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The Tennis Thread (Part 31)
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Jem19876
16-08-2016
Originally Posted by striing:
“Aren't you playing into this by writing lenghty posts on a forum that wasn't talking about the topic?”

No. I commented on an article that another poster linked to.

If my posts are too long for you, please feel free to ignore them. If you wish to address the content of my posts, that's fine too.


Originally Posted by tartan-belle:
“Bet Steve Johnson wishes he never said anything re: USO WDs. Seen on twitter a few places that Delpo will definitely be getting one. Johnson will be nervous about the draw, it'd be funny if he draws Delpo!!”

It was foolish and he obviously didn't think it through. No doubt it came from a good place of wanting to support someone from his own country, but it would be a farce if a player in Delpo's position wasn't offered a WC. He's a former champion, was a solid top ten player who has been injured, and has demonstrated his return to form. It might be a bit more ambiguous if he was just back from injury and his form was still in doubt, but he's demonstrably playing at a level where he should be in the draw.
tartan-belle
16-08-2016
Laura's got a WC into USO qualies

More details Blimey I didn't know Oudin had such a bad time of it, sounds horrific.
striing
16-08-2016
Originally Posted by Jem19876:
“If my posts are too long for you, please feel free to ignore them. If you wish to address the content of my posts, that's fine too.”

Wow we usually manage to speak to eachother in a relatively civil manner on this thread but perhaps we're due a change. Unless you have become a mod and I missed it I think you'll find it's not for you to determine what or how I post.
tartan-belle
16-08-2016
Andy is throwing some shade to non Rio participants
tartan-belle
16-08-2016
How Delpo was greeted back home that is so lovely. I have all the feels
anyonefortennis
16-08-2016
Originally Posted by tartan-belle:
“How Delpo was greeted back home that is so lovely. I have all the feels ”

Wow that is amazing. Poor Andy will probably just get his mum and Maggie May.
tartan-belle
16-08-2016
Originally Posted by anyonefortennis:
“Wow that is amazing. Poor Andy will probably just get his mum and Maggie May.”

not even kim and baby sophia??
CLL Dodge
17-08-2016
Originally Posted by tartan-belle:
“Laura's got a WC into USO qualies

More details Blimey I didn't know Oudin had such a bad time of it, sounds horrific.”

I'm pleased for both of them. They are missed on the WTA Tour.
Irishguy123
17-08-2016
Strycova remains unimpressed by poor handshakes
https://twitter.com/aydaabay/status/765721790161256448
Jem19876
17-08-2016
Originally Posted by striing:
“Wow we usually manage to speak to eachother in a relatively civil manner on this thread but perhaps we're due a change. Unless you have become a mod and I missed it I think you'll find it's not for you to determine what or how I post.”

Irony much? You were having a go at me for my long post. I don't intend to moderate my posts because you think they are too lengthy. I was being accused of starting a discussion no-one else was interested in, when I was replying to someone else. Is it really uncivil to politely point out that isn't the case?

I would rather other posters don't lie about what I post. It's not mandatory to reply to all of my posts, especially if it's just to say they are too long. I'm more than happy for someone to disagree with what I write, but if they don't want to, they have the option of ignoring me. If someone posts a link to an article that I consider to be factually incorrect, I think it's OK to say so too.

I don't keep track of who I have previously agreed or disagreed with, because I try to focus on the content of posts. I'll continue to do that, but reserve the right to defend myself when other posters make false accusations. I don't think that requires moderator status.

Back on topic, the footage and photos of Delpo back home are wonderful to see. I hope he's able to thoroughly enjoy his moment and get himself ready for the US Open. Everyone will be so anxious about where he's drawn!

Good news for Laura too. I hope she gets a decent run of things.
lyn2
17-08-2016
Originally Posted by anyonefortennis:
“Exactly. People only see and hear what they want to see and hear sometimes. Have you had any sleep at all? ”

You actually agreed with me in post 3884.

I really don't know how anyone can dispute the fact that Delpo had a far tougher draw/schedule. That's not me seeing what I want to see, it's a fact. Some may think it's an irrelevant fact which is fair enough but it's a fact all the same.
lyn2
17-08-2016
Originally Posted by Lisa.B:
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Fact is we all know Delpo would've been a mainstay of at least top 10 if not top 5 had it not been for the injuries. Gold is gold doesn't matter how you do it, you can only play what's in front of you and still got to beat them all to do it. Puig had to beat 3 grand slam champs to win hers. Andy was woeful-sub par for most of the tournament and yet still ground out the wins.”

Agree with all of that but I also think the draw /schedule played a part.
Jaccobabe
17-08-2016
Originally Posted by tartan-belle:
“Laura's got a WC into USO qualies

More details Blimey I didn't know Oudin had such a bad time of it, sounds horrific.”

Interesting about BMS. Was it last year she almost took out Serena?
Maybe 2014?
MissAyrshire
17-08-2016
That turnout for Delpo was great He must've been over the moon with his reception. I remember when he won the US Open - he got a parade!
Slainte Mhath
17-08-2016
Originally Posted by Lisa.B:
“Fact is we all know Delpo would've been a mainstay of at least top 10 if not top 5 had it not been for the injuries.”

I think it's nigh-on certain that we'd be talking about a big-5 if he'd stayed injury free. I still think we'd have the big-3 within the big-5 as we have due to the gap between Andy's achievements and the rest of the big 4, but the past two times del Potro's stayed (largely) injury free for any length of time he's ended up ranked up at 4th in the world.

With his two handed backhand being under-powered and with him still building confidence, consistency and fitness he's not quite back to his very best, and may never if the two handed backhand never regains its full sting, but I'd say he was playing around top-10 standard in the Olympics.
tartan-belle
17-08-2016
Cilic's new coach is Jonas Bjorkman.
Irishguy123
17-08-2016
Originally Posted by lyn2:
“Not upset or bitter at all - just stating facts which appear to have been overlooked.
Oh and can't stand Kate Nash either. ”

Oh please, that post couldn't have been more bitter if you tried. What other purpose did trying to belittle and play down Andy's victory serve? It's such a nasty trait, and it's something often seen from Djokovic and Nadal fans. You've posted many subtle and not-so-subtle jibes at Murray on here in recent times, they're getting worse and nobody really seems to call you out on it. Murray will never achieve anything remotely close to Djokovic in the grand scheme of things, so why the need to try diminish what he does actually achieve? So bizarre, and a little sad.
Irishguy123
17-08-2016
As we head towards the US Open what are people's main hopes? For the WTA I'd like to see another Serena/Kerber final, Puig to build upon her Olympics victory, Muguruza to actually do something in New York and for Radwanska to finally make the QF's. On ATP side I want a Murray-Del Potro rematch with Murray winning.
Jenny1986
17-08-2016
Originally Posted by tartan-belle:
“Cilic's new coach is Jonas Bjorkman.”

Oh interesting, would you consider this a promotion or a demotion? He's gone from Andy's assistant coach to head coach of Marin Cilic..... no offence to Cilic .
Jenny1986
17-08-2016
Originally Posted by Irishguy123:
“As we head towards the US Open what are people's main hopes? For the WTA I'd like to see another Serena/Kerber final, Puig to build upon her Olympics victory, Muguruza to actually do something in New York and for Radwanska to finally make the QF's. On ATP side I want a Murray-Del Potro rematch with Murray winning.”

Ah my own personal recipe for disappointment. I keep hoping though.

I'd like Andy to at least make the final (preferably winning), this is partly because Rafa stands no chance. I'd like Rafa to make the 4th round, I think that's modest enough. Actually scrap that, as long as I see Rafa play I will be happy there.

Kerber/Serena make a good final though I won't be too upset if Serena isn't there.
Lisa.B
17-08-2016
Originally Posted by tartan-belle:
“How Delpo was greeted back home that is so lovely. I have all the feels ”

Aww that's amazing!

Originally Posted by Irishguy123:
“Strycova remains unimpressed by poor handshakes
https://twitter.com/aydaabay/status/765721790161256448”



Originally Posted by lyn2:
“You actually agreed with me in post 3884.

I really don't know how anyone can dispute the fact that Delpo had a far tougher draw/schedule. That's not me seeing what I want to see, it's a fact. Some may think it's an irrelevant fact which is fair enough but it's a fact all the same.”

If you look back you'll see everyone was pretty much devastated when Delpo's opener was revealed to be Novak. Fact is the players have no control of the draw, they've still got to get all the wins, which Andy struggled with coming up against the likes of his bogey player Fabio and the healthy and resurgent Delpo who is playing like a top player again.

It was the backhanded way in which you said it in the immediate aftermath of Andy winning his second Olympic gold. You couldn't just say well done Andy, like most of us do for Novak, you came in almost putting a mental asterisk against it. For comparison, It'd be like someone putting an asterisk on Novak's FO win when he only really had to worry about Andy, without realising the immense pressure Novak had put on himself to finally complete the set. Similar to the pressure and expectation on Andy to succeed from the British public and also the 1-2 tennis medal target set by UK Sport and himself to win a second gold.
Jaccobabe
17-08-2016
I see Malisse was in the draw in an ATP challenger in Germany, but wd from match (doubles)

Is he planning on a comeback?
tartan-belle
17-08-2016
Originally Posted by Lisa.B:
“If you look back you'll see everyone was pretty much devastated when Delpo's opener was revealed to be Novak. Fact is the players have no control of the draw, they've still got to get all the wins, which Andy struggled with coming up against the likes of his bogey player Fabio and the healthy and resurgent Delpo who is playing like a top player again.

It was the backhanded way in which you said it in the immediate aftermath of Andy winning his second Olympic gold. You couldn't just say well done Andy, like most of us do for Novak, you came in almost putting a mental asterisk against it. For comparison, It'd be like someone putting an asterisk on Novak's FO win when he only really had to worry about Andy, without realising the immense pressure Novak had put on himself to finally complete the set. Similar to the pressure and expectation on Andy to succeed from the British public and also the 1-2 tennis medal target set by UK Sport and himself to win a second gold.”

The 1 medal target suggests Andy. The 2 medal target...also suggests Andy (in the doubles).

If Novak had gotten through Delpo and reached the final you'd be saying the same thing, only with the caveat that Novak had an injury or whatever. As everyone says, you can only beat who is in front of you, you can't magic top players out of thin air - half of the top didn't even play due to lame excuses and/or injuries. Everyone played as good as they got because it was for their country. Also, Andy didn't play his best throughout the tourney. Any Andy fan could see that.
Mike Teevee
17-08-2016
I would just like to say that this Murray fan doesn't subscribe the views posted above, so would like to be kept out of whatever two & fro is likely to happen next between yourselves.

tartan-belle
17-08-2016
Originally Posted by Jenny1986:
“Oh interesting, would you consider this a promotion or a demotion? He's gone from Andy's assistant coach to head coach of Marin Cilic..... no offence to Cilic .”

Hm...tricky. About evens. He has been promoted in that he is head coach but Cilic is not the same caliber as Andy, so. Evens.

Originally Posted by Irishguy123:
“As we head towards the US Open what are people's main hopes? For the WTA I'd like to see another Serena/Kerber final, Puig to build upon her Olympics victory, Muguruza to actually do something in New York and for Radwanska to finally make the QF's. On ATP side I want a Murray-Del Potro rematch with Murray winning.”

I would like Stan to go far. Wouldn't mind a Murray/Stan final for instance. I could see that. With Andy winning. Depending on the wrists, I'd like to see Delpo and Rafa get somewhere - QFs maybe. Monfils is playing well, so could see him have a decent run and Nick as well (minus all the antics).

For the British players: I'd like to see Laura qualify, Heather to do something, Jo to defend her points and/or go further. Kyle and Bedene haven't had the best of times (excepting Kyle's DC tie and Queens run) so would like them to win a match or two. Dan is playing well and he has reached the 4th round before.

Women: Puig, Angie, Aga and I'd like to see Caro string some wins together if she's properly recovered from her various injuries.

Originally Posted by Irishguy123:
“Strycova remains unimpressed by poor handshakes
https://twitter.com/aydaabay/status/765721790161256448”

That is hilarious!
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