Why should they retire it when it gets 5.5m regularly? What other programme could get those figures week after week in that slot?

Also, many people love Antiques Roadshow. It's an hour of cosy nostalgia which I see nothing wrong with.

I think Taboo looks excellent, and I think it'll launch well. This is where the BBC for me are pushing the boat out. Its a risk scheduling it on Saturday, and its makes the schedule look more interesting than another episode of Pointless, bland talent show, lottery and Casualty.

I'm alright with it being there as it doesn't seem to affect other shows very much if at all. It's just there, doing its thing, its audience kind of in their own bubble (not in a bad way).

I think it has a big effect on the Sunday schedule and is part of the reason the BBC dominates Sunday nights. It links very well with Countryfile with the same audience and then sets up the 9pm drama nicely.

To its credit, Ninja Warrior UK does increase its audience throughout the episode. Leading into TVUK it should manage 3-5-4m next week.

Last night also shows how much better off ITV were showing the Harry Potter than orginal programming. Seemingly, normal programming just gets lost on ITV, but I film can pick up casual viewers with its long run time.

Also I notice 3.2m watched the rpt of the Christmas Special of MBB despite it having already been repeated only a couple of days ago. It wasn't even that good an episode. What were you saying ADP, about ITV repeating programing so soon after first broadcast? I imagine this episode will repeated again in the New Year

Sometimes you have to take some of the posts here with a pinch of salt especially from those who never say anything good about the BBC anyway.

But the new BBC1 idents are appalling. What were they thinking?!

I know the Christmas ones came in for a rough time but even they were better than this.

I don't know why anyone would think it was odd at all. It's simple common sense. Programmes on BBC2 are usually broadcast at the same time as popular programming on BBC1. When Bake Off was on BBC2 it was shown at the same time as Holby which was getting five million viewers itself. When it was on BBC1 it was opposite something on BBC2 that was getting about 10% of that audience. It's no surprise more people found it and more people chose it to the opposition. It was also hammocked between two other popular programmes, again not the case on BBC2. How is any of that a surprise? It's not any kind of trick or cheat. It's blindingly obvious.

Along similar lines, I do hope last night's Match of the Day will stop the "The Premier League is only allowed to be shown on BBC1" theory that is endlessly trotted out on here. For at least five minutes.

I don't think they are that bad, but surely being the BBC and the biggest broadcaster in the world. To celebrate being such a British institution, they should have idents that celbrate the best landmarks in the UK: Stone Henge, Houses of Parliament, Hever Castle, The Angel of the North, The Lake District etc..

These would be so much more fitting with the BBC brand.

Neil_N clearly doesn't understand how television ratings work and also that Antiques Roadshow is cheap as chip to make so it's cost effective programming.

It wouldn't be against live football, it'd be against Final Score which is very different. Also there are few matches on BT bigger than LFC V MC.

A one hour programme at 4pm on a Saturday pulling in 1.25m people will be fine for ITV. Yes they could run it on 4 or 2 instead and repeat it at 23:30 in midweek on itv, they've plenty of options.

They've got ITV Box Office soon and if they want to make money, this will be probably do it. All indications are that itv are not messing about here. They've spooked Vinny and Trips.

Given recent history, the only way they're showing the Houses of Parliament would be in flames!!!

They should have brought back the balloon. I still miss that.

I never took to the dance ones and the circle ones were only good before they butchered them in May 2009.

your posts frequently lambaste BBC channels for being 'too posh', 'too old' and 'too middle class' and constantly call for shows you don't like for that reason to be scrapped.

You'd be much happier - and so would we - if you stuck to ITV 2.

Personally re MBB I think they repeat it far too often or quickly, it's on IPlayer and they could have filled that with new programming by moving a few things around.
Re Harry Potter, no one has shown any justification for ITV to show HP every night, its rated poorly in my view, the ITV soaps if in would do better. It was lazy and cheap filler and should have been on in the afternoons or late night.

Agree, there is a niche group here who do not like the BBC and will hound in on anyone with any positive comments on BBC shows.

Some clearly have overt agendas - some a bit more covert, praising new ITV programmes at any point, but knocking BBC shows.

BBC indents, do not rush to criticism too early.

World of Sport Wrestling doesn't seem cost effective if it's only doing 1m+ when Thunderbirds are Go which has international sales does about the same and repeats do better

But surely BBC1 should be serving all sections of society? Defining social classes is hard but when I studied it the opinion was that approximately 50% of the population was 'middle-class' and that it was only going to increase its lead over 'working-class'.

And I'm afraid I was doing my studies quite a few years ago.

Let's be honest, shows about baking and ballroom dancing are hardly the stuff of working-men's clubs.

Well, the later films can't be shown in the afternoons. They shouldn't be shown at late night either. They have a loyal, young audience so why shouldn't they be aired in primetime?

I still don't understand why ITV showing the Harry Potter films bothers you so much.


Swap BBC with ITV and the same comments can be made, so it's swings and roundabouts.

The thing is, like Harry Potter, MBB repeats well, so the BBC repeats it. Harry Potter on ITV repeats well, so they repeat it.

I don't see how you think Harry Potter hasn't done well, when you stated after the Christmas schedules were revealed that it would only et a default 2m - and yet all of them have done 1m+ more than that]. The 5th film did 4.1m and won most of its slot. Bar last night, all the others have won a good 80% of their slots.

If that's not doing well, then I don't knoe what is, especially when you look at the BBC's ratings when its all been orginal programming. Its not like orginal ITV programming would do better over several days, over 3hrs.

The thread started in the Broadcasting forum, actually has more postive comments on ITV showing Harry Potter than negative - so I think that justifies ITV's thinking.

Anyway lets forget this HP discussion because I think we've gone as far as we can go with it. before it gets tedious.

Rather unnecessary.

It's cheap to make. They'll do a 12 week run in a few days. Only JR will cost much from a talent point of view.
They're also looking to monetise it.

It could fit around Thunderbirds. What sort of ratings did TAG get?

Shame BBC1 ditched the circles. An excellent package that stood the test of time. The new set is very ITV, dare I say worse than ITV's set so far.

I miss the balloons personally. They could have revived that concept for the modern age.

Happy New Year to everyone.

It got 2.2m (17.3%) for its first episode which aired between 5-6pm on Easter Saturday 2015.

I think everybody here can appreciate the irony of this little rant. 😂😂

Are the crap BBC idents we've seen so far going to change somehow then? Despite your agenda ADP, you've got to admit they are rubbish.

Just to ask Let it Shine is a kind of musical show isnt it?

Ideally, Cowell would be out of the press for three months, to give fans a break before the new series of Talent goes to air.