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Well that's good to see. A bit of +1 and a lot of itvHD (I still am amazed that so many don't watch in HD). This could consolidate to 5.5m and hold next week with no EE effect.

The Telegraph liked it.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/0/unf...mpressive/amp/
Most critics liked it last year too, got a BAFTA nomination for Supporting Actor. Was a 4m show with lesser competition in 2015 so it's good that it held its audience.
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E4 (Top 3: 7pm-11.30pm):
Hollyoaks: 0.72m (3.6%)
Brooklyn Nine-Nine (9pm): 0.52m (2.2%)
Brooklyn Nine-Nine (9.30pm): 0.47m (2.0%)
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Rzt has these ratings for last night.

Inc +1
Food Diet Show thing: 3.26m (14.8%)
Blimey. If even rzt doesn't know the name of it, we're in trouble. Says it all about the generic nature of ITV factual!

Kind of glad it bombed. Diet shows in January that don't even have the decency to offer a new angle are as lazy as it gets.
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Blimey. If even rzt doesn't know the name of it, we're in trouble. Says it all about the generic nature of ITV factual!

Kind of glad it bombed. Diet shows in January that don't even have the decency to offer a new angle are as lazy as it gets.
New Year diet programmes are a blight on television. The same old, same old lazy ideas. Sky have got one too. Not on my television.
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Great for DIP. I guess the EE lead-in helped it a bit.

The numbers this week puts the poor festive overnights in context. Many viewers can't be arsed same day viewing when they can do other things and catch up at leisure.

The universe has changed.

Have I missed any more festive officials? Only seen the ones for Xmas Eve and Day.
Barb have updated up to Christmas Day. We'll have to wait until Monday to see Boxing Day to New Year's Day.
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BBC2 (Top 3: 7pm-11.10pm):
Yellowstone: 1.75m (7.6%)
Rick Stein's Long Weekends (R): 1.72m (8.4%)
The Great Interior Design Challenge: 1.67m (7.6%)
Channel 4 (Top 3: 7pm-12.0) (exc. +1):
The Restoration Man: 1.46m (6.6%)
Spies: 0.85m (3.7%)
Channel 4 News: 0.57m (2.8%)
Channel 5 (Top 3: 7pm-11.5pm) (exc. +1):
Celebrity Big Brother: 1.73m (7.5%)
Bargain-Loving Brits in the Sun: 0.87m (4.0%)
Get Your Tatts Out: Kavos Ink: 0.67m (4.3%)
BBC4 (Top 3: 7pm-12.0):
Natural World: Killer Whales: Beneath the Surface (R): 0.64m (2.9%)
Sword, Musket and Machine Gun: Britain's Armed History: 0.48m (2.1%)
The Greatest Knight: William the Marshal (R): 0.29m (1.9%)
Thanks Ray.

Solid for BBC2, Spies underwhelmed and not bad for Celebrity Big Brother. BBC4 was BBC4.
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[quote=cylon6;85069336]Rzt has these ratings for last night.

Inc +1
Emmerdale: 6.90m (33.6%)
Food Diet Show thing: 3.26m (14.8%)
Unforgotten: 4.32m (18.6%)

EastEnders: 6.77m (30.7%)
Death in Paradise: 6.71m (29.0%)

Thanks.

4.3m for Unforgotten is 10% more than I expected. The Halcyon and Unforgotten have done pretty well against two of BBC1's biggest hitters. With no Happy Valley I'm not sure what other 9pm dramas BBC1 have that overnight over 6m.

3.26m for the Diet Show against EE is a bit of a stunner. These shows do pull in similar numbers on BBC1 so maybe itv has some default magic dust too.

Blimey. If even rzt doesn't know the name of it, we're in trouble. Says it all about the generic nature of ITV factual!

Kind of glad it bombed. Diet shows in January that don't even have the decency to offer a new angle are as lazy as it gets.
I saw a few minutes of it, it seemed to be a food nutrition show - some might call it PSB. Over 3m v EE is pretty good, no?
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From ITV Media:

Thursday Top 10: Main channels (inc. +1 where applicable):

1 ITV - 07:00 PM Emmerdale 6.901m 34%
2 BBC One - 08:00 PM EastEnders 6.771m 31%
3 BBC One - 09:00 PM Death in Paradise 6.709m 29%
4 BBC One - 06:30 PM Regional News and Weather 6.219m 33%
5 BBC One - 06:00 PM BBC News at Six 5.484m 31%
6 BBC One - 10:00 PM BBC News at Ten 4.539m 26%
7 ITV - 09:00 PM Unforgotten 4.317m 19%
8 BBC One - 07:00 PM The One Show 4.248m 21%
9 ITV - 06:00 PM ITV Regional News 4.084m 23%
10 ITV - 06:30 PM ITV Evening News 4.080m 21%

Thursday Top 10: Other channels (inc. +1 where applicable):

1 E4 - 07:00 PM Hollyoaks 845k 4.2%
2 BBC Four - 08:00 PM Killer Whales - Beneath the Surface 636k 2.9%
3 ITV2 - 09:00 PM The Bourne Ultimatum 586k 3.3%
4 E4 - 09:00 PM Brooklyn Nine-Nine 584k 2.5%
5 E4 - 08:30 PM The Big Bang Theory 538k 2.4%
6 E4 - 09:30 PM Brooklyn Nine-Nine 519k 2.3%
7 CBeebies - 05:20 PM Teacup Travels 492k 3.6%
8 BBC Four - 09:00 PM Sword, Musket & Machine Gun 479k 2.1%
9 E4 - 08:00 PM The Big Bang Theory 475k 2.2%
10 Drama - 08:00 PM Inspector George Gently 472k 2.1%
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Not too bad for EE. But casual viewers are less likely to sit through 1hr of EE on a nomrmal ep. So its just leveling back out to its usual Jan ratings.

Thought its provided DIP with a big lead in.
Death In Paradise has been getting 6m viewers for the last 5 years. People here shouldn't be surprised. It's like the Men In Black have walked into this thread and erased people's memories since 2013!

If EastEnders was on at 7.30pm and no Emmerdale I think it might have been closer to 7m again. Emmerdale have the benefit that when they stick two episodes together it still starts at its usual time of 7pm so people just stay there.
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Good solid start for Death in Paradise. It's definitely a reliable performer. EastEnders didn't seem to suffer from being out of slot, that's a solid rating for it. Emmerdale did well too.

I think that's OK for Unforgotten, considering the tougher competition. Hasn't got far to fall though.
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The soaps getting that tidy January boost.

Wonder what bedlam is in store for NTA week (looking more at ITV than the BBC here!) I predict an explosion!
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Good solid start for Death in Paradise. It's definitely a reliable performer. EastEnders didn't seem to suffer from being out of slot, that's a solid rating for it. Emmerdale did well too.

I think that's OK for Unforgotten, considering the tougher competition. Hasn't got far to fall though.
The Halcyon got 4.7m and people said that 'did not have far to fall'. If the same applies to 4.3m for Unforgotten then what is considered to be the ohno territory? I appreciate some dramas cost more to make than others but then that might be offset if costume dramas might be more sellable than crime dramas.

Wiki suggests Home Fires was overnighting at 4.7m so it seems the goalposts are made of jumpers rather than aluminium.

Am i right in saying that a typical 7day timeshift would be around 30% of the overnight?
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The Halcyon got 4.7m and people said that 'did not have far to fall'. If the same applies to 4.3m for Unforgotten then what is considered to be the ohno territory? I appreciate some dramas cost more to make than others but then that might be offset if costume dramas might be more sellable than crime dramas.

Wiki suggests Home Fires was overnighting at 4.7m so it seems the goalposts are made of jumpers rather than aluminium.

Am i right in saying that a typical 7day timeshift would be around 30% of the overnight?
Perhaps it applies more to Unforgotten than The Halcyon - ideally they'd both stay above 4m in the overnights at least but as we saw with Home Fires that might not be enough.
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Broadcast has updated with only 9pm ratings:

BBC1:
Death in Paradise- 6.7m

BBC2:
Yellowstone- 1.8m (7.6%)

ITV:
Unforgotten- 4.3m (18.6%)

Channel 4:
Spies- 970,000 (4.2%)

Channel 5:
Celebrity Big Brother- 2.0m (8.5%)
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Perhaps it applies more to Unforgotten than The Halcyon - ideally they'd both stay above 4m in the overnights at least but as we saw with Home Fires that might not be enough.
Unfgorgotten is on series 2. I would have thought they've weeded out all the viewers who don't like it, which might not be the case with The Halcyon having just had one episode.

Both 9pm dramas performed better than I thought they would.

Unforgotten matches its series 1 ratings with tougher BBC1 competition. It seems to have its steady core of fans and why not when it gets good reviews.

Death In Paradise is billed as a drama but I think it's the comedy that wins the viewers. We're short-changed in that genre these days. DIP goes some way to bridge the gap.
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I agree about Father brown. There are enough episodes for it to run on Saturdays for half a year instead of Pointless Celebrities. A 6pm pre-Strictly slot could do wonders for the channel. Perhaps the Bake Off debacle has made other broadcasters a bit uncomfortable about nicking other channels' shows re: Goodnight Sweetheart.
That would work well. They probably have options on Saturday if some/all of the lottery quiz shows are going now as well as the actual draws.

I doubt very much Goodnight Sweetheart would go to ITV like BOAF did. If it goes anywhere it will be a smaller channel like Yesterday or maybe even Netflix as I think it might get viewers for its back catalogue abroad and Netflix seems to like quirky.

However, those commenting on its rating in September need to recall that figure in context. It was after the (largely disappointing) start for the sit com season and was widely regarded by reviews as the highlight of all the offerings, which would have been a big help had any of them seen it up front!

It without question was the one most well designed to set up further episodes as it actually had a purpose and a plot around its return that created story opportunities. The other shows largely felt like hastily scribbled one offs to fulfil the remit.

Even more importantly was that it was drafted in very late and only filmed a week or two before transmission. As a result it was AWOL from almost all of the sitcom season publicity in the media and only got a very brief and very late addition of a scene into an on screen promo on the BBC a couple of days before transmission. That is bound to have lost it viewers and it would have almost certainly got 4 - 5 million had it been shown on the first night of the sit com season IMO.

Personally I think the BBC should have commissioned a further one off Christmas special and given it a proper chance with a receptive audience (comedy is a thing Christmas this year needed more of) and proper publicity. Given how well received the show was then I think that it deserved a second chance, but possibly not a full series commission without that.
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Unfgorgotten is on series 2. I would have thought they've weeded out all the viewers who don't like it, which might not be the case with The Halcyon having just had one episode.

Both 9pm dramas performed better than I thought they would.

Unforgotten matches its series 1 ratings with tougher BBC1 competition. It seems to have its steady core of fans and why not when it gets good reviews.

Death In Paradise is billed as a drama but I think it's the comedy that wins the viewers. We're short-changed in that genre these days. DIP goes some way to bridge the gap.
I've seen an episode of DiP, it was the one where the previous main character was murdered at the beginning - came as a shock to me, I wondered what the heck was going on! I enjoyed it, it reminded me of a Lovejoy type, more Castle than CSI.

The axing of Home Fires and Brief Encounters reminds of when a new manager takes over a football club and you quickly see some players being shown the door.
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Unfgorgotten is on series 2. I would have thought they've weeded out all the viewers who don't like it, which might not be the case with The Halcyon having just had one episode.

Both 9pm dramas performed better than I thought they would.

Unforgotten matches its series 1 ratings with tougher BBC1 competition. It seems to have its steady core of fans and why not when it gets good reviews.

Death In Paradise is billed as a drama but I think it's the comedy that wins the viewers. We're short-changed in that genre these days. DIP goes some way to bridge the gap.

Doc Martin and The Durrells are the only real comedy/dramas ITV have, and both do well - though DM has started a decline, and this year will likely be its last series.

I think DIP taps into that audience, as well as the fact its set in the sun and broadcast during the Winter of January.

Unforgotten did well to carve out a respectable figure against DIP.
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From ITV Media:

Thursday Top 10: Main channels (inc. +1 where applicable):

1 ITV - 07:00 PM Emmerdale 6.901m 34%
2 BBC One - 08:00 PM EastEnders 6.771m 31%
3 BBC One - 09:00 PM Death in Paradise 6.709m 29%
4 BBC One - 06:30 PM Regional News and Weather 6.219m 33%
5 BBC One - 06:00 PM BBC News at Six 5.484m 31%
6 BBC One - 10:00 PM BBC News at Ten 4.539m 26%
7 ITV - 09:00 PM Unforgotten 4.317m 19%
8 BBC One - 07:00 PM The One Show 4.248m 21%
9 ITV - 06:00 PM ITV Regional News 4.084m 23%
10 ITV - 06:30 PM ITV Evening News 4.080m 21%

Thursday Top 10: Other channels (inc. +1 where applicable):

1 E4 - 07:00 PM Hollyoaks 845k 4.2%
2 BBC Four - 08:00 PM Killer Whales - Beneath the Surface 636k 2.9%
3 ITV2 - 09:00 PM The Bourne Ultimatum 586k 3.3%
4 E4 - 09:00 PM Brooklyn Nine-Nine 584k 2.5%
5 E4 - 08:30 PM The Big Bang Theory 538k 2.4%
6 E4 - 09:30 PM Brooklyn Nine-Nine 519k 2.3%
7 CBeebies - 05:20 PM Teacup Travels 492k 3.6%
8 BBC Four - 09:00 PM Sword, Musket & Machine Gun 479k 2.1%
9 E4 - 08:00 PM The Big Bang Theory 475k 2.2%
10 Drama - 08:00 PM Inspector George Gently 472k 2.1%
Good figure for Emmerdale. Usually Thursday is its weakest day, so I'm not quite sure why its got its best rating this week.

I quite like the schedule as 1hr Emmerdale, 1hr factual and 1hr drama.
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Good to see Emmerdale return to being the top soap last night.
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Ahead of Through the Keyhole's return tomorrow night, here's all its overnight ratings since 2013. Excluding +1:

Spoiler

Figures from the British Comedy Guide. If anyone's got any other ratings lists/tables they'd like to see, please let me know. I've got a lot of time on my hands, honestly.

Lewiep93 has done quite a few as well, though so I'll keep that in mind when it comes to certain requests.
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Blimey. If even rzt doesn't know the name of it, we're in trouble. Says it all about the generic nature of ITV factual!

Kind of glad it bombed. Diet shows in January that don't even have the decency to offer a new angle are as lazy as it gets.
Is 3.3m for factual against an hour long EastEnders really bombing? I'd call it a decent enough result. It's off to Tuesdays at 7.30pm from next week where it would be decent if it could hold above 3m.

Can't disagree on the show itself, but then all of these January diet shows are beyond tedious. They do rate though so they'll keep doing them. They changed the title of this one about three times in the run up to it airing - the title in the listings magazines definitely wasn't the one they went with. Suggests it was all a bit last minute and cobbled together.
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How do you lot have the energy to argue at half 1 in the morning?

Overnights.tv ‏@overnightstv 25s26 seconds ago
#deathinparadise was back with a splash at 9pm on BBC1, beguiling a slot-winning 6.7m/29% @DannyJohnJules @KudosTV http://www.overnights.tv

That's me surprised! Didn't think it would be that high with Unforgotten being on on t'other side.
EastEnders: 6.77m (30.7%)

Emmerdale: 5.53m excluding HD / excluding +1
Terrific for DIP and EE. - can't believe commentary on EE as " not to bad" it's excellent.
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Terrific for DIP and EE. - can't believe commentary on EE as " not to bad" it's excellent.
Who actually said that? People have said its a solid rating.
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Is 3.3m for factual against an hour long EastEnders really bombing? I'd call it a decent enough result. It's off to Tuesdays at 7.30pm from next week where it would be decent if it could hold above 3m.

Can't disagree on the show itself, but then all of these January diet shows are beyond tedious. They do rate though so they'll keep doing them. They changed the title of this one about three times in the run up to it airing - the title in the listings magazines definitely wasn't the one they went with. Suggests it was all a bit last minute and cobbled together.
Looks like a fairly decent rating to me, it had more of a journalistic angle. It was also good see Sian Williams back on mainstream TV
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