The premiere of The Dark Knight on NYD 2015 only got 2.9m against EE and Mrs Brown. Up against Sherlock I can't imagine a (slightly) less popular film getting more than the 2.5m M&W got. Plus they probably couldn't start it until 9pm.

Love of Dogs would have done better than Diversity but I'm glad it's on Tuesday as I'm interested to see what it gets there.

As I mentioned yesterday Maigret would probably have been better on NYD than Christmas Day, or even Ninja Warrior & Deathly Hallows from NYE. But it's just one of those things, NYD hasn't been particularly strong for ITV for a while. I imagine it'll be better next year though as it falls on a Monday, so presumably it'll be Corrie into a drama.

That looks very low for the horse racing, although I don't know what they'd have expected. Terrible for the Ninja Warrior repeat too, I am very interested to see how it does next week.

EastEnders has seen its consolidated ratings tumble. It's in trouble in terms of ratings.

Sherlock had the same person as Doctor Who in charge who needs sacking.

Yes Maigret would probably have been the better option, and I suspect might have nudged 4m last night.

I did orginally say ITV should have NWUK on NYD, but for some reason they chose to throw away a hit, for a flop coming a mile off.

So you don't think they'll show a big film on NYD next year?

Will we get any consolidated ratings today? It'll be interesting to see the Christmas Day increases

Not just difficult, impossible!!

Those figures are 100% external devices. AFAIA BARB have never given a breakdown in their consolidated figures of what is timeshifted using a PVR and what is streamed or downloaded with on demand apps or connected devices.

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Do you know the viewing figures for the PDC World darts championship semi final yesterday

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I understand your opinion, I do not agree, Danny Boy has been acting superbly recently before his upcoming exit. The switch off is more to do with EE ending early.

Not any "Excuse" but facts, that you confirm. It would seem some people here still judge TV by their oen lifestyles. You read EE should be good against weak opposition, but many people were out as it was a bank holiday.

Example:- some posters here on this thread or in DS forum seem to be on the forum posting 24/7 and seem to expect everyone else to be on 24/7, this is not true life, most have other social commitments friends family hobbies. These posters then overlay their lifestyle of being online Day and night, with watching TV to a predetermined schedule.

Many series link EE, Many catch up, as IPlayer is showing already. Yes Sherlock got 8 million we know that will go to ten million odd on catch up, as people had commitments last night.

It was a bank holiday weekend, many went out, invited to parties , your not going to say, I can't go, I want to watch EE, they know they can catch up.

There is, and has been, a massive over reaction here to " Overnight" ratings, the consolidated and IPlayer figures are far more reflective.

This thread has taken strange directions over the holidays, from over praise of old movie reruns that seem to be wonderful at 3/4 million, and fantasy movie schedules for three days, to some saying cancel the EE redevelopment.

EE is popular, people catch up on it, the average was lower as it finished early, common sense tells people that.

Not any " excuse" some think, bank holidays and sunny weather are valid excuses for certain LE shows.

People do not watch TV to scheduling by programme planners as much as they did, they have choice. They record, catch up, etc, IPlayer shouldn't be knocked down as an excuse. It's fact it's a way of life, as people " have lives" and do not sit in front of a TV all dsy snymore, or sit in front of a Internet monitor all day nowadays. They do things when it suits them.

How do you sack someone from their own TV show? And what for? Both Doctor Who and Sherlock are strong ratings performers. Because some people on the internet don't like them?

Of course Corrie and Emmerdale generally manage to balance the serious aspects of their storylines with popular comic characters, which on the whole maintains rating consistency. Eastenders can hardly be accused of such practices, but maybe they need to flesh out their subplots and minor characters?

But gets more than X Factor where it's lost 50% of its audience and praised here, or Harry Potter is praised at 2.8> 4 million.

This thread has serious double standards.

Yes ALL soaps have been falling, and all soaps go up and down with storylines and changes of executive producers.

It doesn't get more than X Factor for a start. X Factor averaged 7.6m in 2016, I doubt EastEnders was higher than that. The Harry Potter films were repeats that have been on many times before, very different to first run content.

Hopefully! They're definitely out but I'm not sure if we'll see them today. It will be very interesting to see where Christmas Day (and Eve) ended up.

..I honestly don't know what to say.

Are you really that biased that you cannot see how flawed your post is? You even contradict yourself.

"Many people were out as it was a bank holiday"

"Yes Sherlock got 8 million"

..and yet EE can only manage...6.3m?

If so many viewers were out last night, then why did Sherlock get 8m and EE get 8m+ last year but not this year?

I'll remember this post the next time you accuse anyone on this thread of having a knee-jerk reaction.

As it is, EastEnders is down over 2m from NYD last year. That can't be entirely down to it being a bank holiday. You didn't use the New Year's Eve excuse for Harry Potter the other night. I don't recall you using the Bank Holiday excuse for The X Factor either.

BIB 1: I don't recall any comments suggesting this. Who said this?

BIB 2: You're the one who seemingly has an obsession with ITV re-running Harry Potter. No one said the ratings were wonderful either. Just not a massive disaster considering they were film repeats.

Apart from Miranda, Is anyone under 90 still interested in Morcombe and Wise?

I'm not sure. It will depend on what drama is getting the Monday slot in early 2018 and whether they want to launch it on NYD. Or alternatively it could be another Maigret. A movie premiere could work very well too though. They could have just the one Corrie at 7.30pm into Spectre at 8pm, for instance.

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Which you seem to be an expert in.

The X Factors ratings have not been praised at all. They've been derided this whole past series for being poor.

Well, quite. The FM will be pleased to know that Steven Moffat has announced he's off (not sacked) and Chris 'Broadchurch' Chibnall is taking over this year, with his first series going before the camera in the Summer for Spring 2018 broadcast. eta I mean Who there, obviously!

Btw, think I'm right in saying that the 3 top rated Dramas for the festive period are 1)Sherlock 2) Call in the Midwife and 3) Doctor Who!

and the prize for the daftest comment of today goes to....

Yes.

As we were talkng about this earlier last week, if ITV is likely to have Spectre and Jurassic World I think the film would mop up many viewers on any of these days.

So next year they'll have Victoria 90minutes, Maigret 120min and the two films potentially.

Christmas Eve - Spectre (I think given how well the last Bond did here, they'll put Spectre here also)
Christmas Day - Victoria
Boxing Day - Maigret
NYD - Jurassic World

I had no idea the Diversity thing was a pilot. I didn't see it so I don't know if it was good or what the AI was like. If the AI was positive they should give it a 6 episode run in an early weekend slot (6pm ish). I assume it was not an expensive production.

This idea that you cancel new shows after an initial failure is deeply flawed. You aren't going to find many instant hits, neither channel finds them now. The BBC at least has BBC2 to do spadework for it.

3m is now a perfectly acceptable overnight, soon 2.5m will be. Now if Diversity was rubbish, well that's clearly a different matter.

Awful for the BBC. Their big shows are starting to faulter. Sad to think last year EE was getting 7+ overnights in Jan. Now it can't even scrape 6 million.

Has to be remembered also that Corrie is down on last year. All the soaps are declining. My thinking is that SOC will slow that decline compared to the others as he creates a more familiar soap for long term viewers. Hence the BBC not being concerned about the decline in the short run.

I have a couple of rough Christmas Day ratings.

It was tight at the top but looks like Call The Midwife edged the win with just over 9m, Doctor Who was around 7.8m. Sadly that's all I have.