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Old 20-07-2016, 01:00
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How good do you think Dan Evans could be, if he keeps improving like this

I think he is seeing how good Kyle Edmund had become, and he wants to improve himself

I can see Evams and Edmund battling out to be Britains number two
I was actually surprised to see how far up the rankings Dan has come. I'd given up on him after all the previous flash in the pan runs in tournaments that never amounted to anything consistent and his own admittance of preferring to enjoy the lifestyle of being a tennis rather than wanting to work on being a better tennis player.

He's more than capable of being top 50 and maybe he is finally rewiring his attitude, it seems that his scheduling - skipping Davis Cup, etc is geared towards to a good run in the USO, which he's done before. Time is still on his side given that everyone seems to be rewriting the tennis age books.
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Old 20-07-2016, 01:55
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Do you think that missing the Davis Cup has ruined his chances of playing against Argentina, as he could have easily have beaten Lajovic and Tipsarevic, but now Kyle Edmund has grabbed his chance now, and Dan might have to be back up
I think if Andy is playing and barring injuries then Dan will not be playing - just a back up. Kyle proved himself, and let's face it he is the reason GB won their QF. Ward was no use at all.
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Old 20-07-2016, 02:40
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Sloane Stephens first ever title defence went very well indeed.. she won a whole three games against world #126 Risa Ozaki

The real news coming out of Washington tonight though is that Lisicki actually won a match
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Old 20-07-2016, 05:28
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That's true. Makes no sense does it.

Dan seems to dance to his own beat as far as scheduling is concerned.
He will need to play Roland Garros next year if his ranking is high enough.
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Old 20-07-2016, 05:30
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How good do you think Dan Evans could be, if he keeps improving like this

I think he is seeing how good Kyle Edmund had become, and he wants to improve himself

And i can see Evans and Edmund battling out to be Britains number two
A very good Win for Daniel Evans- well played Dan.
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Old 20-07-2016, 05:32
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I was actually surprised to see how far up the rankings Dan has come. I'd given up on him after all the previous flash in the pan runs in tournaments that never amounted to anything consistent and his own admittance of preferring to enjoy the lifestyle of being a tennis rather than wanting to work on being a better tennis player.

He's more than capable of being top 50 and maybe he is finally rewiring his attitude, it seems that his scheduling - skipping Davis Cup, etc is geared towards to a good run in the USO, which he's done before. Time is still on his side given that everyone seems to be rewriting the tennis age books.
He has always had the talent- great to see him playing so well.

In the live rankings he has now overtaken Kyle Edmund.
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Old 20-07-2016, 06:58
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Rafa and Roger have withdrawn from Toronto, I'm not surprised but it's a shame for the tournament with Andy also not playing. Rafa apparently started practicing last week, even being ready for the Olympics is a big ask at the moment. I think Rafa will go even if he knows he will lose his first match.
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Old 20-07-2016, 07:16
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That probably wouldnt be enough anyway. Hes 815 points behind in the YTD ranking and if Novak wins Toronto then you can add another 1000 to that.

Then again there is plenty of tennis left in the year - 3 more Masters events after the Olympics, US Open and London. Would be surprised if Andy has entered anything else other than those events. Then again, his website seems to have missed the Paris Masters off!

http://www.andymurray.com/schedule/
Hmm. In terms of 500s, Andy's played Queens and Davis Cup (it counts as a 500 if you play live rubbers in the world group) I think Andy needs to enter a couple of 500s in what remains of the year to avoid ranking penalties (prob Beijing and Basel). That zero pointer from Basel seems to have been around forever. Would love to see Andy rock up in Fed's backyard

Federer is also not playing Toronto, as well as Nadal and Ferrer. Bencic not playing Montreal. Canada is getting hit hard by the Olympic prep/injury recovery...
It's all aligning for Raobot to win his first Masters, I recks. Already made the final here in 2013. He can go all out here because he's skipping Rio.

Also Andy too.

I wonder if Novak will be the next one? I believe Stan is playing though.
Stan tends to have one or two decent Masters runs in him every year, maybe this is the one. Cincy is a bit too quick for him and his average footwork is exposed.

Evans fails to serve it out first time.

He still has one break remaining.
I was fearing the worst after he missed the smash on the 3rd MP. Dimitrov freed up a bit and Evo's footwork and FH went away for 10 mins...just as well he had the insurance break!

Do you think that missing the Davis Cup has ruined his chances of playing against Argentina, as he could have easily have beaten Lajovic and Tipsarevic, but now Kyle Edmund has grabbed his chance now, and Dan might have to be back up
Erm, depends on the court speed/bounce for me. I hope GB pick at least a medium pace court with a lowish/medium bounce, as that way it'll be easier to adjust to it after the USO. In those conditions, I'd favour Evo over Kyle with his more compact swings and decent slice BH.

Argies will bring Delpo/Pico Monaco/Delbonis, all of whom prefer slow hard with a medium/high bounce. That was basically how the Glasgow courts played last year, and it allowed Andy to cover even more court and run down more balls. It would also give Kyle more time to set up for his signature FH. Swings and roundabouts

I was actually surprised to see how far up the rankings Dan has come. I'd given up on him after all the previous flash in the pan runs in tournaments that never amounted to anything consistent and his own admittance of preferring to enjoy the lifestyle of being a tennis rather than wanting to work on being a better tennis player.

He's more than capable of being top 50 and maybe he is finally rewiring his attitude, it seems that his scheduling - skipping Davis Cup, etc is geared towards to a good run in the USO, which he's done before. Time is still on his side given that everyone seems to be rewriting the tennis age books.
Second para is basically what I said, but phrased more eloquently.

Dimitrov's career (or what's left of it) continues to slide into freefall.
Grigor had a career best 2014 which got the sponsors attention, signed a fat Rolex contract for 5 years, moved to the West Coast and is basically riding the wave. He seems to have as much hunger as Tomic now, which ain't good. Neither of their games have progressed to any measurable degree and they both seem pretty spoiled. Same goes for Sock, though at least he tasted doubles success with Pospisil.

Mr Blackheart will only regenerate when the Nike/Wilson/Rolex dough dries up and he has to get off his arse again. Maybe by then he'll have a half-decent website
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Old 20-07-2016, 08:29
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Sloane Stephens first ever title defence went very well indeed.. she won a whole three games against world #126 Risa Ozaki

The real news coming out of Washington tonight though is that Lisicki actually won a match
Hahaha. SS is so funny. You never know what to expect do you?
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Old 20-07-2016, 08:31
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Rafa and Roger have withdrawn from Toronto, I'm not surprised but it's a shame for the tournament with Andy also not playing. Rafa apparently started practicing last week, even being ready for the Olympics is a big ask at the moment. I think Rafa will go even if he knows he will lose his first match.
When is Roger scheduled to play next?
Or Rafa for that matter?

Rio for both?
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Old 20-07-2016, 08:57
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When is Roger scheduled to play next?
Or Rafa for that matter?

Rio for both?
Yep but that's the next tournament on the schedule anyway so that's probs why they are missing it. Roger's being more careful with tournaments as he's got older + he's desperate for that gold although he won't get it this year. He wants to be best prepared for Rio. Rafa said he'd only play if he was 100% as he didn't want to risk Rio so I guess he's not quite ready yet. He's been practicing for 1 week now so obviously not long enough whereas another week or so's practice + he'll be ok for Rio. I think he'll do more in the doubles tbh as he'll have some on to help him but in singles I think he'll struggle. He himself has said something similar.
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Old 20-07-2016, 09:26
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Noticed that Dan Evans is doing the Lexington Challenger event next week, maybe in hindsight he should have given the Toronto qualifiers a go as well! Is it possible to enter both or do you have to commit to one and if you lose in the qualifier you have to sit out the next week?
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Old 20-07-2016, 11:43
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Yep but that's the next tournament on the schedule anyway so that's probs why they are missing it. Roger's being more careful with tournaments as he's got older + he's desperate for that gold although he won't get it this year. He wants to be best prepared for Rio. Rafa said he'd only play if he was 100% as he didn't want to risk Rio so I guess he's not quite ready yet. He's been practicing for 1 week now so obviously not long enough whereas another week or so's practice + he'll be ok for Rio. I think he'll do more in the doubles tbh as he'll have some on to help him but in singles I think he'll struggle. He himself has said something similar.
Roger loves playing Cincy - he has a good record there.
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Old 20-07-2016, 11:53
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Sloane Stephens first ever title defence went very well indeed.. she won a whole three games against world #126 Risa Ozaki

The real news coming out of Washington tonight though is that Lisicki actually won a match
Ozaki through to face Naomi Broady next, winnable match for Naomi
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Old 20-07-2016, 13:05
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Sloane Stephens first ever title defence went very well indeed.. she won a whole three games against world #126 Risa Ozaki
2016 is basically Sloane at her inconsistent best, she either wins the title or bombs out early.

Grigor had a career best 2014 which got the sponsors attention, signed a fat Rolex contract for 5 years, moved to the West Coast and is basically riding the wave. He seems to have as much hunger as Tomic now, which ain't good. Neither of their games have progressed to any measurable degree and they both seem pretty spoiled. Same goes for Sock, though at least he tasted doubles success with Pospisil.

Mr Blackheart will only regenerate when the Nike/Wilson/Rolex dough dries up and he has to get off his arse again. Maybe by then he'll have a half-decent website
As well as those lucrative contracts he signed with Maria and Nicole...
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Old 20-07-2016, 13:36
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Rafa and Roger have withdrawn from Toronto, I'm not surprised but it's a shame for the tournament with Andy also not playing. Rafa apparently started practicing last week, even being ready for the Olympics is a big ask at the moment. I think Rafa will go even if he knows he will lose his first match.
Even had time for a little golf - https://twitter.com/SitTanyusha/stat...09312253693952
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Old 20-07-2016, 13:45
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It's all aligning for Raobot to win his first Masters, I recks. Already made the final here in 2013. He can go all out here because he's skipping Rio.
I saw this on twitter which certainly backs your statement up

As well as those lucrative contracts he signed with Maria and Nicole...
Serious (and funny) shade there Lisa!

Nicole Vaidisova has retired from tennis

Jamie Hampton is keeping busy...
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Old 20-07-2016, 14:02
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2016 is basically Sloane at her inconsistent best, she either wins the title or bombs out early.



As well as those lucrative contracts he signed with Maria and Nicole...
Wow, do you reckon that may actually be true? I always assumed it was just tennis forum insults being thrown around.

Beat me to it about Vaidisova, was just coming to post the same thing. It wasn't much of a comeback anyway, got nowhere near where she once was. Best tournaments would probably be Monterrey and Tianjin, where she managed to make it past the qualies, or perhaps Miami where she beat Timea Babos and then took Halep to three sets.
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Old 20-07-2016, 15:26
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Wow, do you reckon that may actually be true? I always assumed it was just tennis forum insults being thrown around.
In truth I've no idea. The pairings did seem a little odd, but then Nicole's always been into younger men. It's easy to read into things that aren't there and be caught up in the drama, like how Maria was glued to the hip with Camilla Belle and then she suddenly vanished from the scene.
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Old 20-07-2016, 16:48
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2016 is basically Sloane at her inconsistent best, she either wins the title or bombs out early.



As well as those lucrative contracts he signed with Maria and Nicole...
Meow! Gotta love you Lisa....
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Old 20-07-2016, 17:03
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Kerber wins in Båstad after losing first set.

Venus to play tonight will be interesting
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Old 20-07-2016, 17:24
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Kerber wins in Båstad after losing first set.

Venus to play tonight will be interesting
Just giving the tournament max Kerber experience for the money?

The most hardworking player on tour(TM) aka Thiem is a set down to Jurgen Melzer.
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Old 20-07-2016, 17:39
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This has been on my mind for a while now...why are the WTA/ATP cut offs for qualification into slams different? Are they different at all?

USO ATP cut off is ranking no. 98 (+ PR)
USO WTA cut off is ranking no. 103 (+ PR/SR)

Delpo not in USO, hopefully he gets a wildcard into it (assuming he wants to play it and not do more wrist recovery time) as a former winner.

ALSO: this was an actual question to Genie in a presser about Vika. WTF. Worst question of the year?
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Old 20-07-2016, 18:15
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Melzer defeats Thiem. That's interesting dessite Thiem being shit lately.
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Old 20-07-2016, 18:18
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decade hopefully.
Pranjal Singh ‏@pranjsingh 12h12 hours ago

@Aniekie @tumcarayol his name is Paul Choi... But he no longer works as a journalist as of today.
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