Actress Liz Smith - nanna from the Royle Family has died aged 95”
“Actress Liz Smith - nanna from the Royle Family has died aged 95”
God bless her, and The Queen of Sheba was only on a few days ago!
Still Open All Hours is absolutely awful. It has no right to rate well. Its basically The Royal Bodygaurd but based on Open All Hours.
I had the misfortune of watching it tonight with family. It'll rate well nonetheless.
I had the misfortune of watching it tonight with family. It'll rate well nonetheless.
From a ratings thread perspective, isn't the problem with the alternative BBC1 schedules being suggested the fact that the alternatives probably aren't going to rate any better than what already goes out?
The main shows that have been proposed as coming in - Michael McIntyre, Still Open All Hours, Outnumbered, Miranda - may offer more variety to the schedule (which in itself would be a good thing IMO) but are unlikely to deliver a significant gain on the current output in terms of rating - and in some cases may actually be lower.
For example, would McIntyre rate higher than CTM - he didn't on Christmas Eve? Would Open All Hours beat Doctor Who? Would Outnumbered outnumber EastEnders on Christmas night?
The BBC don't really have a bank of shows that you could automatically switch in for those that are currently deemed as under-performing on Christmas Day and suddenly boost ratings by a couple of million across prime time? Had they held back one of their comedy specials from the Summer (Porridge or Are You Being Served?) that might have had the curiosity value to go somewhat higher on Christmas night due to those programmes iconic status, but apart from commissioning more one-offs for the day itself like "Stick Man", I'm not sure there's anything currently on the BBC that could have come in and made a big difference?
(For all this fantasy scheduling, I think there's only 3 remotely viable "revivals" that would get anything like old school Christmas day ratings and they would be a new "One Foot in the Grave", "Vicar of Dibley" or "Wallace and Gromit" - and I suspect all of those are somewhat unlikely otherwise the BBC would surely be doing everything possible to make it happen...?)
The main shows that have been proposed as coming in - Michael McIntyre, Still Open All Hours, Outnumbered, Miranda - may offer more variety to the schedule (which in itself would be a good thing IMO) but are unlikely to deliver a significant gain on the current output in terms of rating - and in some cases may actually be lower.
For example, would McIntyre rate higher than CTM - he didn't on Christmas Eve? Would Open All Hours beat Doctor Who? Would Outnumbered outnumber EastEnders on Christmas night?
The BBC don't really have a bank of shows that you could automatically switch in for those that are currently deemed as under-performing on Christmas Day and suddenly boost ratings by a couple of million across prime time? Had they held back one of their comedy specials from the Summer (Porridge or Are You Being Served?) that might have had the curiosity value to go somewhat higher on Christmas night due to those programmes iconic status, but apart from commissioning more one-offs for the day itself like "Stick Man", I'm not sure there's anything currently on the BBC that could have come in and made a big difference?
(For all this fantasy scheduling, I think there's only 3 remotely viable "revivals" that would get anything like old school Christmas day ratings and they would be a new "One Foot in the Grave", "Vicar of Dibley" or "Wallace and Gromit" - and I suspect all of those are somewhat unlikely otherwise the BBC would surely be doing everything possible to make it happen...?)
Originally Posted by pdwill:
“From a ratings thread perspective, isn't the problem with the alternative BBC1 schedules being suggested the fact that the alternatives probably aren't going to rate any better than what already goes out?
The main shows that have been proposed as coming in - Michael McIntyre, Still Open All Hours, Outnumbered, Miranda - may offer more variety to the schedule (which in itself would be a good thing IMO) but are unlikely to deliver a significant gain on the current output in terms of rating - and in some cases may actually be lower.
For example, would McIntyre rate higher than CTM - he didn't on Christmas Eve? Would Open All Hours beat Doctor Who? Would Outnumbered outnumber EastEnders on Christmas night?
The BBC don't really have a bank of shows that you could automatically switch in for those that are currently deemed as under-performing on Christmas Day and suddenly boost ratings by a couple of million across prime time? Had they held back one of their comedy specials from the Summer (Porridge or Are You Being Served?) that might have had the curiosity value to go somewhat higher on Christmas night due to those programmes iconic status, but apart from commissioning more one-offs for the day itself like "Stick Man", I'm not sure there's anything currently on the BBC that could have come in and made a big difference? ”
“From a ratings thread perspective, isn't the problem with the alternative BBC1 schedules being suggested the fact that the alternatives probably aren't going to rate any better than what already goes out?
The main shows that have been proposed as coming in - Michael McIntyre, Still Open All Hours, Outnumbered, Miranda - may offer more variety to the schedule (which in itself would be a good thing IMO) but are unlikely to deliver a significant gain on the current output in terms of rating - and in some cases may actually be lower.
For example, would McIntyre rate higher than CTM - he didn't on Christmas Eve? Would Open All Hours beat Doctor Who? Would Outnumbered outnumber EastEnders on Christmas night?
The BBC don't really have a bank of shows that you could automatically switch in for those that are currently deemed as under-performing on Christmas Day and suddenly boost ratings by a couple of million across prime time? Had they held back one of their comedy specials from the Summer (Porridge or Are You Being Served?) that might have had the curiosity value to go somewhat higher on Christmas night due to those programmes iconic status, but apart from commissioning more one-offs for the day itself like "Stick Man", I'm not sure there's anything currently on the BBC that could have come in and made a big difference? ”
Yes, I think you're absolutely right.
Christmas Day viewing has now been changed so dramatically by on demand and catch up that most shows are now underperforming their regular runs, as opposed to over performing maybe just 5 - 10 years or so ago. Stuff like Call the Midwife, Strictly and Mrs Brown's Boys are probably a couple of million down on what they regularly do elsewhere. Doctor Who and EE are perhaps in line, but nothing really gets a 'Christmas Boost' anymore.
In that context, I don't see any of the likely shows we mention helping at all. More 'one-offs' along the lines of Stick Man might be the way to go, but obviously those bring more risk of totally flopping than the current line up.
Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“Still Open All Hours is absolutely awful. It has no right to rate well. Its basically The Royal Bodygaurd but based on Open All Hours.
I had the misfortune of watching it tonight with family. It'll rate well nonetheless.”
“Still Open All Hours is absolutely awful. It has no right to rate well. Its basically The Royal Bodygaurd but based on Open All Hours.
I had the misfortune of watching it tonight with family. It'll rate well nonetheless.”
It'll rate because people like it. That's just personal choice; I can't grasp why many shows top the ratings or struggle too.
I agree with you that's it's a poor version of OAH and you wonder if it's just the pushing of the right nostalgia buttons. I can't really criticise that now, can I?
Originally Posted by lewiep93:
“Final roundup from me, it's marvellous having all of this data but not so marvellous calculating and typing it all up! Big thanks to rzt, Marcus from GB and Steve Williams
Christmas Day 2016 Ratings Roundup
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“Final roundup from me, it's marvellous having all of this data but not so marvellous calculating and typing it all up! Big thanks to rzt, Marcus from GB and Steve Williams
Christmas Day 2016 Ratings Roundup
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Nothing terribly exciting going on with this year's Christmas Day ratings then. Strictly Come Dancing and Home Alone being the most impressive ratings in my opinion. Coronation Street did well to achieve the top soap status once again although it wasn't a huge margin of victory. I suspect Eastenders will see a temporary boost at some point over the festive season, probably either this Tuesday or on New Year's Day. Mrs Brown did well to increase on its Eastenders lead-in, considering it started rather late at 10:30pm. That 3.1m Harry Potter rating is notable given it started at 11:55am., well and truly thrashing The Croods on BBC1 at the same time.
If the BBC are able to have the Christmas Day news at 2:50pm and 11:30pm with no bulletins in between, I wonder why they haven't tried doing that more often in recent years.
Thank you to those who have taken time out, to provide and type out the ratings this Christmas.
I think EE will get a boost New Years Day and that it will timeshift well for Christmas Day and others. I think we could see a better rating for it last night too.
Originally Posted by gavin shipman:
“I think EE will get a boost New Years Day and that it will timeshift well for Christmas Day and others. I think we could see a better rating for it last night too.”
“I think EE will get a boost New Years Day and that it will timeshift well for Christmas Day and others. I think we could see a better rating for it last night too.”
I wouldn't have thought so. It might get a little boost, but nothing like previous years I don't think. Even if NYD is brilliant, it won't make up for the damage SOC has done so far.
It's a shame BBC2 scheduled Pride quite late last night, itso premiere deserves a 9pm start IMO, one of the best BBC films of recent years.
The only show that seems to get a Christmas Day boost these days is Doctor Who, which does better than the regular series. Everything else is either in line with or below what it gets for regular episodes, even in consolidated. Christmas Day viewing seemed to shift quite sharply in 2014 and then again in 2015. It has settled a bit more this year but at a far lower level than just a few years ago.
Agree, a complete waste of a great movie. Saving Mr Banks and The Lady in The Van have done really well over the festive period so it seems odd that this one was screened so late.
Originally Posted by Ads:
“It's a shame BBC2 scheduled Pride quite late last night, itso premiere deserves a 9pm start IMO, one of the best BBC films of recent years.”
“It's a shame BBC2 scheduled Pride quite late last night, itso premiere deserves a 9pm start IMO, one of the best BBC films of recent years.”
Agree, a complete waste of a great movie. Saving Mr Banks and The Lady in The Van have done really well over the festive period so it seems odd that this one was screened so late.
Originally Posted by Ads:
“It's a shame BBC2 scheduled Pride quite late last night, itso premiere deserves a 9pm start IMO, one of the best BBC films of recent years.”
“It's a shame BBC2 scheduled Pride quite late last night, itso premiere deserves a 9pm start IMO, one of the best BBC films of recent years.”
Watched it on Sky. One of those films that I was looking forward to, but ultimately disappointed.
From rzt:
Boxing Day Overnights
BBC 1
How To Train Your Dragon 2: 2.76m (17.1%)
Revolving Rhymes: 3.31m (17.3%)
The Great Chritmas Bake Off: 4.57m (21.7%)
EastEnders: 5.85m (27.8%)
Still Open All Hours: 3.16m (14.7%)
The Witness for the Prosecution: 4.69m (22.7%)
ITV inc +1
Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban: 3.40m (20.6%)
Emmerdale: 5.58m (26.9%)
Coronation Street: 5.96m (27.8%)
You've Been Framed: 2.61m (12.4%)
Coronation Street: 5.48m (25.4%)
Captain Phillips: 3.40m (18.3%)
Looking at those, ITV had a better night. Harry Potter doing well again there, soaps doing ok, and Captain Phillips rated better than I thought it would.
Open All Hours just dire, getting the ratings it deserves. EE ok, Bake Off disappointing. Meh, Christmas ratings to forget really.
Boxing Day Overnights
BBC 1
How To Train Your Dragon 2: 2.76m (17.1%)
Revolving Rhymes: 3.31m (17.3%)
The Great Chritmas Bake Off: 4.57m (21.7%)
EastEnders: 5.85m (27.8%)
Still Open All Hours: 3.16m (14.7%)
The Witness for the Prosecution: 4.69m (22.7%)
ITV inc +1
Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban: 3.40m (20.6%)
Emmerdale: 5.58m (26.9%)
Coronation Street: 5.96m (27.8%)
You've Been Framed: 2.61m (12.4%)
Coronation Street: 5.48m (25.4%)
Captain Phillips: 3.40m (18.3%)
Looking at those, ITV had a better night. Harry Potter doing well again there, soaps doing ok, and Captain Phillips rated better than I thought it would.
Open All Hours just dire, getting the ratings it deserves. EE ok, Bake Off disappointing. Meh, Christmas ratings to forget really.
A really terrible set of overnight numbers, it has to be said. The shocker has to be Open All Hours, what happened?!
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