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Interesting facts on the Leaders Debate, average age who watch the channels:
BBC1/2- 62 years old ITV- 60 years old CH4- 55 years old E4- 42 years old CH5- 58 years old I was stunned by this. And they always harp on about 16-34 being so important but they seem impossible to achieve, I honestly thought C4 would be around 33, CH5 around 29 and E4 around 25. BBC1/2 doesn't surprise me, i thought ITV would be much younger too. ![]() Also 3m of the 10.4m who watched GBBO were 16-34 which is incredible for BBC. ITV has a lot of drama with pulls up the average audience age. Despite IAC, TXF, BGT ITV show about 80% more drama content (including soaps) which skews older. With TVUK on ITV next year, the average audience might drop a bit, and BBC will rise. Although it will probably be a mimimal change. |
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I think them giving a 2nd series to Borderline is actually a good sign, it means they're willing to give stuff a chance to grow. Like I said, I'm fairly sure they're eyeing it for a move to Spike. Suspects had Fay Ripley anchoring it until she left to do Cold Feet, so I don't think it's a case of them not wanting to pay for talent.
With Borderline though the main talent - Ralf Little - was behind the camera only, which I'd argue wasn't especially helpful in (groans all round) getting it off the ground. |
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And I think Fay's involvement is one of the main reasons why Suspects rated quite well first time around. Incidentally now she's no longer involved and it lacks a big name it's not doing so well. Could be a coincidence, equally might not be!
With Borderline though the main talent - Ralf Little - was behind the camera only, which I'd argue wasn't especially helpful in (groans all round) getting it off the ground. |
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I find it quite interesting that the C4 controller as a response to whether TFI Friday was ever going to come back... she answered back a resounding "no"
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Just watched Charlotte Moore's interview at the TV Festival. She didn't reassure me at all regarding Bake Off. When asked if it was the last series on the BBC, she said "I just want the viewers to enjoy the new series which has a great cast and is fantastic!".
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Just watched Charlotte Moore's interview at the TV Festival. She didn't reassure me at all regarding Bake Off. When asked if it was the last series on the BBC, she said "I just want the viewers to enjoy the new series which has a great cast and is fantastic!".
I'm sure all the talent in front of the camera will move over. Mel and Sue are no strangers to itv; Paul Hollywood has made shows for the Food Network, so is no stranger to commercial television. Not sure about Mary Berry. Watching the show last night, you can easily see where they could slot in commercial breaks. |
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That's surely a cue it's moving to itv.
Mel and Sue are no strangers to itv; Paul Hollywood has made shows for the Food Network, so is no stranger to commercial television. Not sure about Mary Berry. Watching the show last night, you can easily see where they could slot in commercial breaks. |
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Just watched Charlotte Moore's interview at the TV Festival. She didn't reassure me at all regarding Bake Off. When asked if it was the last series on the BBC, she said "I just want the viewers to enjoy the new series which has a great cast and is fantastic!".
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That doesn't sound great, moving it to a commercial broadcaster would kill the show
More odd is how the Love Productions franchise - "Sewing Bee", "Pottery Throwdown" - is going to fit elsewhere but they're probably just seen as small change for Love. |
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That's surely a cue it's leaving the BBC. Classic evasion. .
What are you expecting her to say? "Im really desperate to keep it" "I'll pay whatever they demand of me" "Pls don't go to ITV, I'm begging you" |
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I'm not sure it would. As I said above, watching the show in its current guise, you can easily see where the commercial breaks would come. I imagine Love Productions are salivating at the prospect of earning millions from on air sponsorship deals with national supermarkets also.
More odd is how the Love Productions franchise - "Sewing Bee", "Pottery Throwdown" - is going to fit elsewhere but they're probably just seen as small change for Love. |
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Oh I wish it was going to ITV (it won't) just to see the meltdown from Jay...
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I couldn't stand to watch it with commercial breaks the natural flow of the show would be ruined. I'd be gutted if it moved
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Dawn French is to host Big Little Shots for ITV4
http://www.itv.com/presscentre/press...-big-shots-itv ITV has also commissioned Harry Hill's Fun Capsule for 2017 http://www.itv.com/presscentre/press...en-fun-capsule Its good to see ITV use other presenters outside of the usual. Vernon Kay looks to be out of the running on ITV. |
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She is in the middle of a multi million pound contract negotiation. Including all the spin offs, pottery throw down, sewing bee etc You're talking at least £65m over 3 years. Do you know anything about negotiating?
What are you expecting her to say? "Im really desperate to keep it" "I'll pay whatever they demand of me" "Pls don't go to ITV, I'm begging you" I'm not sure about a meltdown but I do think the BBC would be stupid to so readily give up such a hugely successful show that they've helped to build up. I know it's not everyone's cup of tea and the BBC has to do what is ultimately right for the licence fee payer but still. |
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It won't move, how many British homegrown ongoing series move channels?
Yes The Voice moved, but that doesn't open the doors for every show on TV to move channels. The Voice was always more controversial being on the BBC in any case and they did end up owning the production company. It's just a load of tabloid talk and faux outrage. |
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I wouldn't watch it if it moved either. And if Mel and Sue moved with it, I'd be furious, considering how much they told the Government that the BBC is the be all and end all when it comes to broadcasters.
Mel & Sue did a chat show on ITV not the BBC. So it does suggests they are willing to move channels. |
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No. But equally she could have said "It would be unwise of me to comment at the present time because we're in the middle of negotiations." Moore's comment was more of the waving-the-white-flag, "enjoy it while it lasts" variety, as if the BBC has walked away.
"Well, we are currently in negotiations (which sounded more like a mumble - and she didn't look comfortable) but, I just want viewers to enjoy the new series, which has a great cast and is fantastic!" |
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She is in the middle of a multi million pound contract negotiation. Including all the spin offs, pottery throw down, sewing bee etc You're talking at least £65m over 3 years. Do you know anything about negotiating?
What are you expecting her to say? "Im really desperate to keep it" "I'll pay whatever they demand of me" "Pls don't go to ITV, I'm begging you" Of course it won't move. Like you say, it's part of a bigger deal and ITV wouldn't want all the other shows like Pottery Throwdown. It's a very different situation to The Voice. Speaking of ITV, I've really liked what I've seen/heard from Kevin Lygo over the past day or two. Sounds like he wants to try lots of new things and shake up the schedule. Of course they're will be flops along the way but nice to see some energy there. He confirmed that Dawn French will be hosting the UK version of Little Big Shots. |
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A bit more on what Ben Frow (C5) had to say at the TV Fest, via Broadcast: Quote:
He indicated he was preparing a further push into scripted programming and revealed the channel had ordered a drama to air next year, declaring "now is the time to jump into the pool of scripted drama." Sounds good. Looking forward to hearing more about the scripted drama. Also, a plea to the indies:Other C5 commissions including two natural history documentary series A Year in the Wild of Alaska (4x60) and The Dales and Moors: A Year in the Wild (4x60), both of which are co-productions from Tigress Productions and GroupM Entertainment and will air next year. A 3 x 60-minute docu-drama focussing on the life of Queen Elizabeth I from Oxford Film and TV is also in the pipeline. Quote:
Frow called for more pitches for 8pm and 9pm slots and revealed plans to shift acquisitions into a later 10pm slot. http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/news/b...ontentID=43808
"The returnable 8pm or 9pm show is the hardest thing to find on TV. I have been asking for those for the last three budget rounds and I've had very little," he said. "It's very hard to get them." |
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Has Kevin Lygo been asked why he's added an extra episode of Corrie despite YOY declines still. Usually at these things, the TV bosses use the excuse that the reason they've upped the no of episodes is because the show has increased in ratings. But Corrie is still going down. Its lost about 2m from 2013.
Its the most stupid time ITV could have greenlit a sixth ep of Corrie |
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A bit more on what Ben Frow (C5) had to say at the TV Fest, via Broadcast:
Sounds good. Looking forward to hearing more about the scripted drama. Also, a plea to the indies: http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/news/b...ontentID=43808 |
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ITV could easily take the pottery/sewing spin offs and put them on ITV 3.
Even if Bake Off bombs on ITV, they will have succeeded in destroying the BBC's biggest show. Will be very, very sad to see that happen but ITV certainly have the money.
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Has Kevin Lygo been asked why he's added an extra episode of Corrie despite YOY declines still. Usually at these things, the TV bosses use the excuse that the reason they've upped the no of episodes is because the show has increased in ratings. But Corrie is still going down. Its lost about 2m from 2013.
Its the most stupid time ITV could have greenlit a sixth ep of Corrie |
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Ben Frow's full Meet The Controller session has now been uploaded here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srU0ZT8-SD4 Quote:
He's right. Every time we pitch shows we almost never pitch an 8pm show, it's a weird thing because it's kind of halfway between "family" and "adult" telly, so you're a bit limited to what you can do. That's why most indies (or at least the one I work for) pitch for 9pm shows. Having said that, Waterloo Road was a big success and Channel 4 have just commissioned a new returning drama at 8pm called 'The ABC' so maybe things are changing.
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