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This from Steve Williams.
From Broadcast... Pointless 3.82m, Casualty 5.13m, MOTD 3.02m, Dad's Army 1.42m, Go For It 2.19m -HD, X Factor 5.02m MINUS HD Bourne 1.83m -HD, Last Vegas 930k, Cricket on 5 580k, The Championship 570k, Beck 440k, Xtra Factor 770k |
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X Factor did as well as anyone could have reasonably expected at this point. Solid but unspectacular. Interesting that the spinoff show performed well on Rylan's debut, perhaps ITV could look to sign him up on some kind of golden handcuffs deal?
![]() Good for Casualty albeit at the lower end of expectations. ITV meanwhile continued its usual terrible numbers outside of last night's (one) dependable. |
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The lower TXF numbers for last night should give ITV some room for negotiation over price for the next contract renewal. If the trend continues tonight as per the last couple of years, ITV may be able to bring TXF in at a lower cost per series.
A show bringing in between 6 and 7 million a night is still a good thing to have - especially if it is cheaper. |
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So you as expected started your annual four months on here slagging off anything on ITV and praising to the hilt anything on BBC.
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That rating is still ok for TXF really. The days of it being the biggest show on TV are long gone. ITV have accepted that and are clearly still happy to have a show which brings in good ratings (7 million is nothing to be sniffed at) every weekend. Can this be the year where the OTT reactions on this forum with regards to TXF finally stop? The show is declining. It has been for years. There is no surprise it is down again after last year's mess. The best they could possibly hope for is to stabilise it at this level or a slightly higher one if this series is received well.
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Poor for Go For It. Will probably be around 2.7-3.0m all in, which is no better than Catchphrase has been doing and that didn't have X Factor on after it. Pointless beat it comfortably. It can't do X Factor much good to always have such weak lead-ins.
Ellie Simmonds: Swimming with Dolphins is an interesting show to precede The X Factor tonight. It may do reasonably well but it is up against Countryfile. |
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ITV really should have started Ninja Warrior UK last night a 7pm. What is the point is giving TXF such poor lead in's?
Is it any wonder TXF ratings keep dropping. ITV's surrounding shows keep getting worse. Not bad for Casualty. James in reference to your post. I'm not hard to please honestly. I haven't watched Casualty yet, but I was planning too. But since I don't ever watch it, I was hoping to hear great praise for last night's ep to encourage me to watch it. But since its been critisised, I don't see the point in watching something that's not that good and wasting my time watching it. |
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Not a terrible start for The Xtra Factor and it did feel fresh... to those who don't watch Bit on The Side anyway!
The difference between 2006 and 2016 is the former saw a 1.8m year-on-year. Last night saw a 0.9m decline on what was an awful figure to start with. To put it into context, it's list nearly 3m viewers in two years. The 2006 launch was up 0.4m - not that much. I agree it's way down although that 2014 launch was particularly high (Cowell and Cole's return) so isn't a great point of reference as the rest of the series didn't live up to it. The rest of this one might not live up to last night either but it's too early to say. Of course, in the consolidated numbers last night will be way higher than 2006's 7.45m. |
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That rating is still ok for TXF really. The days of it being the biggest show on TV are long gone. ITV have accepted that and are clearly still happy to have a show which brings in good ratings (7 million is nothing to be sniffed at) every weekend. Can this be the year where the OTT reactions on this forum with regards to TXF finally stop? The show is declining. It has been for years. There is no surprise it is down again after last year's mess. The best they could possibly hope for is to stabilise it at this level or a slightly higher one if this series is received well.
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Not the best performance for X Factor but with a weakened brand, poor lead in/out and tougher competition than usual, it seems an OK figure, if not just on the wrong side of 7m. What is encouraging is that it was received well and Xtra Factor did well so it's clear viewers enjoyed it. That should mean a greater retention than usual for the Sunday ep, if not bucking the trend of the last two years and rising.
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Xtra Factor was comfortably up on last year (which got 542k) so they'll be pleased with that.
The 2006 launch was up 0.4m - not that much. I agree it's way down although that 2014 launch was particularly high (Cowell and Cole's return) so isn't a great point of reference as the rest of the series didn't live up to it. The rest of this one might not live up to last night either but it's too early to say. Of course, in the consolidated numbers last night will be way higher than 2006's 7.45m. ![]() The 2014 launch figure wasn't particularly high really - it was only 300k up on 2013 which had the feel of a holding series waiting for Simon and Cheryl to return. There was a bigger increase between 2012 and 2013 (0.5m) when Sharon was the sole returnee. The Xtra Factor seems to have pulled in a sample audience which is something to work with. I sense both it and Newzoids might skew young next week so that'll be an interesting battle. It and Victoria airing together seems more 'complimentary'. |
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ITV really should have started Ninja Warrior UK last night a 7pm. What is the point is giving TXF such poor lead in's?
Is it any wonder TXF ratings keep dropping. ITV's surrounding shows keep getting worse. Not bad for Casualty. James in reference to your post. I'm not hard to please honestly. I haven't watched Casualty yet, but I was planning too. But since I don't ever watch it, I was hoping to hear great praise for last night's ep to encourage me to watch it. But since its been critisised, I don't see the point in watching something that's not that good and wasting my time watching it. I'm sure ITV wanted Go For It to do well, so they gave it a go. Who knows, next week it might rise. |
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Oops I was looking at the 2005 launch figure.
![]() The 2014 launch figure wasn't particularly high really - it was only 300k up on 2013 which had the feel of a holding series waiting for Simon and Cheryl to return. There was a bigger increase between 2012 and 2013 (0.5m) when Sharon was the sole returnee. The Xtra Factor seems to have pulled in a sample audience which is something to work with. I sense both it and Newzoids might skew young next week so that'll be an interesting battle. It and Victoria airing together seems more 'complimentary'. Xtra Factor might be dented by Newzoids slightly but they should reach different young crowds. I agree the Sunday scheduling is more complementary but I can't see Newzoids doing much anyway. |
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Not the best performance for X Factor but with a weakened brand, poor lead in/out and tougher competition than usual, it seems an OK figure, if not just on the wrong side of 7m. What is encouraging is that it was received well and Xtra Factor did well so it's clear viewers enjoyed it. That should mean a greater retention than usual for the Sunday ep, if not bucking the trend of the last two years and rising.
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Not the best performance for X Factor but with a weakened brand, poor lead in/out and tougher competition than usual, it seems an OK figure, if not just on the wrong side of 7m. What is encouraging is that it was received well and Xtra Factor did well so it's clear viewers enjoyed it. That should mean a greater retention than usual for the Sunday ep, if not bucking the trend of the last two years and rising.
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Because they're trying to find new hits so they don't rely on the same shows. You said it was silly when they first had Ninja Warrior leading into BGT, saying BGT deserved better but when Ninja Warrior performed well, you changed your tune. If ITV hadn't taken that risk, they wouldn't have even had a good performer to service your suggestion.
I'm sure ITV wanted Go For It to do well, so they gave it a go. Who knows, next week it might rise. |
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Slightly disappointed by Casualtys figure, I watched it for the first time in about 10 years and thought it was really good. I loved the video messages from old characters and thought the stunt was really well done.
A bit meh for xfactor. However I've caught up with the episode and must say it's the best episode I remember for a long time. There seemed to be a really feelgood and fun factor among the judges which has been sorely missing. My only complaint was the relentless sob stories - dead siblings, being bullied etc. I can't believe the producers still persist with this angle, as I think it irritates a good portion of the audience. That aside, it has made me want to watch tonight. |
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The key is to keep the quality going. They seem to produce one or two good shows followed by a poor one and people's patience seems very thin when it comes to The X Factor now.
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Couldn't have put it better myself. In H's world you shouldn't try new programmes next to existing hit shows as it may provide a poor lead in, and shouldn't schedule them away from existing hit shows either as it means they are floundering on their own and never going to be a success.
"ITV need to innovate more!" "ITV shouldn't be risking new shows as lead-ins!" "ITV need to stop relying on some shows too much!" "ITV shouldn't be wasting money on new formats!" "Corrie is in crisis, get a new producer!" "This new producer isn't working quick enough, it's been TWO WEEKS and nothing has changed!" Surely he sees the ridiculousness?
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So you watched it and thought it was feeble?
I thought it was superb, actually. Very pacy, well written and acted, and that helicopter stunt was one of the best I've seen on UK TV ever. The score by the BBC National Orchestra was beautiful. All the past characters popping up via video messages cut through the action was a great touch. It was very beautifully shot, the production values were in another league to anything I've seen in Casualty years back. In fact I'd say they far surpass any other serial drama in the modern age. It had political references in the script, tons of emotion, fantastic action and spectacle, and I had my heart in my mouth more or less throughout - and I say all that as a non regular viewer of the programme who doesn't know most of the current cast. The script constantly lead me up paths and made me think I knew what was coming, then threw me off. It was a terrific ensemble piece and the teams should be proud, without a shred of CGI in sight that stunt was something to behold. Proper jaw dropper when the blades chopped up those unfortunate extras. You seem hard to please H. Always harking on about why this show and that show is not what you want, but it strikes me very little pleases you nowadays, and you don't want that to change. |
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If a special Casualty wasn't on X Factor would arguably have been over 7m. I doubt ratings will tumble over the coming weeks.
If ITV have complimentary scheduling with Strictly without any silly clashes, TXF could keep a stable 7 million each week. Personally I would have Newzoids starting before TXF. Tone down any post watershed language, and add a parody of TXF each week - just like Harry Hill used to do. It would keep Newzoids out of a clash between it and The Extra Factor, and be a great warm up to TXF. |
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I agree.
If ITV have complimentary scheduling with Strictly without any silly clashes, TXF could keep a stable 7 million each week. Personally I would have Newzoids starting before TXF. Tone down any post watershed language, and add a parody of TXF each week - just like Harry Hill used to do. It would keep Newzoids out of a clash between it and The Extra Factor, and be a great warm up to TXF. |
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Strictly will clearly beat TXF next week
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Strictly will clearly beat TXF next week
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The lower TXF numbers for last night should give ITV some room for negotiation over price for the next contract renewal. If the trend continues tonight as per the last couple of years, ITV may be able to bring TXF in at a lower cost per series.
A show bringing in between 6 and 7 million a night is still a good thing to have - especially if it is cheaper. Like you say not many shows get 6 or 7 million viewers on commercial TV and with decent demos |
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