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The Tennis Thread (Part 31)
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tartan-belle
30-08-2016
Originally Posted by wns_195:
“What does this match say about the value of LTA support? Naomi Broady hasn't been able to rely on the support of the LTA, but Laura Robson has. The LTA provides financial and developmental support for players.

Yes Laura Robson has had problems this year, but she is still one of our best female tennis players.

When a British player who hasn't always had the support of the LTA can beat a British player who has always had the support of the LTA, and when for years we've only needed thumbs to count the amount of British women who can get to the fourth round of a major, doesn't this show that there is something wrong with the LTA?

And add to this the fact that they're trying to pretend a Slovenian is British because there is only one British player who is better than him. What a mess.”

BIB 1 - and with their support, Laura reached 4th rounds of GS and 27 in the world. Laura is still coming back from injury.

BIB 2 - surely other countries support their players, not just British players from the LTA? So I don't think that argument altogether holds.
Lisa.B
30-08-2016
Originally Posted by wns_195:
“What does this match say about the value of LTA support? Naomi Broady hasn't been able to rely on the support of the LTA, but Laura Robson has. The LTA provides financial and developmental support for players.

Yes Laura Robson has had problems this year, but she is still one of our best female tennis players.

When a British player who hasn't always had the support of the LTA can beat a British player who has always had the support of the LTA, and when for years we've only needed thumbs to count the amount of British women who can get to the fourth round of a major, doesn't this show that there is something wrong with the LTA?

And add to this the fact that they're trying to pretend a Slovenian is British because there is only one British player who is better than him. What a mess.”

Laura's lost two years with the all the wrist woes.

There's Andy, Dan and Kyle all above Bedene in the rankings.
Irishguy123
30-08-2016
Originally Posted by tartan-belle:
“TBH, it's most likely Aga in the next round so Naomi might be lucky to win a few games!!”

Good

I'd love to have seen Laura take on Radwanska though, she could go out there without absolutely nothing to lose, just swing away and see what happens. Given Radwanska's poor form in New York, you never know. Not to be though!
EuroFoxi
30-08-2016
Originally Posted by wns_195:
“What does this match say about the value of LTA support? Naomi Broady hasn't been able to rely on the support of the LTA, but Laura Robson has. The LTA provides financial and developmental support for players.

Yes Laura Robson has had problems this year, but she is still one of our best female tennis players.

When a British player who hasn't always had the support of the LTA can beat a British player who has always had the support of the LTA, and when for years we've only needed thumbs to count the amount of British women who can get to the fourth round of a major, doesn't this show that there is something wrong with the LTA?

And add to this the fact that they're trying to pretend a Slovenian is British because there is only one British player who is better than him. What a mess.”

You really should check the live rankings more often. Both Dan Evans and Kyle Edmund are ahead of Bedene 'a Slovenian'. And also, it could be more to do with the fact that Laura has an ongoing wrist injury and she's only just getting back on track. The LTA is far from perfect but it's a bit unfair to blame her injured form on them. This match could have gone either way, anyway.
Irishguy123
30-08-2016
Woah, incredible slice winner down the line from Kozlova there!
tartan-belle
30-08-2016
Originally Posted by EuroFoxi:
“You really should check the live rankings more often. Both Dan Evans and Kyle Edmund are ahead of Bedene 'a Slovenian'. And also, it could be more to do with the fact that Laura has an ongoing wrist injury and she's only just getting back on track. The LTA is far from perfect but it's a bit unfair to blame her injured form on them. This match could have gone either way, anyway.”

Bedene describes himself as British which is why he wants to play for GB.
Lushness
30-08-2016
Great quality match between Venus and Kozlova
Lisa.B
30-08-2016
Fognini making friends again. Complaining that Gabashvili is being noisier than Azarenka and got a point penalty for removing the sunglasses of a linesman.
wns_195
30-08-2016
Originally Posted by tartan-belle:
“with their support, Laura reached 4th rounds of GS and 27 in the world.”

That's years ago.

Quote:
“surely other countries support their players, not just British players from the LTA? So I don't think that argument altogether holds.”

Other countries produce better players than us. There aren't 32 countries in the top 32 men or women, because some countries have more than one good player.

I'm not aware of players from other countries who have been rejected by their domestic tennis authorities and then gone on to beat the players who have the support of the same authorities in a major.

Will Laura Robson still be picked ahead of Naomi Broady to represent Great Britain in the Fed Cup?

Originally Posted by EuroFoxi:
“You really should check the live rankings more often. Both Dan Evans and Kyle Edmund are ahead of Bedene 'a Slovenian'.”

The LTA obviously thought it would have to rely on a Slovenian. If there were ten British players who were better than him and there was no prospect of him ever being selected to represent GB the LTA would not have supported him. They supported him because they lack confidence in their own players. The rankings show that the LTA doesn't have to rely on a Slovenian as much as they thought they would, but they do not show there are enough British players for them to stop trying to pretend a Slovenian is British..

Naomi Broady didn't just beat Laura robson because Laura Robson is coming back from injury. Both players played well and in the end it came down to one break. It could have gone either way at several points in the match.
smude
30-08-2016
Originally Posted by wns_195:
“That's years ago.



Other countries produce better players than us. There aren't 32 countries in the top 32 men or women, because some countries have more than one good player.

I'm not aware of players from other countries who have been rejected by their domestic tennis authorities and then gone on to beat the players who have the support of the same authorities in a major.

Will Laura Robson still be picked ahead of Naomi Broady to represent Great Britain in the Fed Cup?”

Naomi was asked to play Fed Cup and she refused so Katie Swan played. Naomi and her father are the ones perpetuating the feud with the LTA.
Lisa.B
30-08-2016
Originally Posted by wns_195:
“That's years ago.

I'm not aware of players from other countries who have been rejected by their domestic tennis authorities and then gone on to beat the players who have the support of the same authorities in a major.”

Being out injured for two years kinda does that...

Bartoli was very much an outsider as far as the FFT was concerned, because of her bonkers dad. The French tennis federation love creating drama with its players. Tennis Australia is also a bit of a mess too.
smude
30-08-2016
Originally Posted by Lisa.B:
“Being out injured for two years kinda does that...”

Laura is only 22 so hopefully she has time to come back.
Sorry she lost to Naomi.
Irishguy123
30-08-2016
Originally Posted by Lisa.B:
“Fognini making friends again. Complaining that Gabashvili is being noisier than Azarenka and got a point penalty for removing the sunglasses of a linesman.”

That's hilarious

Some glorious shots between Venus and Kozlova here!
Lisa.B
30-08-2016
Well done Queenus.

Only got to see the third set, but as Rihanna is saying over the speakers, she did have to work for that it seems. Kozlova was throwing the kitchen sink at her.

Also I really liked Venus' colourful summer dress.
tartan-belle
30-08-2016
The balls didn't do Tomic any good, he's out.
Aaron_Silver
30-08-2016
Originally Posted by smude:
“Laura is only 22 so hopefully she has time to come back.
Sorry she lost to Naomi.”

She has plenty of time, Konta is 25 and didn't start this incredible run until the later half of last year
Lisa.B
31-08-2016
Originally Posted by tartan-belle:
“The balls didn't do Tomic any good, he's out.”

But he will even give you some money to make you feel good.
King Kunta
31-08-2016
Lovely Del Po winning in 3 sets and allowing me to go to sleep because I'm up for work at half 5.
Irishguy123
31-08-2016
Nice to see Armstrong rammed for this Radwanska match
Lisa.B
31-08-2016
Originally Posted by Irishguy123:
“Nice to see Armstrong rammed for this Radwanska match”

They're all queueing to enter the spaceship... I mean Arthur Ashe instead.
Irishguy123
31-08-2016
Potential banana skin for Serena here, but she'll surely come prepared. I'm thinking maybe a tight first set and then she'll blow her away in the second.
Lisa.B
31-08-2016
This is a nice evening practice session for Aga. 0 UEs and got halfway to a golden set in the first.

Why is Serena wearing Raobot's dirty old sleeves?

https://twitter.com/WTATea/status/770772044099182592
Irishguy123
31-08-2016
Should be plain sailing from here for Serena.. but that's what we all thought the last time she won the first set on this court Would be fun if Makarova could make a match of this.
Whitehouse95
31-08-2016
Originally Posted by Lisa.B:
“Well done Queenus.

Only got to see the third set, but as Rihanna is saying over the speakers, she did have to work for that it seems. Kozlova was throwing the kitchen sink at her.

Also I really liked Venus' colourful summer dress.”

Is this the campest Digital Spy post ever?
Irishguy123
31-08-2016
Originally Posted by Whitehouse95:
“Is this the campest Digital Spy post ever?”

Oh I don't know, I'm sure there are some in the Britney, Madonna or Saturdays appreciation threads that would have something to say about that
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