Maybe I need to have a weekend training retreat on multi-quoting at Cherry-Chocs mansion?
The Tennis Thread (Part 31)
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Originally Posted by tennisman:
“Maybe I need to have a weekend training retreat on multi-quoting at Cherry-Chocs mansion?”
“Maybe I need to have a weekend training retreat on multi-quoting at Cherry-Chocs mansion?”
cherry-choc is the master of multi-quotes!
Originally Posted by tennisman:
“Maybe I need to have a weekend training retreat on multi-quoting at Cherry-Chocs mansion?”
“Maybe I need to have a weekend training retreat on multi-quoting at Cherry-Chocs mansion?”
Originally Posted by tartan-belle:
“ cherry-choc is the master of multi-quotes!”
“
cherry-choc is the master of multi-quotes!”
Tennisman, you know how I love your insights but I fear it would take more than aweekend . As tartan-belle says, Cherry-choc is a master at his craft!
On another note, that of nationality - I think we're all singing fro the same hymn sheet but I thought I'd add a personal experience. I wasn't born here but moved over as a toddler. Most of my schooling was here and then we returned to my country birth (not my choice).. I was a fish out of water. I fought and worked for years to return and when I qualified for British nationality, I seized the opportunity with both hands.
Interestingly, my older brother who never left the UK after our initial arrival, never felt British and remained here as a permanent resident. I'm not an athlete and in my profession there was nothing to be gained by taking on the British nationality - it was just how I felt. I barely read any news from my country of birth neither do I support them in any international event.
Of course, some choose a flag of convenience and to some, I will never be British but that's what I consider myself.
Originally Posted by MissAyrshire:
“I don't know if anyone posted but Kyle won his first qualifying match in Shanghai”
“I don't know if anyone posted but Kyle won his first qualifying match in Shanghai”
Oh, very good!
Originally Posted by Jewels501:
“Tennisman, you know how I love your insights but I fear it would take more than aweekend . As tartan-belle says, Cherry-choc is a master at his craft!
On another note, that of nationality - I think we're all singing fro the same hymn sheet but I thought I'd add a personal experience. I wasn't born here but moved over as a toddler. Most of my schooling was here and then we returned to my country birth (not my choice).. I was a fish out of water. I fought and worked for years to return and when I qualified for British nationality, I seized the opportunity with both hands.
Interestingly, my older brother who never left the UK after our initial arrival, never felt British and remained here as a permanent resident. I'm not an athlete and in my profession there was nothing to be gained by taking on the British nationality - it was just how I felt. I barely read any news from my country of birth neither do I support them in any international event.
Of course, some choose a flag of convenience and to some, I will never be British but that's what I consider myself.”
“Tennisman, you know how I love your insights but I fear it would take more than aweekend . As tartan-belle says, Cherry-choc is a master at his craft!
On another note, that of nationality - I think we're all singing fro the same hymn sheet but I thought I'd add a personal experience. I wasn't born here but moved over as a toddler. Most of my schooling was here and then we returned to my country birth (not my choice).. I was a fish out of water. I fought and worked for years to return and when I qualified for British nationality, I seized the opportunity with both hands.
Interestingly, my older brother who never left the UK after our initial arrival, never felt British and remained here as a permanent resident. I'm not an athlete and in my profession there was nothing to be gained by taking on the British nationality - it was just how I felt. I barely read any news from my country of birth neither do I support them in any international event.
Of course, some choose a flag of convenience and to some, I will never be British but that's what I consider myself.”
Jewels, while I wasn't born outwith the UK, I was born in Yorkshire but since the age of 7, have lived in an area of Scotland and so I consider myself Scottish/British, not English. I don't feel as if I have any ties to England (from a personal point of view) because Scotland is where I grew up, where my friends are and most importantly where I consider home - much like Jo, Mo, Alijaz, Laura and various other athletes.
Originally Posted by Jewels501:
“Tennisman, you know how I love your insights but I fear it would take more than aweekend . As tartan-belle says, Cherry-choc is a master at his craft!
On another note, that of nationality - I think we're all singing fro the same hymn sheet but I thought I'd add a personal experience. I wasn't born here but moved over as a toddler. Most of my schooling was here and then we returned to my country birth (not my choice).. I was a fish out of water. I fought and worked for years to return and when I qualified for British nationality, I seized the opportunity with both hands.
Interestingly, my older brother who never left the UK after our initial arrival, never felt British and remained here as a permanent resident. I'm not an athlete and in my profession there was nothing to be gained by taking on the British nationality - it was just how I felt. I barely read any news from my country of birth neither do I support them in any international event.
Of course, some choose a flag of convenience and to some, I will never be British but that's what I consider myself.”
“Tennisman, you know how I love your insights but I fear it would take more than aweekend . As tartan-belle says, Cherry-choc is a master at his craft!
On another note, that of nationality - I think we're all singing fro the same hymn sheet but I thought I'd add a personal experience. I wasn't born here but moved over as a toddler. Most of my schooling was here and then we returned to my country birth (not my choice).. I was a fish out of water. I fought and worked for years to return and when I qualified for British nationality, I seized the opportunity with both hands.
Interestingly, my older brother who never left the UK after our initial arrival, never felt British and remained here as a permanent resident. I'm not an athlete and in my profession there was nothing to be gained by taking on the British nationality - it was just how I felt. I barely read any news from my country of birth neither do I support them in any international event.
Of course, some choose a flag of convenience and to some, I will never be British but that's what I consider myself.”
Good stuff.
But we might ask, what do we mean by convenience? It may be different things to different people and I'm okay with that.
In other words, if an athlete chooses a nationality in order to represent them at sport in major games (African runners representing Bahrain, for example), well, as long as they fulfil the residency criteria, they haven't done anything wrong.
People's circumstances, like yours, are unique and personal to each different person but as long as choices are made according to the current policy, what's the problem?
Again, my point is that it's the rules / criteria on nationality which people should try and change if they don't like who takes on one nationality or another, not criticise the people / athletes in question.
In cricket again, Ranjitsinjhi played for England in the early 20th century and he was an Indian Prince. Sound wrong? Well it was within the parameters of the policy.
You're right Tennisman, I can't talk about or judge anyone and say that they have chosen a flag of convenience. I don't know what their circumstances are or what they feel.
I remember the likes of Graeme Hick - did he wait 7 years merely to qualify to play test cricket for England or had he (like many others) already chosen to have live his life in the UK? Who knows? And as you say, as long as done within the current rules of the country, who can judge?
I guess my point was (as with tartan-belle's post) no-one can really comment on someone's feelings regarding nationality. Even if I could not have officially become British, I would never voluntarily return to my country of birth. That probably says more about me than anything else.....
I remember the likes of Graeme Hick - did he wait 7 years merely to qualify to play test cricket for England or had he (like many others) already chosen to have live his life in the UK? Who knows? And as you say, as long as done within the current rules of the country, who can judge?
I guess my point was (as with tartan-belle's post) no-one can really comment on someone's feelings regarding nationality. Even if I could not have officially become British, I would never voluntarily return to my country of birth. That probably says more about me than anything else.....
Originally Posted by Jewels501:
“Yeah, but you are a Eurovision fan Irishguy. That means it's compulsory for you to like music from the best era ever...
”
“Yeah, but you are a Eurovision fan Irishguy. That means it's compulsory for you to like music from the best era ever...
”
IG isn't the only one.
As with Cherry-Choc, T'Pau was also #1 when I was born.
Originally Posted by tennisman:
“Good stuff.
But we might ask, what do we mean by convenience? It may be different things to different people and I'm okay with that.
In other words, if an athlete chooses a nationality in order to represent them at sport in major games (African runners representing Bahrain, for example), well, as long as they fulfil the residency criteria, they haven't done anything wrong.
People's circumstances, like yours, are unique and personal to each different person but as long as choices are made according to the current policy, what's the problem?
Again, my point is that it's the rules / criteria on nationality which people should try and change if they don't like who takes on one nationality or another, not criticise the people / athletes in question.
In cricket again, Ranjitsinjhi played for England in the early 20th century and he was an Indian Prince. Sound wrong? Well it was within the parameters of the policy.”
“Good stuff.
But we might ask, what do we mean by convenience? It may be different things to different people and I'm okay with that.
In other words, if an athlete chooses a nationality in order to represent them at sport in major games (African runners representing Bahrain, for example), well, as long as they fulfil the residency criteria, they haven't done anything wrong.
People's circumstances, like yours, are unique and personal to each different person but as long as choices are made according to the current policy, what's the problem?
Again, my point is that it's the rules / criteria on nationality which people should try and change if they don't like who takes on one nationality or another, not criticise the people / athletes in question.
In cricket again, Ranjitsinjhi played for England in the early 20th century and he was an Indian Prince. Sound wrong? Well it was within the parameters of the policy.”
The economic mercenaries like Turkey and Bahrain's African All-Stars athletics squads do rankle with me, because they clearly have no interest other than the money and they know how competitive it is to get places on their home teams.
Other than that I'm not fussed, people identify how they want and usually switch through marriage/residence, etc. I'm sure there are Aussies that probably give Gavrilova stick even though she made the switch all off her own back. She was living and training in Oz, her long-term boyfriend is an Aussie, her coach is an Aussie, she'd grown up in the system, so it seemed pretty obvious to her to go the whole hog and make it official.
Originally Posted by dduk:
“What is Konta's head to head record against Aga? Does anyone know?”
“What is Konta's head to head record against Aga? Does anyone know?”
Just that one meeting in Cincy a couple of months ago. Aga won in 3 sets.
Originally Posted by Mike Teevee:
“To steal a Simpsons quote "it can be two things"
Other than one person on here (who seems to have calmed down a bit from their first few posts), I don't think there's anybody who could be thought of in your Twilight/Bieber analogy.”
“To steal a Simpsons quote "it can be two things"
Other than one person on here (who seems to have calmed down a bit from their first few posts), I don't think there's anybody who could be thought of in your Twilight/Bieber analogy.”
Originally Posted by Jenny1986:
“lol true. No there isn't anyone like that here, thats why I was a bit
at the original post.
Speaking of, she hasn't posted in a while, we need a good Rafa win to entice her back.”
“lol true. No there isn't anyone like that here, thats why I was a bit
at the original post.Speaking of, she hasn't posted in a while, we need a good Rafa win to entice her back.”
I could do with a good Rafa win but I really don't think it will happen
Thought it might again a while back but these days I just enjoy seeing him again then he goes away. I suppose this could be classed as being a fangirl
https://www.instagram.com/p/BD0q15vh...adee1962&hl=en
https://www.instagram.com/p/BDwqigyB...adee1962&hl=en
I was so fed up of seeing loads of women having photos taken with him and knowing I would never get one I made my own.
I cheated a bit by using an old photo of myself from when I was 26
Originally Posted by deedee1962:
“I could do with a good Rafa win but I really don't think it will happen Thought it might again a while back but these days I just enjoy seeing him again then he goes away.
I suppose this could be classed as being a fangirl
https://www.instagram.com/p/BD0q15vh...adee1962&hl=en
https://www.instagram.com/p/BDwqigyB...adee1962&hl=en
I was so fed up of seeing loads of women having photos taken with him and knowing I would never get one I made my own. I cheated a bit by using an old photo of myself from when I was 26 ”
“I could do with a good Rafa win but I really don't think it will happen
Thought it might again a while back but these days I just enjoy seeing him again then he goes away. I suppose this could be classed as being a fangirl
https://www.instagram.com/p/BD0q15vh...adee1962&hl=en
https://www.instagram.com/p/BDwqigyB...adee1962&hl=en
I was so fed up of seeing loads of women having photos taken with him and knowing I would never get one I made my own.
I cheated a bit by using an old photo of myself from when I was 26 ”
Ah bless you Deedee. I wish I had the technological know-how to photoshop myself with anyone. It would probably be George Michael circa 1987 (now if that's not wishful thinking I don't know what is....) or maybe Luther (the singer not Idris Elba) and that too, if rumours are to believed would be pure fantasy and a tad morbid....
For what it's worth, I prefer the first pic but you do make me smile.
Originally Posted by Jewels501:
“Ah bless you Deedee. I wish I had the technological know-how to photoshop myself with anyone. It would probably be George Michael circa 1987 (now if that's not wishful thinking I don't know what is....) or maybe Luther (the singer not Idris Elba) and that too, if rumours are to believed would be pure fantasy and a tad morbid....
For what it's worth, I prefer the first pic but you do make me smile.”
“Ah bless you Deedee. I wish I had the technological know-how to photoshop myself with anyone. It would probably be George Michael circa 1987 (now if that's not wishful thinking I don't know what is....) or maybe Luther (the singer not Idris Elba) and that too, if rumours are to believed would be pure fantasy and a tad morbid....
For what it's worth, I prefer the first pic but you do make me smile.
”
That's my fav of the two as well
I made the other one first and then did that one, I don't really know how to photoshop properly I just used an app called Imikimi on iTunes and you can blend photos together quite well on some frames it's quite easy.
Originally Posted by tennisman:
“Ha, ha, now you're testing me.
<snip>
So it looks like the Taylor and Wade were both in the top 10 back in 1970.
PS Reading through Wade's career, her record was terrific. Met her three times and did not get good energy from her! Cold as ice and very impersonal.”
“Ha, ha, now you're testing me.
<snip>
So it looks like the Taylor and Wade were both in the top 10 back in 1970.
PS Reading through Wade's career, her record was terrific. Met her three times and did not get good energy from her! Cold as ice and very impersonal.”
You're the man! I've always been curious about the seventies rankings. I remember there was a debate as to whether Guillermo Vilas actually had a spell as #1 in '75-76, but for some reason it wasn't recognised by the ATP. Personally I take Jimmy Connors weeks at #1 with a pinch of salt.
Originally Posted by Lisa.B:
“It's not as defined as the ATP's special dispensation clause, but it is in the WTA rule book. Highly unlikely it'll happen though, Garbine doesn't need to do a lot more and the cut-off figure will drop next week. So for those wondering, Konta will qualify if she beats Aga as with the 3805 Konta would have, the marker will dip below that.”
“It's not as defined as the ATP's special dispensation clause, but it is in the WTA rule book. Highly unlikely it'll happen though, Garbine doesn't need to do a lot more and the cut-off figure will drop next week. So for those wondering, Konta will qualify if she beats Aga as with the 3805 Konta would have, the marker will dip below that.”
Nice one. I would be surprised if Jo beats Aga though.
Originally Posted by tartan-belle:
“I usually write a comment in response to the "oh Jo/Laura/Heather/Alijaz etc" aren't British saying you know what, these players identify themselves as British, who are we to say otherwise?
Why can't we just be happy for them!?
Great for Jo, so pleased for her.”
“I usually write a comment in response to the "oh Jo/Laura/Heather/Alijaz etc" aren't British saying you know what, these players identify themselves as British, who are we to say otherwise?
Why can't we just be happy for them!?
Great for Jo, so pleased for her.”
BIB - in fairness, I think almost all the thread regs are happy for her - it's an element of the wider public who have the issue. Highly doubt they know or care about tennis outside Wimbledon.
Originally Posted by LakieLady:
“And didn't South African Tony Greig only get to play cricket for England because one of his grandparents was ... Scottish?
I think anyone who's lived here for a few years should be entitled to be regarded as British if they want to represent Britain.”
“And didn't South African Tony Greig only get to play cricket for England because one of his grandparents was ... Scottish?
I think anyone who's lived here for a few years should be entitled to be regarded as British if they want to represent Britain.”
Pretty much my view.
Originally Posted by tennisman:
“Maybe I need to have a weekend training retreat on multi-quoting at Cherry-Chocs mansion?”
“Maybe I need to have a weekend training retreat on multi-quoting at Cherry-Chocs mansion?”
Originally Posted by tartan-belle:
“ cherry-choc is the master of multi-quotes!”
“ cherry-choc is the master of multi-quotes!”
Originally Posted by Jewels501:
“Tennisman, you know how I love your insights but I fear it would take more than aweekend . As tartan-belle says, Cherry-choc is a master at his craft!”
“Tennisman, you know how I love your insights but I fear it would take more than aweekend . As tartan-belle says, Cherry-choc is a master at his craft!”
Quote:
“On another note, that of nationality - I think we're all singing fro the same hymn sheet but I thought I'd add a personal experience. I wasn't born here but moved over as a toddler. Most of my schooling was here and then we returned to my country birth (not my choice).. I was a fish out of water. I fought and worked for years to return and when I qualified for British nationality, I seized the opportunity with both hands.
Interestingly, my older brother who never left the UK after our initial arrival, never felt British and remained here as a permanent resident. I'm not an athlete and in my profession there was nothing to be gained by taking on the British nationality - it was just how I felt. I barely read any news from my country of birth neither do I support them in any international event.
Of course, some choose a flag of convenience and to some, I will never be British but that's what I consider myself.”
“On another note, that of nationality - I think we're all singing fro the same hymn sheet but I thought I'd add a personal experience. I wasn't born here but moved over as a toddler. Most of my schooling was here and then we returned to my country birth (not my choice).. I was a fish out of water. I fought and worked for years to return and when I qualified for British nationality, I seized the opportunity with both hands.
Interestingly, my older brother who never left the UK after our initial arrival, never felt British and remained here as a permanent resident. I'm not an athlete and in my profession there was nothing to be gained by taking on the British nationality - it was just how I felt. I barely read any news from my country of birth neither do I support them in any international event.
Of course, some choose a flag of convenience and to some, I will never be British but that's what I consider myself.”
Thanks for sharing your personal experience.
Originally Posted by Jewels501:
“I guess my point was (as with tartan-belle's post) no-one can really comment on someone's feelings regarding nationality. Even if I could not have officially become British, I would never voluntarily return to my country of birth. That probably says more about me than anything else..”
“I guess my point was (as with tartan-belle's post) no-one can really comment on someone's feelings regarding nationality. Even if I could not have officially become British, I would never voluntarily return to my country of birth. That probably says more about me than anything else..”
I'm awfully curious as to what your country of birth is now. Nosey beyond belief.
Originally Posted by Lisa.B:
“IG isn't the only one. As with Cherry-Choc, T'Pau was also #1 when I was born”
“IG isn't the only one.
As with Cherry-Choc, T'Pau was also #1 when I was born”
I also enjoy Eurovision and not afraid to say so. Seen your twitter and you support the same footy team as I do. Proper spooky
Originally Posted by deedee1962:
“I could do with a good Rafa win but I really don't think it will happen Thought it might again a while back but these days I just enjoy seeing him again then he goes away.
I suppose this could be classed as being a fangirl
https://www.instagram.com/p/BD0q15vh...adee1962&hl=en
https://www.instagram.com/p/BDwqigyB...adee1962&hl=en
I was so fed up of seeing loads of women having photos taken with him and knowing I would never get one I made my own. I cheated a bit by using an old photo of myself from when I was 26”
“I could do with a good Rafa win but I really don't think it will happen
Thought it might again a while back but these days I just enjoy seeing him again then he goes away.I suppose this could be classed as being a fangirl
https://www.instagram.com/p/BD0q15vh...adee1962&hl=en
https://www.instagram.com/p/BDwqigyB...adee1962&hl=en
I was so fed up of seeing loads of women having photos taken with him and knowing I would never get one I made my own. I cheated a bit by using an old photo of myself from when I was 26
”
Classic deedee
It's about four hours away, but I'm really looking forward to the Tokyo final between Kyrgios and Goffin. Daveed will have his work cut out if Nick's focused. Will look to take the ball early inside the baseline but Nick's weight of shot will force him deep.
Sorry peeps but it's Aga all the way for me. Although I will be happy if Jo wins too. Its quite nice to be happy either way.
Originally Posted by tennisman:
“You are welcome.
Of course, Ann HJ won Wimbledon in 1969, so may well have been in the top 10 as well as Wade and Roger Taylor.
With CT, our men (Sangster, Wilson, Knight etc) although good players at World level would not have been top 10, although I've seen no lists.
Crosses my mind that we could use the seedings lists for the GSlams pre circa 1966?”
“You are welcome.
Of course, Ann HJ won Wimbledon in 1969, so may well have been in the top 10 as well as Wade and Roger Taylor.
With CT, our men (Sangster, Wilson, Knight etc) although good players at World level would not have been top 10, although I've seen no lists.
Crosses my mind that we could use the seedings lists for the GSlams pre circa 1966?”
They only had 8 seeds most years so not all top 10 players would necessarily get seeded.
At Wimbledon (post war and pre-Open tennis):
Men:
1959 (8 seeds): Bobby Wilson 4th
1963 (8 seeds): Mike Sangster 8th
Billy Knight was never seeded at Wimbledon.
Women (8 seeds throughout):
1946: Kay Menzies 4th, Jean Bostock 6th
1947: Kay Menzies 6th, Jean Bostock 8th
1948: Jean Bostock 5th
1949: Jean Quertier 6th, Austina Martlett 8th
1950: Betty Harrison 6th
1951: Jean Walker-Smith 8th
1952: Jean Walker-Smith 6th, Jean Rinkel Quertier 7th
1953: Angela Mortimer 5th, Helen Fletcher 6th
1954: Angela Mortimer 6th, Helen Fletcher 7th
1955: Angela Mortimer 4th, Angela Buxton 8th
1956: Angela Mortimer 3rd, Angela Buxton 6th, Shirley Bloomer 8th
1957: Shirley Bloomer 3rd, Angela Mortimer 7th
1958: Christine Truman 2nd. Shirley Bloomer 5th
1959: Christine Truman 1st, Angela Mortimer 2nd, Ann Haydon 8th
1960: Christine Truman 3rd, Ann Haydon 4th, Angela Mortimer 5th
1961: Ann Haydon 3rd, Christine Truman 6th, Angela Mortimer 7th
1962: Ann Haydon Jones 5th, Angela Mortimer 6th
1963: Ann Haydon-Jones 3rd
1964: Ann Haydon-Jones 6th
1966: Ann Haydon-Jones 3rd
1967: Ann Haydon-Jones 3rd, Virginia Wade 8th
These seedings would have been done by committee who would doubtless have been more aware of home players performances than those of foreign competitors so probably bumped our players up a bit.
Seedings for the other slams are on Wikipedia if you want to check them!
Aga shocked herself with that ace. Aga didn't drop a set all tournament and showed the benefits of being able to keep it clean and consistent. Having another end of season flourish, which all helps create the cushion with those looming Singapore points to defend.
Jo can't be disappointed, she's had her glass ceiling moment this week, cracking the top 10 and she's put herself in contention for Singapore. The good news on that front is that the remaining hopefuls will be taking points off each other in Linz while it's only really Konta and Kerber left to vulture HK. Speaking of, Konta will open against Broady.
Aga didn't drop a set all tournament and showed the benefits of being able to keep it clean and consistent. Having another end of season flourish, which all helps create the cushion with those looming Singapore points to defend.Jo can't be disappointed, she's had her glass ceiling moment this week, cracking the top 10 and she's put herself in contention for Singapore. The good news on that front is that the remaining hopefuls will be taking points off each other in Linz while it's only really Konta and Kerber left to vulture HK. Speaking of, Konta will open against Broady.
Originally Posted by Lisa.B:
“Jo can't be disappointed, she's had her glass ceiling moment this week, cracking the top 10 and she's put herself in contention for Singapore. The good news on that front is that the remaining hopefuls will be taking points off each other in Linz while it's only really Konta and Kerber left to vulture HK. Speaking of, Konta will open against Broady.”
“Jo can't be disappointed, she's had her glass ceiling moment this week, cracking the top 10 and she's put herself in contention for Singapore. The good news on that front is that the remaining hopefuls will be taking points off each other in Linz while it's only really Konta and Kerber left to vulture HK. Speaking of, Konta will open against Broady.”
And Kuznetsova is in Tianjin along with Aga.
Originally Posted by Lisa.B:
“Aga shocked herself with that ace. Aga didn't drop a set all tournament and showed the benefits of being able to keep it clean and consistent. Having another end of season flourish, which all helps create the cushion with those looming Singapore points to defend.
Jo can't be disappointed, she's had her glass ceiling moment this week, cracking the top 10 and she's put herself in contention for Singapore. The good news on that front is that the remaining hopefuls will be taking points off each other in Linz while it's only really Konta and Kerber left to vulture HK. Speaking of, Konta will open against Broady.”
“Aga shocked herself with that ace.
Aga didn't drop a set all tournament and showed the benefits of being able to keep it clean and consistent. Having another end of season flourish, which all helps create the cushion with those looming Singapore points to defend.Jo can't be disappointed, she's had her glass ceiling moment this week, cracking the top 10 and she's put herself in contention for Singapore. The good news on that front is that the remaining hopefuls will be taking points off each other in Linz while it's only really Konta and Kerber left to vulture HK. Speaking of, Konta will open against Broady.”
It's only Cibulkova that Konta needs to be worried about now really. Match what she does this week and she will be in Singapore.
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