The Two Mikes are taken over the Full Contact slot tonight.

As you say a perfect replacement for the station they should rename this station talkPISSEDWHENDRIVING as it's full of drink-drivers, at least they can't any longer be associated with people #anking off in car parks.

Is Jim White another presenter who thinks that the louder he shouts the more people listen?

Has the world's greatest Scouser, the self titled Mickey Quinbo, mentioned Burnley v Liverpool Football Club today? Usually very quiet about LFC when they get beat and if they are down below the top 4 he says " de leeg lies".
I did hear him say "my beluvved team" regarding Newcastle United Football Club because they'd won the last couple of games. This guy has more faces than the town hall clock.

The same Micky Quinn who won bugger all after being moved pillar to post in England.

The same Micky Quinn who a couple of months ago, decried David Beckham for being a 'one trick pony' and 'plastic Manc' [Mr Quinn was born in Everton by the way].

This is the same David Beckham who has won over 20 honours all over the world, made 115 appearances for, and captained his country, helped win the Olympics for the UK, drove the torch to the stadium for the opening ceremony, married the good looking Spice Girl, made a fortune and managed to bring up a family despite being hounded to death by the press and has not been jailed for drunk driving or had a license revoked for animal cruelty.


Dave must be so jealous of that hat trick.

Fantabulous post! ... every word of it accurate. [adds the no longer available clapping hands smiley]

Both TS and Sky have almost entirely based their economic model on blanket coverage of football, particularly the PL, especially the biggest clubs, and hyping it out of all proportion. Sky couldn't cover the Euros, but that very much fits into this ethos, it's the biggest nations with the biggest players, etc, etc.

Sky have tried to diversify a bit, but they're spending more than ever on PL coverage, and with Friday night football coming in this season, there are now more games on TV than ever. And the Euros were extended this year so there were even more (largely pointless) games.

What they don't seem to recognise is that more does not necessarily mean better, and not everyone is as head-over-heels in love with the PL and international football as they think. We can still recognise a sh*t game when we see one, and there are plenty of sh*t games among the hundreds that are televised every year.

If you wanted to you can now watch the PL, the CL, the Europa League, the Football League, the Conference, the Scottish League, La Liga, Ligue 1, Serie A, the Bundesliga, the Eredivisie, the Portguese League, the Belgian league, the MLS, the Australian league, the Chinese League, Brazilian football, the Copa Libertadores, the Copa Sudamericana all live...and that's before you get into international football!

It's too much. People are sick of it by the time the international tournaments roll round. That's one of the reasons why the Olympics goes down so well because it's a nice change from wall-to-wall football.

TS obviously have managed to identify a captive audience, and obviously there is more and more money in the game so the hype machine must work to some extent. But they don't seem to recognise that not everyone is endlessly fascinated by what Mourinho is saying, who is being bought for tens of millions in the transfer market, and which manager is about to get sacked.

Having said that, let me just say that Moyes is a crap manager, has done some terrible transfer business, and Sunderland will get relegated this season!

Why all the fuss?

He ousted Shay Given who had to go and find another club.

He is in an industry that pays fabulously well but doesn't offer or reward loyalty.

He played badly at Euro 16.

He knew what was likely to happen with Pep's arrival and is probably shrugging and getting on with finding a new club.

There will be a few suitors and he will not be living under a motorway bridge or eating out of bins.

Move on, nothing to see.

Also nice to see people and their families who are normal. The likes of Max Whitlock Amy Tinkler Jason Kenny & Laura Trott who all did the country proud. None of them whinging about being 'tired' despite having two weeks of the most intensive competition ever. Compare that to our footballers who were so hopeless in the Euros it was laughable.

What also makes me laugh is how thickos like Quimm and Dungbeetle refuse to accept football can learn from other sports. I remember Dungbeetle whinging about the idea of marginal gains and saying it wouldn't make a player take a corner better.

How does he know that? Everything that cycling does it about making an athlete the very best they can be not just physically but mentally as well.

GB simply destroyed the opposition in the velodrome, the psychological impact on the other teams was noticeable.

Until football throws out the knuckle draggers like Quimm and Dungbeetle English football at international level will continue to slide down the toilet bowl.

Shows how foreign manager work. Hart's form ha been poor for ages yet Hodgson wouldn't drop him, it's something England managers need to sort out and get ruthless. No player should be an automatic choice.

Look back at our cycling team if someone is not performing they are out regardless of who they are.

Something Big Sam was alluding to this morning - people forget that underneath the 'long ball' persona he has been given, he has been one of the most progressive managers when it comes to new technology and thinking.

Well he would be on the front of training, and that's good, but he needs to be, because all his teams do his run. Still think tactically he's at the back of the bus. We can't cede possession easily in Tournaments, like we do in the Prem, because a) top players don't give it back and b) the big reason why we do well on qualifying and not at these events is they're played in Summer, you can't play like Leicester in extreme heat.

I just think the Talksport enthusiasm for this appointment (which seems universal) is going to end in tears, and then they'll conveniently forget they were all on board at the start, as they do.

Ooops

1960 France
1964 Spain
1968 Italy
1972 Belgium
1976 Yugoslavia
1980 Italy
1984 France
1988 West Germany
1992 Sweden
1996 England
2000 Belgium & Netherlands
2004 Portugal
2008 Austria & Switzerland
2012 Poland & Ukraine
2016 France

Not the hottest countries in the world in my experience, yet we failed in all of them.

All of them were during summer though, I remember, for instance Paul Mariner being severely dehydrated in 1982. Portugal, Spain, Italy, Yugoslavia al bloody hot in June/July in my experience. We didn't qualify for France in 84, and I'm not sure where your getting all those other places before that. We weren't in Spain in 64 either, they didn't have the full championships like they do now until about '84 and then it was just 8 teams. Didn't qualify for Austria/Switzerland either. Yet this is all pretty irrelevant, as it's only in modern times football has moved on and we haven't.

It's not the only reason, but it combines with point A, that it's much harder to play that way in Tournaments. I wouldn't really call 96 a failure either, we're quite good in England, maybe the weather or summat.

We'll see how Allardyce does, I'm happy to admit to being wrong, but I would prefer a decent foreign coach, because IMO English ones are dreck.

The hot weather didn't seem to bother Wales.

Nonsense. Two games in means nowt. Will Hull win the league too?

Didn't play in a British style at all though, that's rather my point.

Jose Fontes words:

“They’re very physical, play with a lot of heart but it’s not a typical British style of football,”

But you are missing the point. I remember Brian Moore (lwt commentator) saying something similar on his talksport programme years ago, that nobody wants to watch that much football.

Nobody really needs to watch every single match shown live, but the point is the wider choice they have today. When BBC and ITV had the field to themselves unless you were a supporter of one of the "big five" (remember them?) you never got to see your team on TV unless they were playing one of them. Now anybody down to conference level has the chance.

I really don't understand why, if you don't want to watch 15 games a week, you should want to take that choice away from everybody else, because there is clearly a demand for it, as a commercial broadcaster would soon desist if there wasn't.

I've made the point here before, crowds attending live matches are bigger than any time for over 60 years, and there is a massive demand for PL, and not just in this country.

Perhaps at some point someone should ask the question...how come Britain punches well above its weight in virtually every sport apart from football?

I remember di Canio getting slated for having the temerity to tell his players that they can't drink coke and eat tomato ketchup. Moyes I think was also criticised for banning chips at Man United. Meanwhile, I saw some footage of Andy Murray once in a restaurant, and he asked his dietitian if he was allowed to eat dry bread, and his dietitian said no. And all of his staff and coaches were scoffing themselves, but he just did as he was told and ate was he was supposed to eat.

He could quite easily ignore, or even sack his staff, he has the power to do so, but he quite simply wants to be the best. Exactly the same with Olympic athletes, they show this immense dedication simply because they want to be the best they can be.

Whereas it seems to me that footballers in England think that everyone should pat them on the back just because they're footballers. I love H&J, I think their show is brilliant, but even Andy Jacobs seems to fail to grasp this.

I'm not sure why this doesn't happen in other countries, but it seems quite clear to me that there is a massive cultural problem with British football that pervades the whole game from grassroots upward, kids up to the England team. And I would characterise it as being an attitude of "mediocrity is good enough, the bare minimum amount of commitment is good enough, and the old fashioned methods and approach we've employed for decades are good enough". Well, patently none of those things are good enough!

Eh???

Sam deserves a chance to see what he can do with better players. I don't think he is quite the long ball merchant that he is painted. I met JJ Okocha at a promotional event years ago and he spoke really highly of Sam. He can't be worse than the last half a dozen appointments.

It isn't just the knuckleheads. Andy Jacobs is always moaning about football being told to learn from other sports.

Well he could easily be worse than Sven and Fabio, who did get us to quarters. He could not qualify and be worse than woy, as I say we'll see..

There's two discussions here, and I sit a bit on the fence. One of course the Olympians should be lauded, and football can learn from many other things.

Yet at times I do get incredibly bored with everything we're good at being used to bash football, in the end, many of these sports are pretty low-key, and though I say again they should be praised you can't compare the biggest sport in the World to some of the minority sports here.

Even in the bigger sports it's hard to see what football could learn from the great Mo Farah, unless they're going to train much of the year at high-altitude, which seems impractical.

Yet cycling may well be something we can learn from.