Hit of the Year
- The Great British Bake Off and Strictly Come Dancing stand out here. Particularly the latter which had its best series in five years. Bake Off achieved figures we won't see again in a long time.
- Honourable mentions to I'm a Celebrity, Happy Valley, The Night Manager and some of the earlier Britain's Got Talent ratings. Mrs Brown's Boys' live episode getting 8m consolidated considering it was plonked on a random Saturday in July.

Flop of the Year
- It has to be Beowulf but Bang on the Money runs it close.
- Honourable mentions to the relaunched Top Gear and Humans. The comedy revivals should have done better too.

New hit of the year
- Has to be Planet Earth II. Amazing ratings.
- The Durrells and Victoria did really well also - both show great potential.

Jaw-dropping rating of the year
- Strictly, Planet Earth II and I'm a Celebrity all getting 10m overnights on the same night was a real (although pleasant) surprise.
- Honourable mention to the rating for the Britain's Got Talent Final but not a massive surprise given the scheduling. The X Files getting 5m on Channel 5 is also a huge achievement.

Mystifying rating of the year
- The X Factor's rating for the second Saturday audition show (8.3m, 10.1m official) was a real shock and seemed to come out of nowhere. Yet couldn't come within 0.5m of it for the rest of the series.
- Honourable mention to Naked Attraction and the various sex shows on Channel 4. Attenborough and the Giant Dinosaur as well - even considering the slot I was surprised it did so well.

"So glad that flopped" of the year
- The various Channel 4 sex shows and Top Gear. It could have been better.
- Play to the Whistle - why do ITV keep giving it the BGT lead-in only to piss it away?

"Such a shame that flopped" of the year
- Not a flop as such but I'd have liked Outnumbered's Christmas Special to have been a bit higher.

Channel of the Year: BBC One. A really strong year for them. Honourable mention to ITV for having a much stronger year than last year, particularly on the drama front.

Captain America: The Winter Soldier is a great film but it's a sequel and also darker than Guardians or The Avengers.

I agree. ITV did well this Christmas and fairplay to them but they didn't make an effort, just stuck some Potter films on in prime time. This time they did better than the last time they were on due to a year off. It's what some viewers wanted though.

The Sun (eww) are reporting that ITV are pleased with the the response to Blankety Blank and are looking to commission a full series. Nothing's been signed yet but it seems likely.

The ratings were OK but nothing special. I'm slightly surprised, but on a night where expensive scripted content did no better perhaps they think a series can do decent business somewhere in the year. They should cut it to 45 minutes though, it felt dragged out at 60.

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Which, ironically, should mean there's a bigger audience for them when they come FTA. Those who were unwilling to fork out a tenner a ticket, babysitters, popcorn etc in theory should at least have enough of an interest to catch the film when it costs them nothing. Sobering to see this premiere beaten by Potter repeats.

Cap America films are far more consistent than Iron Man in terms of quality - IM2&3 are virtually unwatchable IMO salvaged purely because of RDJ's performance.

Does anyone know the AIs for EastEnders; Emmerdale and Coronation St?

im sorry WHAT? ok I will give you The First Avenger was not a strong movie, but Winter Solider and Civil War were massive. The reason this one did not do well on TV, is because all the fans have already seen it, 5 times and own it on DVD or Blu Ray or both.

I'd be inclined to wait for more than 'an ITV insider told the Sun' before putting any faith in the story.

First Avenger was a measly 370m USD
Winter Soldier was 714.4m USD
Civil War a whopping 1.132bn USD

Can't agree with the "wait until the consolidated numbers" post. Overnight numbers are still important.

If you overnight at 7 million, then chances are you might consolidate to 9/9.5 million.

But if the overnight number is 4 million then the roof in the consolidated numbers is 6 million at most.

A low overnight number != high timeshift

There is a niche nature even though they're the biggest, most popular movies out there. People who don't want to see them at the cinema are often keen not to see them at all. But that applies to SW or HP or even Bond.

Captain Philips had a goodish rating partly because few will have actually seen it. Oscar films might be better performers for this reason - especially as so many viewers of the BBC and ITV are over 55. More people might have watched the MCU on sky than on the BBC. Then there's the internet.

New normal.

$1.1bn is many things, but "niche" isn't one of them. There's no chance Civil War won't premiere on the main channel of whoever has the rights.

Avengers Assemble killed it the first two times it aired.

Personally I think they should get Bradley Walsh on board. He was excellent on Keep It In The Family, so I think he would thrive with this format.

I don't think David Walliams was as good as the show needed.

It was always getting a series realistically, the comments by Walliams during the show told us that. It probably has been seen by over 4m and the repeat might have another million. By Twitter standards, it did well.

Considering how poor the celebrities were - it was enjoyable enough. You need one or two funny celebrities in there.

6:30 - Blankety Blank
7:15 - BGT
8:00 - New show
9-9:45 - BGT part2.

That 8pm show could be a drama.

Winter Soldier made $260m/715m. That's very good but it's not blow the doors off - certainly not in America.

I said team up movies were blow the doors off movies, Cap3 is one and it made Avenger money.

For what do you propose that BGT scheduling? The live shows or the final? For the live shows, if they do intend on splitting it again it will be around Coronation Street. As for the final, they haven't split it since 2011 when they had:

19:00 - Britain's Got Talent
21:00 - Popstar to Operastar Launch Show
21:30 - Britain's Got Talent

You'd need to give at least 100 minutes for the final performances. I say that because in 2008 and 2009 they were scheduled for 105 minutes and they started late and finished early respectively.

If Blankety Blank goes to a series, I wouldn't put it on the same night as Britain's Got Talent (unless David Walliams ends up not hosting but I think that's quite unlikely at this point) as that would be Walliams overkill. Maybe it could do a decent job over the summer, paired up with All Star Family Fortunes (speaking of which, they ought to bring back after the near 2-year hiatus it has had).

Hit of the Year

- Has to be Planet Earth 2: Excellent overnight ratings and superb onsolidated ratings. And it makes me feel good, that so many viewers in the UK and worldwide watch this series, suggesting there are manypeople out there who respect our beautiful wildlife.
- Hourourable mentions go to: I'm A Celeb being up YOY despite the BBC placing more comp. against it. GBBO consolidating to 15m ans showing how 1 show can pull in so many viewers to terrestrial TV again. BGT and SCD still pulling in the viewers despite being in Soring where ratings are usually lower than Winter. The Night Manager & Happy Valley being over 9m and 10m.

Finally The Jonathan Ross Show - rating less than 2m in most cases, then a sudden jump over 3m closer to 4m.


Flop of the Year

ITV's pre TXF programming still being an absolute disaster zone (Meet The Parents & Go For It). Must Try Harder!
Honourable mentions go to: Top Gear, Bang On The Money (absolute rubbish) and Beowulf.


New hit of the year

Planet Earth II - Just superb. More please!

ITV drama improving their 6-8 part series: The Durrells - A new pre-watershed drama at last. Victoria beating Poldark, despite the latter being hyped up to the max.


Jaw-dropping rating of the year

Planet Earth II - 14m+ inc BBC Iplayer- nuff said.

Attenborough and the Giant Dinosaur

Frozen on BBC1 getting less than 5m

Mystifying rating of the year

Still Open All Hours still getting 7m+ overnights in January, despite being void of any comedy.


"So glad that flopped" of the year

Bang On The Money, Honey G's single, Meet The Parents, All Star Mr & Mrs, Top Gear.

"Such a shame that flopped" of the year

Although it didn't flop, The Durrells did loose more than 1m viewers from its launch despite being a great series. It started with 6.4m and ended under 5m. Hopefully in 2017 it can grow into ITV's own CTM sized hit.

Channel Of The Year

Well I think really it has to be BBC2 for me, just endging BBC1. The former has some excellent series which I very much enjoy: Marigold, Inside The Factory, nature series etc.

Horourable mentions to BBC1 for their continued varied schedule, and to ITV for improving their schedules and Christmas Schedule from the mess Fincham left ITV in.

Hit of the Year: Has to go to the Great British Bake off, most popular show in the UK by a distance and capable of pulling figures that we never thought we'd see again. If if the specials are an indication, it's going to die on Channel 4. (Also for the incredible drama it's move caused, that was a totally crazy period for the thread and like nothing I've ever seen on here)

Honourable Mentions: Strictly, Planet Earth 2, BGT and IAC.

Flop of the year: Light Entertainment commissioning departments- I was going to give this to ITV but the been are just as bad in not getting new formats off the ground. ITV have produced a string of dirt cheap rubbish that clogs up its weekend schedules and strands the few hits they have- Play to the Whistle, Bang on the Money, Meet the Parents etc .. have tanked and tanked hard. I hope their seemingly mini revival in 2017 actually happens.

Honourable Mentions: New Top Gear (Started badly and got worse), Channel 4's Drama output dying.

New hit of the year: The Crown (Netflix) For some reason this seems to have totally taken off amongst my friends and family and it is truly excellent- I know we don't get to see viewing figures for it but it's hit in a way another drama hasn't for me.

Honourable Mentions: The Night Manager, Victoria, Michael MacIntyre (For getting a new LE hit off the ground)

Jaw-dropping rating of the year: That GBBO final rating, Planet Earth 2 coming in way above anything expectations for it and (for different reasons) the continued fall of the X Factor.

Mistifying rating of the year: For me, this is countryfile, does insane figures for a throwaway magazine show and rates well wherever they plonk it on a Sunday Night. IACs continued dominance when it's the same year in year out can share this one.

So glad that flopped: Naked Attraction- A blinking awful concept that could have come straight out of an Alan Partridge brainstorm, it was even laughably executed and trash like this harms the 4 brand imo.

Honourable Mentions:

Such a shame that flopped: Most of the Sitcom Season, a lot of the revivals were pretty strong and there were a couple of pilots that probably deserved a run as well- The porridge series needs to be much better than its pilot or it'll be here next year.

Channel of the year: BBC one, they've had an exceptionally strong year, with lots of high quality content and have been rewarded with the lion's share of the ratings top spots. They had a rocky autumn winter some slightly iffy factual and drama but it's ha a great year. They also have some BBC two bug hitters joining them next year so they may well be able to mitigte the formats they've had poached.

I'm also going to give an extra award here for....

Online Format of the year: Netflix- Amazon may have splashed the cash on Clarkson and co, but it's Netflix that comes up trumps with a massive slate of original, bought in and co produced content that would rival any terrestrial TV channel. From massive big budget drama to top class other content it really is a force to be reckon with.

Worst channel of the year: Channel 4- I cannot think for the life of me what they've produced that's any good this year apart from National Treasure. Overexposure of taken and formats has also finally killed off some of their long-standing daytime hits. Primetime is is also in a mess with too much reliance on shock docs and ageing hits like Gogglebox. The money they spent on acquiring bake off could have improved a lot of their own output first without stealing another broadcasters hit. after a decent year last year it's back kn the doldrums. Surely Jay Hunt can't cling on much longer, I'd thought she'd have gone have gone for not securing Bake offs talent but she clings on like a bad smell

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On the point raised earlier about the new set not helping Coronation Street ratings.

It was, of course, built simply because the old set and Granada studios are being demolished. Indeed the studio itself right next to the set where I worked a lot in the 1980s is becoming an amazing futuristic arts centre and theatre named in honour of Granada star Tony Wilson.

This will be called The Factory (as in his record label) and looking like a real stunner of a building from the designs.

So they had no option but to build a new set at Salford Quays and the remains of the street right now beside the old studios looks very sad indeed.

Indeed they might consider writing in a Corrie disaster in which the garage accidentally installs a nuclear reactor and it goes wrong as the old set is ready made for shooting what would be the result.

They have designed the new Corrie set with greater space over the very confined Quay Street location well utilised. They have added new houses and streets and will be using these in 2017 with the extra weekly episode to expand the cast and include families living on those adjacent streets.

There doesn't seem to be parity for me when reporting the soaps with the ITV ones having the benefit of +1 when reporting overnights. Corrie overall offically consolidates the most but I do wonder about EE's overall reach and platforms that are not factored in BARB's figures.

Happy New Year everyone and enjoy the year ahead.

Oops, I don't tend to watch BGT and I forgot Walliams was on it.
I'd do that BGT split for the recorded auditions stage as a way of trying to launch a new show.

After we lost the DS ratings reports (including the soap ones too) in early January this year (which was arguably our main source for ratings) and with other sources drying up as well (MediaTel for example), I wasn't holding out much hope that this thread could continue in it's present form.

However, almost 12-months on since that happened, I'm relieved that this thread has continued to be very strong with ratings been posted by forum members every single day.

I just want to say a MASSIVE THANK YOU to everyone on this thread that contributes in one form or another with the ratings. It's much appreciated and I hope this thread can be as strong as ever as we move into 2017 (and let's hope for some big numbers too).

HAPPY NEW YEAR TO EVERYONE ON THE RATINGS THREAD!!