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Old 17-10-2016, 09:22
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Ha! Knew it. She's got too many other things going on right now to focus on tennis. I think she'll just focus on slams now and wind up her career maybe next year if she wins one more slam.

Does that mean Jo will be able to play in Singapore now?
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Old 17-10-2016, 09:40
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Nick banned for 8 weeks
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Old 17-10-2016, 09:40
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Ha! Knew it. She's got too many other things going on right now to focus on tennis. I think she'll just focus on slams now and wind up her career maybe next year if she wins one more slam.

Does that mean Jo will be able to play in Singapore now?
Only if she is fit, and doesnt get overtaken by someone else. Only one player can overtake her (Suarez Navarro) and she would have to win in Moscow this week in order to do so.

Kuznetsova will fall 15 points short of Konta if she wins Moscow.

And yes to the person who asked about Kerber, she is now guaranteed to be #1 at the end of the year. 3020 points ahead of 3rd place in the YTD list.
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Old 17-10-2016, 09:48
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Only if she is fit, and doesnt get overtaken by someone else. Only one player can overtake her (Suarez Navarro) and she would have to win in Moscow this week in order to do so.

Kuznetsova will fall 15 points short of Konta if she wins Moscow.

And yes to the person who asked about Kerber, she is now guaranteed to be #1 at the end of the year. 3020 points ahead of 3rd place in the YTD list.
Hopefully Jo will be fit to play.
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Old 17-10-2016, 09:53
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Reduced to 3 weeks if he sees sports psychologist. Judging from his statement on his website he's taking the full 8 weeks.

I think he should see someone to help him with his issue, but I don't agree with the ban.

I'm no doubt in the minority on this.
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Old 17-10-2016, 09:57
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And yes to the person who asked about Kerber, she is now guaranteed to be #1 at the end of the year. 3020 points ahead of 3rd place in the YTD list.
Thanks, that's great news. Kerber has been the best player this year by far.

Reduced to 3 weeks if he sees sports psychologist. Judging from his statement on his website he's taking the full 8 weeks.

I think he should see someone to help him with his issue, but I don't agree with the ban.

I'm no doubt in the minority on this.
It seems a bit short sighted to refuse the psychologist, but maybe he thinks he will benefit from the break. He's certainly a complicated guy.
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Old 17-10-2016, 10:02
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Ha! Knew it. She's got too many other things going on right now to focus on tennis. I think she'll just focus on slams now and wind up her career maybe next year if she wins one more slam.

Does that mean Jo will be able to play in Singapore now?
The BBC are saying that Kuznetsova could overtake Konta if she wins the title in Moscow, and not just if Suarez Navarro wins the title.
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Old 17-10-2016, 10:04
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The BBC are saying that Kuznetsova could overtake Konta if she wins the title in Moscow, and not just if Suarez Navarro wins the title.
Don't think Sveta will win Moscow. Depends who else is playing I suppose.
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Old 17-10-2016, 10:55
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The BBC are saying that Kuznetsova could overtake Konta if she wins the title in Moscow, and not just if Suarez Navarro wins the title.
Yes, I misread a digit! She would go 85 points ahead of Konta by winning Moscow. Apologies.
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Old 17-10-2016, 10:57
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Reduced to 3 weeks if he sees sports psychologist. Judging from his statement on his website he's taking the full 8 weeks

I think he should see someone to help him with his issue, but I don't agree with the ban.

I'm no doubt in the minority on this.
He may as well take the full 8, assuming the ban continues into the off-season. Even if he takes the 3 weeks he still misses Paris and there is nothing else for him to enter after that anyway until the New Year.
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Old 17-10-2016, 12:20
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I guess Serena needs to keep rehabbing her shoulder in Disney World. I think the only time she's touched a racquet since the USO was when she did that thing in Italy with Novak.

Kyrgios should take the assistance being offered to try and nip this behaviour in the bud once and for all.
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Old 17-10-2016, 13:13
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Close enough
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Old 17-10-2016, 13:16
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Nick K

He's got to be in big trouble now You can't argue with somebody in the crowd!
How true this turned out to be
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Old 17-10-2016, 13:42
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Kuznetsova or carla need to win in Moscow to qualify now but they are the top seeds. Gonna be touch and go for Jo but least she has hope now
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Old 17-10-2016, 13:52
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Is Serena hoping for a wildcard entrant for the Oscar nominations in the new year? I took your advice Lisa and had a look at her snapchat... yeah I don't think Singapore was on her agenda at any point. Up to her I guess, at this stage of her career she doesn't owe anybody anything. It does make me a little sad though cause it feels like the beginning of the end. I hope that clown Mouratoglou was being serious when he recently said they were targetting thirty slams.

Good to see Nick get a serious punishment, and also good that they offered him help too. I hope he accepts the help, and I really hope there's nothing else going on.
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Old 17-10-2016, 14:01
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Kuznetsova or carla need to win in Moscow to qualify now but they are the top seeds. Gonna be touch and go for Jo but least she has hope now
She still has a chance if someone else pulls out which I suspect they will.
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Old 17-10-2016, 14:17
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Is Serena hoping for a wildcard entrant for the Oscar nominations in the new year? I took your advice Lisa and had a look at her snapchat... yeah I don't think Singapore was on her agenda at any point. Up to her I guess, at this stage of her career she doesn't owe anybody anything. It does make me a little sad though cause it feels like the beginning of the end. I hope that clown Mouratoglou was being serious when he recently said they were targetting thirty slams.

Good to see Nick get a serious punishment, and also good that they offered him help too. I hope he accepts the help, and I really hope there's nothing else going on.
Her shoulder didn't look so bad when she was shooting arrows with Merida from Brave! This sums up today's news well. I get that Serena wants to preserve herself and the only reason she's still challenging for slams in her mid-30s is because of her part-time schedule, but it does make a mockery of the race format and doesn't look good in promoting the tour and the events when its main star essentially can't be arsed.

She still has a chance if someone else pulls out which I suspect they will.
There's no saying Jo herself will be fit enough yet, then there's Garbine's dodgy ankle.
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Old 17-10-2016, 14:17
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Shiny new 250 in Antwerp this week, the European Open. Tons of empty seats, but it's not surprising when Delbonis-Seppi is the main attraction. Wouldn't get out of bed for that one...hopefully picks up when Goffin's in action.

Andy has won in straight sets. I love him when he is on a mission. If he wins the final the gap will be less than 2,500 points. Still a lot but much less than earlier in the year. He clearly wants no 1.
Andy smells blood. This may be the final chance he gets to ascend Everest. The early-mid 90s mountaineers are tooling up with Sherpas and could emerge at any point in the next 12-18 months.

Well at least Delpo a) isn't playing a Swede or b) Isner in front of of his home crowd.
Swedes are an endangered species on tour these days (both tours). Only one that's remotely relevant is Johanna Larsson. The Ymer brothers are promising but it's still very early days for them.

I suppose the Swedes are preferring football/handball?

Delpo can take Isner, I reckon. Isner is pretty shot by this time of year and in need of the offseason.

Spasibo Moscow. JJ v Ostabrat in R1, what a potentially beautiful car crash we have been blessed with.
Ostapenko will play well but choke it away somehow. Been her MO for much of the year.

Bet Kims sitting at home thinking that that trophy is one to be kept out of reach of a toddler. Could do serious damage.
Dogs, too. Looked a fair bit sharper than my kitchen knives.

Very happy Andy won and the last few weeks of the tennis year is certainly more interesting (on both ATP and WTA sides).

I don't see Andy winning Paris tbh, so all this No1 talk is on hold until next year for me.
I reckon Paris is winnable, but Nole will be tough to take down there (even this version).

It's never really been Andy's style to win 3-4 tournaments on the bounce. He tends to need time to recharge. So I think he can win one of Paris/WTF but not both.

That may mean YE #1 is off the table, but he'll have chances next year in Feb/Mar. Can enter Rotterdam or Acapulco, go further in IW/Miami and that should be enough to grab a few weeks up there.

Andy winning Vienna and merely getting to the final of Paris would be enough if Djokovic bombs in Paris. But there is no rush, between now and the end of March, Djokovic is defending a hell of a lot.

Does Murray have to play Vienna or will he incur a penalty if he does? Not too sure of the rules on how many events he needs to play. Wouldn't be surprised if he pulls out to give himself a full 2 weeks off.
After Shanghai he's giving himself a few days off after the Asian swing so that could help to keep him mentally/physically fresh. All of his matches in Beijing/Shanghai were straight sets but it must've been mentally taxing - there were signs against Simon and RBA that he was coming off the rails.

It would be nice if he made up more ground in Vienna, but the conditions there will most likely be faster than Paris/WTF. He could well come unstuck in Paris without adequate time to adjust to the molasses courts. WTF is where he can gain major points - even more so now Fed's not in the picture. However this is only viable if he has the mental reserves.

Broady & Watson down a set and a break to the Chans in the HK final.

In Luxembourg qualifying Tara Moore leads 6-4 4-4 against Daniela Hantuchova.
Naomi and Hev could've won against a scratch doubles pair but the Chavs are too established.

Chuffed for Peng Shuai winning her first title after all these years and being on the comeback from injury.
Me too. Very nice for her to win a title on home soil.

Reduced to 3 weeks if he sees sports psychologist. Judging from his statement on his website he's taking the full 8 weeks.

I think he should see someone to help him with his issue, but I don't agree with the ban.

I'm no doubt in the minority on this.
I thought he was seeing the psych? Oh well.

Either way, this only covers ATP events so he can still play the IPTL/Hopman/AO.

He may as well take the full 8, assuming the ban continues into the off-season. Even if he takes the 3 weeks he still misses Paris and there is nothing else for him to enter after that anyway until the New Year.
Nick's not played Paris yet has he?
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Old 17-10-2016, 14:25
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Nick's not played Paris yet has he?
I dont get what you mean? Does the ban only come in AFTER Paris then?
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Old 17-10-2016, 14:28
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I dont get what you mean? Does the ban only come in AFTER Paris then?
Soz, I meant in his career. I looked it up and yeah, he's never played it.

Should've clarified.
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Old 17-10-2016, 14:39
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I dont get what you mean? Does the ban only come in AFTER Paris then?
I see. Would it be mandatory for him to play in it though now given his ranking? Of course if he is banned for it, it is all moot

If the 8 weeks of the ban includes the off-season, I dont blame him for not taking the 3 week option.
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Old 17-10-2016, 14:48
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Zverev has cracked the top 20. I expect a bit of a comedown next year but he should start to make bigger strides in 2018. Looking forward to seeing what he can do at the slams.

Meanwhile, good news for Maria Sharapova fans, for she has risen two places in this weeks WTA rankings. Still ahead of Lisicki
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Old 17-10-2016, 14:57
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Is Serena hoping for a wildcard entrant for the Oscar nominations in the new year? I took your advice Lisa and had a look at her snapchat... yeah I don't think Singapore was on her agenda at any point. Up to her I guess, at this stage of her career she doesn't owe anybody anything. It does make me a little sad though cause it feels like the beginning of the end. I hope that clown Mouratoglou was being serious when he recently said they were targetting thirty slams.

Good to see Nick get a serious punishment, and also good that they offered him help too. I hope he accepts the help, and I really hope there's nothing else going on.
Is there any chance we could instate a thread rule that Patrick must always be referred to as 'that clown Mouratoglou'?
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Old 17-10-2016, 14:59
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Is there any chance we could instate a thread rule that Patrick must always be referred to as 'that clown Mouratoglou'?
I'm in favour!
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Old 17-10-2016, 15:11
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I see. Would it be mandatory for him to play in it though now given his ranking? Of course if he is banned for it, it is all moot

If the 8 weeks of the ban includes the off-season, I dont blame him for not taking the 3 week option.
Yeah, Paris is mandatory for top 40 (or thereabouts).

If they want out of it they'll have to cite an injury. Or they could show up in semi-tank mode...Nick made it far too blatant. That half arsed serve and walk back to the chair against Zverev was all over social media and reflected very badly on the ATP. He'd have probably got away with it on an untelevised court in a 250/500.

ATP are like the FA, only doing something for PR reasons. Logic and consistency cannot be found.

Zverev has cracked the top 20. I expect a bit of a comedown next year but he should start to make bigger strides in 2018. Looking forward to seeing what he can do at the slams.

Meanwhile, good news for Maria Sharapova fans, for she has risen two places in this weeks WTA rankings. Still ahead of Lisicki
I love how Lisicki is still the measuring stick for everything

Is there any chance we could instate a thread rule that Patrick must always be referred to as 'that clown Mouratoglou'?
Twas hoping Mouldyglou would catch on, but eh
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