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The Tennis Thread (Part 31)
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Jimmy Connors
06-11-2016
Love reading all the quotes from various players. Just shows how popular Andy is.


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“Jo Durie
‏@Jodurie

To be #1 in the world at anything is amazing & for Andy,in this era,is just a superb feat.”

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“Tracy Austin ‏@thetracyaustin 12h12 hours ago

Andy has won majors, Olympic gold, and Davis Cup! Now World #1 after 76 weeks #2. So well deserved @andy_murray‼️”

seansnotmyname@
06-11-2016
Well done Andy, and happy for his fans.

in other news this WTA season is offically ending, thank **** for that. Been a horror show for me.

Still time for Cornet to drag Garbine on Twitter, which is fun, I'm looking forward to next year being vicious and much better
vaslav37
06-11-2016
Congrats to Andy.

This is a wonderful achievement- he thoroughly deserves to be World No.1 and i hope he can continue this great form into 2017.

He has a real chance now to win the Season Finale here in London and finally his first Australian Open in Melbourne in January.
Jaccobabe
06-11-2016
Very happy about Andy nr1. It will be interesting to see if Novak can come back. He has a good chance to retake #1 at WTF but Andy almost guaranteed to be back at #1 early next year if that happens.

I said at the time the loss to Sam was one of the biggest shocks of the last decade and it would influence him for quite a while. He still hasn't recovered but not sure if the loss to Sam was the problem or he lost to Sam because of something. Most likely the latter.

I'm not a fan of Novak at all but you do feel this is just as much him losing #1 than Andy winning it. Doesn't make it any less deserved though
anyonefortennis
06-11-2016
Originally Posted by Jaccobabe:
“Very happy about Andy nr1. It will be interesting to see if Novak can come back. He has a good chance to retake #1 at WTF but Andy almost guaranteed to be back at #1 early next year if that happens.

I said at the time the loss to Sam was one of the biggest shocks of the last decade and it would influence him for quite a while. He still hasn't recovered but not sure if the loss to Sam was the problem or he lost to Sam because of something. Most likely the latter.

I'm not a fan of Novak at all but you do feel this is just as much him losing #1 than Andy winning it. Doesn't make it any less deserved though ”

Maybe you feel that way but I certainly don't. He lost fair and square and Andy won. It's detracting from Andys achievement to say if Djoko hadn't lost so many matches Andy wouldn't be number 1. Just because Djoko has gone off the boil doesn't mean Andy still wouldn't have reached number 1. He's won 19 matches in a row and on his way to winning his 3rd tournament in a row.
BBTweets
06-11-2016
Originally Posted by Jaccobabe:
“Very happy about Andy nr1. It will be interesting to see if Novak can come back. He has a good chance to retake #1 at WTF but Andy almost guaranteed to be back at #1 early next year if that happens.

I said at the time the loss to Sam was one of the biggest shocks of the last decade and it would influence him for quite a while. He still hasn't recovered but not sure if the loss to Sam was the problem or he lost to Sam because of something. Most likely the latter.

I'm not a fan of Novak at all but you do feel this is just as much him losing #1 than Andy winning it. Doesn't make it any less deserved though ”

I don't see it as Novak losing. I've long thought he was one of the luckiest players in the world. Some of his victories could and should have been losses. I suppose the same could be said for Andy (especially after those walkovers in the past 8 days )
but other players have sensed a weakness in Andy with his volatility when they were always 'deer in the headlights' against Novak.

Novak's bendability also isn't something an athlete can work on, it appears he was born with the flexibility of an elastic band whereas Andy's went from 'skinny rake' as somebody mentioned earlier, to putting in so much hard work into his body and his game and that's what other players can emulate and admire about him.
vaslav37
06-11-2016
The amazing thing about Andy reaching No.1 is that he was so far behind Novak after Roland Garros so to have to finally overtaken Novak is a real achievement.

A win over Isner at Bercy this afternoon would solidify this and give him another 1000 points.
Jenny1986
06-11-2016
Originally Posted by Jaccobabe:
“Very happy about Andy nr1. It will be interesting to see if Novak can come back. He has a good chance to retake #1 at WTF but Andy almost guaranteed to be back at #1 early next year if that happens.

I said at the time the loss to Sam was one of the biggest shocks of the last decade and it would influence him for quite a while. He still hasn't recovered but not sure if the loss to Sam was the problem or he lost to Sam because of something. Most likely the latter.

I'm not a fan of Novak at all but you do feel this is just as much him losing #1 than Andy winning it. Doesn't make it any less deserved though ”

I can see what your saying, when Novak became number 1 in 2011, it had been held by Roger and Rafa since 2004. So he was ending a long streak, and he had beaten Rafa in 5 finals at that point (Wimbledon was where he got it) so he really dominated Rafa to get it.

However in this case, that fight didn't really happen between Novak and Andy because Novak hasn't played well enough to meet Andy in finals, Andy has been consistent and has had great results, so the scales have slowly tipped in Andy's favour. At the end of the day, the number 1 should be the best player in the world, and right now that is Andy.
Get Den Watts
06-11-2016
Fantastic achievement from Andy Murray, especially since Djokovic looked invincible right up until that match against Sam Querrey (so, in a way, Murray owes it all to Querrey ).

Remember the days when you hoped a British player might reach the 4th round of a slam!

He has to try and finish the year as number 1 and maybe next year, he can finally get his hands on the Australian Open and who knows? Maybe he can win two slams in a season for the first time in his career.
Lisa.B
06-11-2016
Congrats to Petra for winning the Elite Rejects event. She's really rescued her season during this Asia swing, she's still coachless isn't she? She had a trial week with Vika's old coach, but other than that everything she's done post-USO has been completely of her own making and she's been playing her best tennis of the season. Maybe she should stick with her own plans and see where it goes?

Originally Posted by seansnotmyname@:
“Still time for Cornet to drag Garbine on Twitter, which is fun, I'm looking forward to next year being vicious and much better”

So caught up in everything yesterday, that completely passed me by. How random.

https://twitter.com/alizecornet/stat...02599326044161
Jenny1986
06-11-2016
Originally Posted by Lisa.B:
“Congrats to Petra for winning the Elite Rejects event. She's really rescued her season during this Asia swing, she's still coachless isn't she? She had a trial week with Vika's old coach, but other than that everything she's done post-USO has been completely of her own making and she's been playing her best tennis of the season. Maybe she should stick with her own plans and see where it goes?



So caught up in everything yesterday, that completely passed me by. How random.

https://twitter.com/alizecornet/stat...02599326044161”

Yep, that Hobart title is far batter than the French open. Cornet has every right to to throw shade at Garbine.....
batdude_uk1
06-11-2016
Enjoy these unrivalled and unbelievable times at seeing a British person at number one, as after Andy, it might be a fallow period once more.
*Sparkle*
06-11-2016
I was out all day yesterday, and was taken somewhat by surprise when someone told me, prematurely I assumed, that Andy was #1. I thought they'd misunderstood the news, because the match hadn't even started yet. Turned out, I was spared from an afternoon of rudely checking LiveScores and trying not to stress too much about it, and instead got to sneak off to the toilets for a lengthy bathroom break to read the reaction!

So pleased for Andy, and his whole family. He has worked so hard, and had brilliant support from them (including his dad who is so often overlooked, simply because he prefers a low profile) and all of the people he's worked with over the years. I think the tennis community knows just how hard he's worked, and how he's come back from disappointment to persevere without bitterness, to achieve such a huge goal.

I fully imagine Sue Barker having a little celebration - perhaps with Henman. Wade isn't involved.
seansnotmyname@
06-11-2016
Originally Posted by Jenny1986:
“Yep, that Hobart title is far batter than the French open. Cornet has every right to to throw shade at Garbine.....”

I like Garbine, but in the end her comments about there being "no real friendships in women's tennis" was always going to make her a target amongst fellow players. It's a bit different to just saying you personally don't want to be friendly with anyone (like Genie, Venus and Sharapova), you are accusing everyone else of being fake.

Personally I found it funny, but she's never really going to get love because of it.
*Sparkle*
06-11-2016
I also want to add that I'm very impressed with Jo finishing the year Top 10. I had wondered if she might struggle once the other top players knew to look out for her, but she's demonstrated she really does belong up there, and she should have improved seedings at tournaments in the early part of next year at least, which may help her go higher.
vaslav37
06-11-2016
Switching to Federer for a moment.

Will he have a protected ranking of 3 upon his return in January?
Jenny1986
06-11-2016
Originally Posted by seansnotmyname@:
“I like Garbine, but in the end her comments about there being "no real friendships in women's tennis" was always going to make her a target amongst fellow players. It's a bit different to just saying you personally don't want to be friendly with anyone (like Genie, Venus and Sharapova), you are accusing everyone else of being fake.

Personally I found it funny, but she's never really going to get love because of it.”

I guess so, but I took that as kind of a joke. She said hey all hate each other which obviously isn't true so it's an odd comment. I mean Kerber goes on holiday with the Radwanska's, maybe they should email Garbine some holiday snaps lol.

She said in a different interview
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“Friends is quite difficult to have. It gets me a little sad, I see every week there are girls my age are all very nice but they are my competition”

which is the more measured response. Putting my psychologist hat on, maybe she can't be friends with other player, so doesn't understand how others can be. Is that called projecting?
seansnotmyname@
06-11-2016
Originally Posted by Jenny1986:
“I guess so, but I took that as kind of a joke. She said hey all hate each other which obviously isn't true so it's an odd comment. I mean Kerber goes on holiday with the Radwanska's, maybe they should email Garbine some holiday snaps lol.

She said in a different interview which is the more measured response. Putting my psychologist hat on, maybe she can't be friends with other player, so doesn't understand how others can be. Is that called projecting?”


I agree with you, but it's not going to look that way to less deep-thinkers on the tour. I fully understand the attitude of Garbine and the like, because I too am someone who can't turn off emotions just like that, but plenty can.

Maria, Genie and Garbine have all talked about being friends with players on the way up, but not being able to play against them properly later. It'a a little sad, but in the end it's their careers.
*Sparkle*
06-11-2016
Originally Posted by vaslav37:
“Switching to Federer for a moment.

Will he have a protected ranking of 3 upon his return in January?”

I'm not sure how long you need to be off the tour before you can use that, but protected ranking just gives you access to tournaments you would otherwise be too low-ranked for. It isn't used for seeding. Roger's ranking is still high enough for all tournaments (bar WTF), so he doesn't need it.
cas116
06-11-2016
Originally Posted by *Sparkle*:
“....

So pleased for Andy, and his whole family. He has worked so hard, and had brilliant support from them (including his dad who is so often overlooked, simply because he prefers a low profile) and all of the people he's worked with over the years. I think the tennis community knows just how hard he's worked, and how he's come back from disappointment to persevere without bitterness, to achieve such a huge goal.

”

Exactly how I feel, every member of his family has played their part in supporting him. Thrilled for Andy, hard work and consistency has brought him to the top. Even if he loses the number 1 ranking in a couple of weeks I feel like he can get it back and hope he feels the same - once you've done something once it becomes more achievable to do it again.
I know he has mentioned the French Open being a target for next year but I would dearly love him to win the Australian after getting close so many times. Fingers crossed 2017 will be a special year for him.
tartan-belle
06-11-2016
Originally Posted by Jenny1986:
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However in this case, that fight didn't really happen between Novak and Andy because Novak hasn't played well enough to meet Andy in finals, Andy has been consistent and has had great results, so the scales have slowly tipped in Andy's favour. At the end of the day, the number 1 should be the best player in the world, and right now that is Andy.”

It's exactly like Fed/Rafa. They haven't played each other in a slam (even a tournament?) since whenever and people hype it up so much if the possibility arises e.g. slam draw. The reason they haven't played each other is because they have been beaten before they could meet, or injured or whatever.
Irishguy123
06-11-2016
Well done to Petra for salvaging something from her season I guess, bizarrely she ends the season ranked just outside the top ten. Who needs more grand slams when you have Wuhan and Zhuhai
Sarn
06-11-2016
Originally Posted by anyonefortennis:
“Maybe you feel that way but I certainly don't. He lost fair and square and Andy won. It's detracting from Andys achievement to say if Djoko hadn't lost so many matches Andy wouldn't be number 1. Just because Djoko has gone off the boil doesn't mean Andy still wouldn't have reached number 1. He's won 19 matches in a row and on his way to winning his 3rd tournament in a row.”

4th
BBTweets
06-11-2016
Kontinen/Peers overcome Herbert/Mahut to take the doubles title in Paris.
Lisa.B
06-11-2016
Originally Posted by Jenny1986:
“Yep, that Hobart title is far batter than the French open. Cornet has every right to to throw shade at Garbine.....”

Meow! Garbine can be quite witty, so when she says stuff like we all hate each other, the media tends to leave out the fact she's usually laughing/being sarcastic when she says it.

Sure she doesn't have a BFF club like the Polish/Polish descent (minus Lisicki ) gang, but she doesn't distance herself to the extremes of others, she's mates with CSN and she's always chatty with the other players when they're doing promo together.
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