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Talksport Chat (Part 13)
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Venetian
22-11-2016
Originally Posted by Billy244:
“Anyone hear Alan's reasoning for giving Gareth Southgate the England job?, "he is a good choice for England manager and he likes a few beers" ”

Well Billy, it's the yardstick by which Brazil judges others by, sad really ..
He (and other presenters) are stuck in the 70s. Blame TS' recruitment policy, that said is there one ? If there is it's probably remininscent of the 1970s footballer who passes the medical upon transfer to another Club by having the ability to touch his toes.. ?
Mou Mou Land
22-11-2016
Originally Posted by Billy244:
“>>>Michael_the_Spurs_fan<<<”

Sorry, but I must have a sense of humour failure.
Billy244
22-11-2016
Originally Posted by Mou Mou Land:
“Sorry, but I must have a sense of humour failure.”

Didn't get it myself much but we're all different and we all like different things it's what makes the world go round init.
Billy244
22-11-2016
Alan Brazil and Micky Quinn the 2 dinosaurs of talkSPORT.

>>>http://bit.ly/2ghPZvI<<<
The Difference
22-11-2016
Originally Posted by Billy244:
“With this years Formula 1 season shortly coming to its climax this Sunday at the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix with Britain's Lewis Hamilton 12 points behind German Nico Rosberg for the world championship title I'm hoping Alan Brazil is going to do one of his F1 special reports one day this week on the Sports Breakfast Show to tell us who is going to win it.

Alan's views on Formula 1 are invaluable to us Formula 1 fans out here.

>>>http://bit.ly/2gFNxmU<<<”

One for you and any other F1 fans on here - talkSPORT 2 are debuting a programme about the sport called The Grand Prix Show tomorrow. It'll be hosted by Rachel Brookes (formerly a talkSPORT breakfast show sports newsreader who is now a Sky Sports F1 reporter) with the retired driver Jonny Herbert.

The Grand Prix Show will get its first airing tomorrow night at 10pm-midnight (filling the slot Cricket Week used to have before it was moved to Sundays), but will be repeated on Thursday at 8pm after the Southampton commentary and I'm sure they'll make it available as a podcast as they do with most of their magazine shows. I'm not sure if this show is just a one-off given that it's the final Grand Prix of the season this weekend, or if they plan to do any more. I guess if the response to it is good, they might make it a regular show during the 2017 season.

On the subject of talkSPORT 2 magazine shows, I caught the EFL Review Show last night and have to say I really enjoyed it. Ian Abrahams does a good job as a presenter and Walsall left-back Scott Laird - who has quickly become his regular co-host - sounds like a natural pundit. It would be good if we got more programmes like this, with in-depth interviews with the movers and shakers in the Football League, on the main talkSPORT. Those who listen to the station will surely agree with me that talkSPORT 2 do a great job with their magazine shows - I caught Cricket Week while travelling on Sunday night and thought that was really interesting, The Rugby Show and Fight Club are always listenable when I've heard them too - so I'm sure this Grand Prix Show won't disappoint.
Mou Mou Land
22-11-2016
Originally Posted by The Difference:
“One for you and any other F1 fans on here - talkSPORT 2 are debuting a programme about the sport called The Grand Prix Show tomorrow. It'll be hosted by Rachel Brookes (formerly a talkSPORT breakfast show sports newsreader who is now a Sky Sports F1 reporter) with the retired driver Jonny Herbert.

The Grand Prix Show will get its first airing tomorrow night at 10pm-midnight (filling the slot Cricket Week used to have before it was moved to Sundays), but will be repeated on Thursday at 8pm after the Southampton commentary and I'm sure they'll make it available as a podcast as they do with most of their magazine shows. I'm not sure if this show is just a one-off given that it's the final Grand Prix of the season this weekend, or if they plan to do any more. I guess if the response to it is good, they might make it a regular show during the 2017 season.

On the subject of talkSPORT 2 magazine shows, I caught the EFL Review Show last night and have to say I really enjoyed it. Ian Abrahams does a good job as a presenter and Walsall left-back Scott Laird - who has quickly become his regular co-host - sounds like a natural pundit. It would be good if we got more programmes like this, with in-depth interviews with the movers and shakers in the Football League, on the main talkSPORT. Those who listen to the station will surely agree with me that talkSPORT 2 do a great job with their magazine shows - I caught Cricket Week while travelling on Sunday night and thought that was great, The Rugby Show and Fight Club are always listenable when I've heard them too - so I'm sure this Grand Prix Show won't disappoint.”

Keep Abrahams away from Brazil and the morning show and he is actually half a decent presenter/pundit.
HANDJFAN
22-11-2016
Originally Posted by The Difference:
“ I'm not sure if this show is just a one-off given that it's the final Grand Prix of the season this weekend, or if they plan to do any more. I guess if the response to it is good, they might make it a regular show during the 2017 season.”

It's interesting that you've posted this because I was thinking previously that TS would love to get the F1 commentaries. They already do Moto GP, and the BBC aren't really that committed to F1 considering they've let the TV coverage go. It wouldn't surprise me if full F1 coverage ends up on TS eventually.
The Difference
22-11-2016
Originally Posted by HANDJFAN:
“It's interesting that you've posted this because I was thinking previously that TS would love to get the F1 commentaries. They already do Moto GP, and the BBC aren't really that committed to F1 considering they've let the TV coverage go. It wouldn't surprise me if full F1 coverage ends up on TS eventually.”

I'm not sure about that. Covering Formula 1 live and on-site would be extremely costly, you have to send a commentary and production team overseas 20 times each year, so there is a massive amount of resources you have to put into travel expenses before you get to anything else. Would the amount of advertising and sponsorship revenue a commercial radio station can generate from F1 coverage justify this expenditure? It would be a much more costly project than, say, covering the British & Irish Lions tour this summer, where the bulk of their expenditure will be spent on sending a team out to one country for a six-seven week period, so lots of internal travel but done on a concentrated basis.

In contrast, I think MotoGP is actually a very sensible pick-up for talkSPORT 2 - they are taking on-site commentary on all the races, but they are directly picking it up from the existing television international feed. I wouldn't be surprised if there is a small demand for MotoGP radio coverage, given that for many years it received live free-to-air coverage from Channel 5 and then the BBC, but is now behind a paywall on BT Sport, so part of the following the sport developed in this country now may be unable to watch it live at all, while for F1 fans at least some races are live on Channel 4 with them also televising prominent highlights shows.

I suppose if talkSPORT ever went in for Formula 1, they could look to cover it like that, by simulcasting the Sky Sports commentary (a plausible option when the NewsCorp takeover is complete). But I don't see it myself, simply because the FIA would want to have Grand Prix commentaries prioritised on their main analogue station rather than talkSPORT 2 and many races would clash with talkSPORT's live Sunday 1.30pm Premier League commentaries. I also feel that Radio 5 Live, if not BBC TV, are quite committed to Formula 1 - especially so in the years since the BBC first lost some TV rights to Sky. They tend to prioritise Grand Prixes ahead of live football on Sundays, and I think this commitment is a big part of the reason why the Sunday 1.30pm package was one of the Premier League packages that changed hands when they lost exclusivity over the league's national radio rights.
HANDJFAN
22-11-2016
@TheDiff I think it is quite clear you know a lot more about this than me, thanks for educating me! On reflection, what you're saying makes perfect sense. As someone who isn't a massive F1 fan, but don't mind watching bits of it and have played a few F1 video games over the years, I forget what a massive commercial product it is.
BanglaRoad
22-11-2016
Originally Posted by Mou Mou Land:
“Keep Abrahams away from Brazil and the morning show and he is actually half a decent presenter/pundit.”

When Ian is being Ian he does a very reasonable job. The Moose character should be binned now.
HANDJFAN
22-11-2016
When Arsenal lost to Monaco a few years ago, not in the group stages but in the knockout stages of the Champions League, I bet TS absolutely battered them.

Spurs have lost to Monaco this evening, in the group stages of the Champions League, and unlike Arsenal they haven't lost due to sloppy defending and missed chances before narrowly going out on away goals. Monaco battered them and should have had a hatful, with Lloris being easily Spurs' best player. Tottenham are now out of the Champions League in the group stages, with still one game to go, having lost to Monaco home and away and accrued only four points.

Perhaps you can fill me in on whether Spurs get the same level of criticism from TS.
Mark F
22-11-2016
Cundy and Goldstein are a bit accusing the manager of resting players but then the other day they were praising Spurs calling Kane one of the best in the world!!!!!!

In reality all they do is take the mick out of whatever team loses that night (if its a big team..) and then wind up callers who are probably already stressed and angry.
Billy244
22-11-2016
Originally Posted by The Difference:
“One for you and any other F1 fans on here - talkSPORT 2 are debuting a programme about the sport called The Grand Prix Show tomorrow. It'll be hosted by Rachel Brookes (formerly a talkSPORT breakfast show sports newsreader who is now a Sky Sports F1 reporter) with the retired driver Jonny Herbert.

The Grand Prix Show will get its first airing tomorrow night at 10pm-midnight (filling the slot Cricket Week used to have before it was moved to Sundays), but will be repeated on Thursday at 8pm after the Southampton commentary and I'm sure they'll make it available as a podcast as they do with most of their magazine shows. I'm not sure if this show is just a one-off given that it's the final Grand Prix of the season this weekend, or if they plan to do any more. I guess if the response to it is good, they might make it a regular show during the 2017 season.

On the subject of talkSPORT 2 magazine shows, I caught the EFL Review Show last night and have to say I really enjoyed it. Ian Abrahams does a good job as a presenter and Walsall left-back Scott Laird - who has quickly become his regular co-host - sounds like a natural pundit. It would be good if we got more programmes like this, with in-depth interviews with the movers and shakers in the Football League, on the main talkSPORT. Those who listen to the station will surely agree with me that talkSPORT 2 do a great job with their magazine shows - I caught Cricket Week while travelling on Sunday night and thought that was really interesting, The Rugby Show and Fight Club are always listenable when I've heard them too - so I'm sure this Grand Prix Show won't disappoint.”

As a general rule I know better than to listen to anything talkSPORT do because it's usually ruined by poor presenting skills and constant commercial breaks but I will try to listen to this show you've highlighted Dif because I very much like Johnny Herbert and so at least I know he'll be good.
BanglaRoad
22-11-2016
Originally Posted by Billy244:
“As a general rule I know better than to listen to anything talkSPORT do because it's usually ruined by poor presenting skills and constant commercial breaks but I will try to listen to this show you've highlighted Dif because I very much like Johnny Herbert and so at least I know he'll be good.”

Have you seen the width of the tyres for next year Bill?
Billy244
22-11-2016
Originally Posted by HANDJFAN:
“It's interesting that you've posted this because I was thinking previously that TS would love to get the F1 commentaries. They already do Moto GP, and the BBC aren't really that committed to F1 considering they've let the TV coverage go. It wouldn't surprise me if full F1 coverage ends up on TS eventually.”

Please for god's sake don't ever let it happen.

You can just imagine it ....

SPONSORED BY WICKES DIY.

"And we're coming up to lap 3 but before that a short break"

"Welcome back to lap 7....."

"Hamilton's just completed lap 15 and as he enters the chicane a quick sports update from the Moose on tonight's premier league fixtures"

"Over to our track-side reporter Alan Brazil" .... [Brazil] "Bang whoosh the champagne's flowing 'ere in th' McLaren garage here listeners ah cannae see anythin' oot thare oan th' track sae back tae the main commentary"

"Welcome back now back after the main news headlines"

"Rosberg's just, ... Oops I'm late with 'Traffic and Travel' straight back to the action after this...."

"Hamilton crosses the finishing line just ahead of Rosberg to win the race we'll fill you in on the other placings after this short break"



No thanks leave it to the professionals over at BBC Radio 5 Live.
Billy244
22-11-2016
Originally Posted by BanglaRoad:
“Have you seen the width of the tyres for next year Bill?”

I haven't Bangla but I've heard talk of it while watching the F1 on SKY. Different rules next season think it's a move to bollocks up Mercedes monopolising the sport similar to what they did with Red Bull and Sebastian Vettel.
swfcforever
23-11-2016
Originally Posted by Billy244:
“Please for god's sake don't ever let it happen.

You can just imagine it ....

SPONSORED BY WICKES DIY.

"And we're coming up to lap 3 but before that a short break"

"Welcome back to lap 7....."

"Hamilton's just completed lap 15 and as he enters the chicane a quick sports update from the Moose on tonight's premier league fixtures"

"Over to our track-side reporter Alan Brazil" .... [Brazil] "Bang whoosh the champagne's flowing 'ere in th' McLaren garage here listeners ah cannae see anythin' oot thare oan th' track sae back tae the main commentary"

"Welcome back now back after the main news headlines"

"Rosberg's just, ... Oops I'm late with 'Traffic and Travel' straight back to the action after this...."

"Hamilton crosses the finishing line just ahead of Rosberg to win the race we'll fill you in on the other placings after this short break"



No thanks leave it to the professionals over at BBC Radio 5 Live.”

Never knew you had a Crystal Ball. That sounds like it would be sooo true to life . Made me laugh big style on bus to work
swfcforever
23-11-2016
Originally Posted by Mark F:
“Cundy and Goldstein are a bit accusing the manager of resting players but then the other day they were praising Spurs calling Kane one of the best in the world!!!!!!

In reality all they do is take the mick out of whatever team loses that night (if its a big team..) and then wind up callers who are probably already stressed and angry.”

That is so true. They are both wind up merchants. But I think Cundy is okay on his own when doing phone-in's. Mind you I think they are both better when they are with other presenters
clayton_st
23-11-2016
As said above, if it had been Arsenal that had been dumped out of the Champs League instead of Spurs then TS would be giving Mr Wenger and the AFC non stop abuse
and would have ripped them to bits. Because the station is ruled by Spurs fans then it has only been half hearted criticism and a load of excuses from the one eyed staff.
Cundy is even slagging off Mesut Ozil in trails for his show with the execrable Andy Gols
which is a bit rich from a mediocre never amounted to much, big booter )Cundy) to a World Cup winner(Ozil).

Poor Alan. His co host, the Romford Pele, made fun of Alan's beloved Celtic ,who are playing Barca tonight. Alan bristled up straight away and whined something about Celtic winning the European Cup (49 yrs ago) and how he would support PSG tonight against ray's Arsenal. He just can't take it.

Now I know that Parlour is not the best pundit around but he does seem a pleasant guy with whom you could have a good session down your local(in moderation of course) whereas most of the others at TS you'd try to avoid socially.
Billy244
23-11-2016
Alan tested Ray with a quiz on major events in British history today, Alan didn't miss the opportunity to name-drop a few establishments naturally.

>>>http://bit.ly/2ggeYSA<<<
Billy244
23-11-2016
What a very generous thing talkSPORT are doing inviting the less fortunate into the studios this Christmas time to participate with the presenters on air well done talkSPORT.

First to visit was Ronnie Irani who took time off from working in the soup kitchen to help co-present the Henk Potts financial spot. Well done as well Ronnie you sounded really up on it all.

>>>Henk Potts spot this morning<<<
The Difference
23-11-2016
Originally Posted by Billy244:
“As a general rule I know better than to listen to anything talkSPORT do because it's usually ruined by poor presenting skills and constant commercial breaks but I will try to listen to this show you've highlighted Dif because I very much like Johnny Herbert and so at least I know he'll be good.”

If there's a podcast of said show on talkSPORT.com, they'll just upload the 50 minutes or so of the programme minus any commercial breaks. That's what they do with the EFL Review anyway. Also, there seems to be fewer and shorter commercial breaks during talkSPORT 2 magazine shows than there is during the typical talkSPORT show (live football coverage excepted).
BanglaRoad
23-11-2016
Loved your tS F1 commentary Billy!
You want to work on Paxman interviewing RCI on the stock market or something like that.
Seb.Melmoth
23-11-2016
Originally Posted by The Difference:
“If there's a podcast of said show on talkSPORT.com, they'll just upload the 50 minutes or so of the programme minus any commercial breaks. That's what they do with the EFL Review anyway...”

Do they also cut the advertisements for other programmes on the station? Some of them - a lot of the Drive ones and the Jim White ones - are utterly awful and must have been put together after about 30 seconds thought.
FrostyJim
23-11-2016
Originally Posted by Seb.Melmoth:
“Do they also cut the advertisements for other programmes on the station? Some of them - a lot of the Drive ones and the Jim White ones - are utterly awful and must have been put together after about 30 seconds thought.”

They do for "The Two Mikes" but they actually put effort into that. Probably because most of their listeners listen that way over live due to the shows time.
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