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#19626 |
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Studios could sell them on a franchise by franchise basis. Between the different studios you've got new films slated for...
Bond Potter Star Wars Avengers Pirates Justice League Planet of the Apes Sherlock Holmes Fast and Furious Transformers Turtles King Kong/Godzilla Monsters (Mummy, Frank, Drac, Jekyll, Invisible Man) X-Men (including Deadpool and Gambit) Jurassic Mission Impossible Indy Jones Star Trek Bourne Avatar Men in Black Then you've got the animation studios... Pixar - Toy Story, Wall-E, Inside Out, Nemo, Monsters, Cars, Coco Disney - Frozen, Big Hero, Ralph, Zootopia, Moana, Tangled, Gigantic DreamWorks - Shrek, Panda, Dragon, Madagascar, Captain Underpants WB - Happy Feet, Lego, Storks, JL Fox - Ice Age, Rio, Trolls Illumination - Minions, Sing, Pets, Despicable Me, Grinch Stole Xmas. Hollywood works via tentpoles and BBC, ITV, C4 and Five could do the same. Also, Justice League isn't animated, you might be confusing with The Lego Batman Movie, Speaking of Lego, who has The Warner Bros output deal? I assume it's ITV and Channel 5 since a few titles have appeared on both channels. Channel 4 still has Paramount although they've taken ages to come to FTA as Paramount did a deal with Netflix which had an longer period to show them compared to the other studios. |
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Star Wars, Marvel, DC, Bond, Wizarding World and Indiana Jones are likely the only franchises as well as the Disney live action fairytales that can justify being sold seperate from the main studio outputs. I think in the US, basic cable networks like FX, TNT, USA etc do buy on the title to title basis but they do get films that haven't been that successful thrown in as part of the deal.
Also, Justice League isn't animated, you might be confusing with The Lego Batman Movie, Speaking of Lego, who has The Warner Bros output deal? I assume it's ITV and Channel 5 since a few titles have appeared on both channels. Channel 4 still has Paramount although they've taken ages to come to FTA as Paramount did a deal with Netflix which had an longer period to show them compared to the other studios. When we consider what movies will rate well here we should always factor in that British movies will probably do well (like Potter and Bond) and what flops in America can be big here (Bridget Jones). It still tickles me that Fast and Furious 7 made more $ outside of NAmerica than The Force Awakens did. ![]()
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Consolidated rating for E4's latest US import Timeless for episode 1: 1.32m (inc +1).
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When we consider what movies will rate well here we should always factor in that British movies will probably do well (like Potter and Bond) and what flops in America can be big here (Bridget Jones). It still tickles me that Fast and Furious 7 made more $ outside of NAmerica than The Force Awakens did. ![]() ![]() Bridget Jones has always done better here than in the USA, the sequel was made for the OS audience and the American release was gravy. It was the same with Johnny English and the Mr Bean films. The Jungle Book did superb business in the UK, it was hugely successful in the US but the UK did £46m, more than Finding Dory by £4m which had a summer release. The BFG was also hugely successful in the UK but I think that's due to the Roald Dahl factor. |
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I think this is the issue - drama has never really played well on Christmas Eve (or Day) as they aren't really times you can sit down and concentrate. Grantchester should have been left on Boxing Day and I do think it'll timeshift well.That doesn't explain the horrible rating for Birds of a Feather though. That really ought to have done better. A dire number for Corrie perhaps sums up ITV's evening. Blankety Blank was acceptable I suppose, probably touch and go whether they make more.
Awful for Walliams/Bassey, I did think it was an odd offering. By contrast, McIntyre was a perfect fit for Christmas Eve and rated accordingly. |
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When do these 'timeshift' figures get added on? and what exactly are they? Excuse my ignorance!!
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When do these 'timeshift' figures get added on? and what exactly are they? Excuse my ignorance!!
So tonight - Ethel & Ernest looks very sweet and high quality animation but it's not something anybody in this household. And we're certainly not interested in Harry bloody Potter. So Mum's catching up on recorded programmes. There's Trollied from 12th December and Mr & Mrs from December 18th, so if we were part of the BARB sampole audience that would be added to the 28 day consolidated data. After that we watched Mrs Brown's Boy from Christmas Day. That would be added to the seven day data. Later at 10pm when I'm in bed I'll be watching Jonathan Creek. Even though it's recorded, because I'm watching before 2am, it would be counted in the overnight figures. If I was part of the BARB sample. Which I'm not. |
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Well Ethel & Ernest was superb. The best thing this Christmas. Just pips Marigold for me.
I hope it does well. |
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The BFG would be an excellent Christmas Eve film for ITV if they could get it for Christmas 2018
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It's when people record the programme and watch at a later date. The BARB website has columns for seven day consolidated and twenty-eight day consolidated ratings.
So tonight - Ethel & Ernest looks very sweet and high quality animation but it's not something anybody in this household. And we're certainly not interested in Harry bloody Potter. So Mum's catching up on recorded programmes. There's Trollied from 12th December and Mr & Mrs from December 18th, so if we were part of the BARB sampole audience that would be added to the 28 day consolidated data. After that we watched Mrs Brown's Boy from Christmas Day. That would be added to the seven day data. Later at 10pm when I'm in bed I'll be watching Jonathan Creek. Even though it's recorded, because I'm watching before 2am, it would be counted in the overnight figures. If I was part of the BARB sample. Which I'm not. |
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Not at all. You need to accept that this is the new reality for 'big' ratings. The broadcasters have.
Last night's Eastenders was higher than Christmas Day as an example. There's far too much on Christmas Day, it's too crowded and the shows are not inclusive enough. 90 minutes of Call The Midwife shouldn't be there for a start. |
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Well Ethel & Ernest was superb. The best thing this Christmas. Just pips Marigold for me.
I hope it does well. |
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Well Ethel & Ernest was superb. The best thing this Christmas. Just pips Marigold for me.
I hope it does well. |
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Fast cars are an easier sell to places like China than space operas like Star Wars.
Bridget Jones has always done better here than in the USA, the sequel was made for the OS audience and the American release was gravy. It was the same with Johnny English and the Mr Bean films. The Jungle Book did superb business in the UK, it was hugely successful in the US but the UK did £46m, more than Finding Dory by £4m which had a summer release. The BFG was also hugely successful in the UK but I think that's due to the Roald Dahl factor. |
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My mum liked it. It's either going to be a flop, or a Stick Man style hit that should probably have got a better slot than 28th December, such as Boxing Day.
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Consolidated rating for E4's latest US import Timeless for episode 1: 1.32m (inc +1).
![]() There's a touch of the Flashpoint CB series about it and I'm intrigued to see where it goes. My wife is worried it's going to get like Lost and become head-hurting. |
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Harry Potter is as british as fish and chips
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I wouldn't say this was the new reality at all but schedulers really need to think again about how they are doing their job because there are issues when you have shows that are getting higher ratings for regular episodes rather than a Christmas Day special.
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The suffering Debbie Reynolds must have endured recently...
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The suffering ends. RiP.
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The suffering ends. RiP.
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Star Wars might be sold under a separate deal like a don and Indiana Jones so TFA may not end on BBC One
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BBC1 (Top 3: 7.30pm-11.25pm):
Jonathan Creek: 5.11m (24.4%) Ethel & Ernest: 3.87m (18.6%) Mrs Brown's Boys (R): 2.35m (18.6%) |
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ITV excluding HD / excluding +1:
ED: 4.82m; HP: 2.96m |
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