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The Ratings Thread (Part 68)
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LHolmes
31-12-2016
Originally Posted by Aaron_2015:
“I agree, the character development has been good. However, the bins storyline was pathetic, and led nowhere. What EE need to do is tell people the tension is picking up, and the bin storyline (and other crap storylines) is done.

What's strange about SOC is the lack of hints and teasers, there wasn't even a press conference when he joined.”

You rarely used to hear from the producer up until about ten years ago. It's only since then they've become more of a 'public face'. But tbh I'm glad SOC is playing his cards close to his chest as DTC's hype often led nowhere other than disappointment.
sunbeam007
31-12-2016
Originally Posted by LHolmes:
“To be fair a few users have been saying that about the week's overnights as a whole. It hasn't just come up about EastEnders

EastEnders is hardly the only programme to have posted underwhelming overnight ratings this week.

And I don't think you can compare the four, five and six times a week year round soaps to X Factor. EastEnders hasn't lost 10m+ viewers since 2010.”

Neither has XF. This comparing of peaks is just silly.
People didn't mock EE or Corrie or Dallas coz its ratings were 10m down on their one-off mega peaks. We did not judge Neighbours against how it did when Scott married Lenny.

If EE gets 6.3m on NYD it doesn't mean it's lost a third of its audience in 12 months.
Peter_Todd1
31-12-2016
Hi,
Does anybody have the ratings for Channel 4 Noel Edmonds Sell or swap from last night at 7pm.
Thanks.
Dan R
31-12-2016
Originally Posted by Aaron_2015:
“It's still not a fair comparison. Plus EE can bring in the viewers on special occasions, something X Factor can't do.”

Why are you now saying it's not a fair comparison? YOU'RE the one who unfairly attacked ADP (like you do all members of this community) comparing his defence of EE to his disdain for XF. Now you're saying EastEnders' decline is nothing like XF's, siding with ADP again. You change like the wind.
And besides, XF does bring viewers on occasions- final etc. Both shows do!
LHolmes
31-12-2016
Originally Posted by sunbeam007:
“Neither has XF.”

Not far off though looking at some of the Nov/Dec ratings for that year on BARB.

I wasn't the one who brought XF up. I've said (and nowhere near as much as others as I am not a regular contributor to the thread) that I think it's doing poorly but I'm not of the view ITV should axe it. It's numbers aren't yet that bad. The same is true of EastEnders. But since the soaps are now at 4-6 episodes per week it's harder for them to feel like event TV outside of anniversaries. XF has no such excuse and with better management post 2010 would've been holding up a lot better in 2016.

EastEnders could perk up now the rebuilding process is pretty much complete and drama (of the proper variety and not the cartoon sort the last EP gave us in the second half of his tenure) has returned to the show. It might not but it won't be axed at 5.5m.

I still think the new boss came in with the right approach as I barely cared about any of the characters four or five months ago.
Aaron_2015
31-12-2016
Originally Posted by Dan R:
“Why are you now saying it's not a fair comparison? YOU'RE the one who unfairly attacked ADP (like you do all members of this community) comparing his defence of EE to his disdain for XF. Now you're saying EastEnders' decline is nothing like XF's, siding with ADP again.
And besides, XF does bring viewers on occasions- final etc. Both shows do!”

Completely different situations, as you full well know.

Given how everybody else on this thread has said it's an unfair comparison, I don't think I'm being hypocritical.

Finally, unlike you and ADP I'm not agenda driven, so every post I make is not blighted by my viewpoint. I'm not taking anybody's "side", this is not a playground argument.

I also take exception to the fact I attack every member.
sunbeam007
31-12-2016
Originally Posted by LHolmes:
“Not far off though looking at some of the Nov/Dec ratings for that year on BARB.

I wasn't the one who brought XF up. I've said (and nowhere near as much as others as I am not a regular contributor to the thread) that I think it's doing poorly but I'm not of the view ITV should axe it. It's numbers aren't yet that bad. The same is true of EastEnders. But since the soaps are now at 4-6 episodes per week it's harder for them to feel like event TV outside of anniversaries. XF has no such excuse and with better management post 2010 would've been holding up a lot better in 2016.

EastEnders could perk up now the rebuilding process is pretty much complete and drama (of the proper variety and not the cartoon sort the last EP gave us in the second half of his tenure) has returned to the show. It might not but it won't be axed at 5.5m.

I still think the new boss came in with the right approach as I barely cared about any of the characters four or five months ago.”

XF had 17m in 2010 and then came back in 2011 to, I don't know, 11m. So we might as well say it lost 6m viewers from one episode to the next. It was an abnormal peak, a one-off like Who Shot JR? and pollutes the sample.

That's not to say these shows don't have problems, they clearly do. Both EE and XF might be entering their winters.

BTW - people are going to have real fun with GBBO and its lost 10m viewers!

....

I'm not surprised that WoS Wrestling is trending 3rd <edit, trending 1st> or that many wrestling fans have liked it. However, I expected it to get plenty of hate too because, well it's the internet, most people dislike wrestling and many wrestling fans are too cool for school and will turn their nose up at British wrestling.

Seems I was wrong. The response is exceptionally positive, weirdly so. Whether that's enough to persuade itv that the 1m rating is okay I don't know. I can't imagine itv gets more than 1m at 4pm on a Saturday anyway so maybe it'll be fine, especially if they can export it.

ITV must be thrilled with the #worldofsport tag.
gavin shipman
31-12-2016
6.8m for Corrie?? It's dreadful. I hope EE timeshifts well for Christmas week especially last night as its been the best soap on TV.
Dan R
31-12-2016
Originally Posted by gavin shipman:
“6.8m for Corrie?? It's dreadful. I hope EE timeshifts well for Christmas week especially last night as its been the best soap on TV.”

Let me guess...tomorrows rating will be way over 24m/??
Dan R
31-12-2016
Happy (slightly early) New Year to the Ratings Thread on Digital Spy! May 2017 bring you prosperity, happiness, optimism, security and safety. And big ratings for the shows you love.
RickLopez
31-12-2016
Originally Posted by gavin shipman:
“6.8m for Corrie?? It's dreadful. I hope EE timeshifts well for Christmas week especially last night as its been the best soap on TV.”

You keep saying you hope EE will get big ratings but the evidence, sadly, is that it isn't.

And if that's bad for Corrie, what about the EE figure. How bad is that?
Dan R
31-12-2016
Originally Posted by Dan R:
“Let me guess...tomorrows rating will be way over 24m/?? ”

Is there even a show on today to get ratings for tomorrow? If not, then I'll mean the rtings for tomorrow's show (i.e. arriving Monday morning).
Aaron_2015
31-12-2016
Hope everybody has a fantastic New Year, be merry and have a great night! 🍾

Here's to more great ratings in 2017! 🥂🍾
Dan R
31-12-2016
Originally Posted by Aaron_2015:
“Hope everybody has a fantastic New Year, be merry and have a great night! 🍾

Here's to more great ratings in 2017! 🥂🍾”

Happy New Year!!
Aaron_2015
31-12-2016
Originally Posted by Dan R:
“Happy New Year!! ”

Have a good one 🥂🍾 😀
Fudd
31-12-2016
Originally Posted by Dan R:
“Is there even a show on today to get ratings for tomorrow? If not, then I'll mean the rtings for tomorrow's show (i.e. arriving Monday morning).”

None of the big three aired today.
Dan R
31-12-2016
Originally Posted by Fudd:
“None of the big three aired today. ”

Ah, I see. The channels are to obusy showing Dragons' Den compilations, Robbie Williams prancing about and whatever ITV are showing.

Bring back Jason Manford's A Funny Old year.
JCR
31-12-2016
Originally Posted by Dan R:
“Is there even a show on today to get ratings for tomorrow? If not, then I'll mean the rtings for tomorrow's show (i.e. arriving Monday morning).”

You know very well we need to know what the wrestling got.
Hassaan13
31-12-2016
Originally Posted by Dan R:
“Ah, I see. The channels are to obusy showing Dragons' Den compilations, Robbie Williams prancing about and whatever ITV are showing.

Bring back Jason Manford's A Funny Old year.”

I see no reason why they would. Even on New Year's Eve, ITV's showing of the final Harry Potter film will do far better than that ever did.
Dan R
31-12-2016
Originally Posted by Hassaan13:
“I see no reason why they would. Even on New Year's Eve, ITV's showing of the final Harry Potter film will do far better than that ever did.”

But it's about NYE spirit, not some numbers on a spreadhseet for this one day a year. It was an amazing way to look back at 12 months in news and popular culture and it was a real revelation as far as TV was concerned IMO.
Hassaan13
31-12-2016
Originally Posted by Dan R:
“But it's about NYE spirit, not some numbers on a spreadhseet for this one day a year. It was an amazing way to look back at 12 months in news and popular culture and it was a real revelation as far as TV was concerned IMO.”

In your opinion. It didn't seem to connect with viewers though so I wasn't surprised they ditched it - the fact it even went out on New Year's Eve year after year getting 2m suggests they didn't have great faith in it. From what I saw of it, it seemed like a poorer version of similar topical shows such as Mock the Week, The Last Leg, Charlie Brooker etc (which arguably did the review of the year best). It's not an ITV thing as I liked Newzoids.
H of De Vil
31-12-2016
Originally Posted by gavin shipman:
“6.8m for Corrie?? It's dreadful. I hope EE timeshifts well for Christmas week especially last night as its been the best soap on TV.”

Actually I thought Corrie wasn't too bad last night

EastEnders will never not be the best soap to you, so I don't see if EE dropped in quality, your viewpoint changing.
H of De Vil
31-12-2016
Happy New Year
Baz_James
31-12-2016
Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“Happy New Year ”

You say that every year. It never is!
TORPIDO 1
31-12-2016
Thought there would be a better place than this to mention it but a suggestion of a change temporary or not is coming after midnight
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