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Old 30-12-2016, 18:43
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While they were at it they should have put in a button where if the judge turns around and doesn't like the look of them they can press it and the chair keeps turning back away from them again.
I like that idea.
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Old 30-12-2016, 18:45
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Great ratings for Charlie Brooker and the Flying Scotsman.
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Old 30-12-2016, 19:06
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So as predicted, the BBC is now starting to overlap Let It Shine and TVUK. I knew it would happen if ITV scheduled it at 8pm. Now if the latter is a success, it'll be the sitauation with TXF and SCD all over again.

And an 1hr of YBF?? With the BBc starting their night off early with Celeb Mastermind at 5.40pm, BBC1 will start soaking up the older viewers from news onwards.
ITV should replace YBF with Celebrity Chase or Tipping Point Stars and push YBF earlier.


BTW, shocking that ITV have the Chase, Tipping Point then the turkey Rebound airing from 12:15AM NYD... Who they think will watch Rebound at 2AM in the morning when no one watched it in the daytime?
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Old 30-12-2016, 19:55
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ITV should replace YBF with Celebrity Chase or Tipping Point Stars and push YBF earlier.


BTW, shocking that ITV have the Chase, Tipping Point then the turkey Rebound airing from 12:15AM NYD... Who they think will watch Rebound at 2AM in the morning when no one watched it in the daytime?
Insomniacs?............................. A ready-made cure. Well done, ITV.
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Old 30-12-2016, 19:59
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BTW, shocking that ITV have the Chase, Tipping Point then the turkey Rebound airing from 12:15AM NYD... Who they think will watch Rebound at 2AM in the morning when no one watched it in the daytime?
I highly doubt ITV put programming on at 2am in the hope of getting viewers. It's 2am - they'd chuck anything out there.
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Old 30-12-2016, 20:00
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The new Radio Times out today says that The Voice format has been tweaked by ITV.

More live shows than on the BBC (five this year) and a 'twist' that the judges will not get to see the act at all unless they press their buzzer to choose them.
We knew about the "twist" but we didn't know about the extra live shows. ITV are either very stupid or very arrogant - reckon they can turn around the poor ratings that The Voice gets for its live shows. Looking at how X Factor's ratings perform across a series these days, I don't rate their chances.
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Old 30-12-2016, 20:20
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We knew about the "twist" but we didn't know about the extra live shows. ITV are either very stupid or very arrogant - reckon they can turn around the poor ratings that The Voice gets for its live shows. Looking at how X Factor's ratings perform across a series these days, I don't rate their chances.
Apparently - or so Radio Times says anyhow - the extra live shows have been added so as to let the viewers get to know the contestants better.
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Old 30-12-2016, 20:26
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While we're on the subject of The Voice, here's how the previous launches did:

2012 - 8.43m (37.6%), * peak: 9.82m (43.4%)
2013 - 6.24m (26.9%), * peak: 8.15m (35.1%)
2014 - 8.37m (34.8%), * peak: 10.57m (42.6%)
2015 - 8.05m (35.9%), * peak: 9.2m (40.0%)
2016 - 7.12m (32.0%), * peak: 8.8m (38.3%)
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Old 30-12-2016, 20:34
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Apparently - or so Radio Times says anyhow - the extra live shows have been added so as to let the viewers get to know the contestants better.
Well that makes sense. The problem with TVUK, was the number of auditions compared to the live shows leading up to the final.

If you have too few LIVE shows, viewers don't care for the singers and therefore about the final.
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Old 30-12-2016, 20:43
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Apparently - or so Radio Times says anyhow - the extra live shows have been added so as to let the viewers get to know the contestants better.
I guess that makes sense. The Voice was one of those things that most people didn't really care who actually won. I guess it's more important to ITV that the winner goes on to bigger things, whereas the BBC didn't really care.
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Old 30-12-2016, 20:49
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I guess that makes sense. The Voice was one of those things that most people didn't really care who actually won. I guess it's more important to ITV that the winner goes on to bigger things, whereas the BBC didn't really care.
You say that, but it's accepted that Voice USA winners haven't gone on to great success, but the format has been considered successful.
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Old 30-12-2016, 20:54
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You say that, but it's accepted that Voice USA winners haven't gone on to great success, but the format has been considered successful.
Interesting. In the UK, it seems that the success of a singing show is defined by the success of its winners. The BBC had their hands tied with the winners of The Voice, simply because they couldn't promote them or their music. With ITV, the winner (and other contestants) will be on GMB, Lorraine, This Morning and Loose Women.
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Old 30-12-2016, 20:58
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While we're on the subject of The Voice, here's how the previous launches did:

2012 - 8.43m (37.6%), * peak: 9.82m (43.4%)
2013 - 6.24m (26.9%), * peak: 8.15m (35.1%)
2014 - 8.37m (34.8%), * peak: 10.57m (42.6%)
2015 - 8.05m (35.9%), * peak: 9.2m (40.0%)
2016 - 7.12m (32.0%), * peak: 8.8m (38.3%)
I think it will launch somewhere between 2013 and 2016.
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Old 30-12-2016, 20:58
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I think it'll get around 6m.
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Old 30-12-2016, 21:01
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Surprised at how well ED held up yesterday as well. Reminds me of when ED started halfway through Bake Off after Corrie Live and everyone said it would be a disaster but it held up remarkably well then as well. There's definite viewer loyalty there.

Potter continuing to do well even in a poor slot. No way it should be starting at 9pm. Spider-Man 2 is a poor film so no surprise it did poorly.
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Old 30-12-2016, 21:03
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You say that, but it's accepted that Voice USA winners haven't gone on to great success, but the format has been considered successful.
The format would be considered even more successful if they launched a new music star. It can only help the show, it might not add that many viewers but it can't hurt.
Having more live shows makes a lot of sense. Maybe they've got a new wrinkle for that stage of the format.

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I saw some of Sell or Swap programme - did people take the cash every time? Pretty basic flaw in the concept and there was no reason for the viewer to care. They'd be better off having only a swap option and then viewers get to agree or more likely disagree with their choice of swap.
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Old 30-12-2016, 21:05
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I think it will launch somewhere between 2013 and 2016.
No, it's definitely launching in 2017.
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Old 30-12-2016, 21:15
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I think the Christmas ratings have turned out differently than what anyone predicted. Everyone expected Harry Potter to rate poorly and for there to be a negative backlash.

Instead people seem to be enjoying the series, seem to treat it as a festive treat rather than a cheap slot filler, and not just doing well it is coming close if not beating the BBC.

BBC One will also be scratching their heads at why their festive specials have under performed so much this year, almost everything has rated lower than if they were held last week or next week.
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Old 30-12-2016, 21:19
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I think the Christmas ratings have turned out differently than what anyone predicted. Everyone expected Harry Potter to rate poorly and for there to be a negative backlash.

Instead people seem to be enjoying the series, seem to treat it as a festive treat rather than a cheap slot filler, and not just doing well it is coming close if not beating the BBC.

BBC One will also be scratching their heads at why their festive specials have under performed so much this year, almost everything has rated lower than if they were held last week or next week.
The break has done Potter the world of good. They suit this time of year as well. They should avoid airing them outside of Christmas again imo. Plus they are great films. I'll never really tire of watching them although now I've seen them all many times I've just found myself dipping in and out of the current ITV showings.
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Old 30-12-2016, 21:25
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I think the Christmas ratings have turned out differently than what anyone predicted. Everyone expected Harry Potter to rate poorly and for there to be a negative backlash.

Instead people seem to be enjoying the series, seem to treat it as a festive treat rather than a cheap slot filler, and not just doing well it is coming close if not beating the BBC.

BBC One will also be scratching their heads at why their festive specials have under performed so much this year, almost everything has rated lower than if they were held last week or next week.
I agree. There are quite a few people criticising ITV for lazy scheduling but does it really matter? They've done well enough and they've attracted the type of audience which they very much desire, plus they've been able to promote new programming to a 3-4m audience rather than 1-2m.

As for BBC One's festive specials underperforming, I think it's more to do with a shift in overall viewing more than anything, although poor scheduling in parts has also harmed it. Jonathan & Creek and Outnumbered were at least in line with the last series they both aired.
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Old 30-12-2016, 21:46
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The Potter films have clearly been a welcome treat for viewers.

However, do ITV take the risk of running them again next year and overexposing the brand or will they (more sensibly) give them next Christmas off?

I'm not sure which franchise could cover this week next year though. There's Star Wars, which is still a very popular and current brand. All the Star Wars films could lead up to the premiere of The Force Awakens on NYD.
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Old 30-12-2016, 22:02
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I agree. There are quite a few people criticising ITV for lazy scheduling but does it really matter?
That has been a lot milder than I expected though which shows that some people are treating them as a treat. ITV get more stick on DS if they air an extra episode of Coronation Street.

I wouldn't show Harry Potter every night, night after night again next year, I think that would be a bit too much. The daytime ones will definitely appear again though.
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Old 30-12-2016, 22:02
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I agree. There are quite a few people criticising ITV for lazy scheduling but does it really matter? They've done well enough and they've attracted the type of audience which they very much desire, plus they've been able to promote new programming to a 3-4m audience rather than 1-2m.

As for BBC One's festive specials underperforming, I think it's more to do with a shift in overall viewing more than anything, although poor scheduling in parts has also harmed it. Jonathan & Creek and Outnumbered were at least in line with the last series they both aired.
More and more its becoming a consolidation game. We cant fully judge the BBC line up until we know the final figures.
ITV though is entirely justified in scheduling Potter like this, however weird it looks to me from past perspective. Its simply their offering amongst scores of others, and no-one can justifiably say there is a lack of choice-because there is limitless choice these days-including obviously ITV's own other channels.
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Old 30-12-2016, 22:05
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That has been a lot milder than I expected though which shows that some people are treating them as a treat. ITV get more stick on DS if they air an extra episode of Coronation Street.

I wouldn't show Harry Potter every night, night after night again next year, I think that would be a bit too much. The daytime ones will definitely appear again though.
With no screenings before Christmas 2017 it might just work again, but perhaps not again and again and again.
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Old 30-12-2016, 22:20
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No, it's definitely launching in 2017.
It made me laugh!!
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