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Kylie's tragedy raises the fine line..
BBKINGREALITY
18-07-2016
In that situation do you risk putting yourself in serious danger or do you stay safe at the expense of someone your close to?. I've often worried about this situation because I don't deal with confrontation well at all. I'm short & very slim as well which doesn't help. It's easy to say 'do something!' but do what exactly? If you intervene you're sacrificing ur own life for someone else. It's a horrific dilemma ..
James_Langan
18-07-2016
Originally Posted by BBKINGREALITY:
“In that situation do you risk putting yourself in serious danger or do you stay safe at the expense of someone your close to?. I've often worried about this situation because I don't deal with confrontation well at all. I'm short & very slim as well which doesn't help. It's easy to say 'do something!' but do what exactly? If you intervene you're sacrificing ur own life for someone else. It's a horrific dilemma ..”

In most situations you are more likely to take action if there's nobody around. You have only yourself to answer to. All the scientific tests have proven when a group is present it gives you the opportunity to stay out of any action and later spread the guilt by telling yourself I wasn't the only one there. It's the old group mentality. I was waiting for someone to do something and I would have helped.
notdebbiedingle
18-07-2016
Originally Posted by BBKINGREALITY:
“In that situation do you risk putting yourself in serious danger or do you stay safe at the expense of someone your close to?. I've often worried about this situation because I don't deal with confrontation well at all. I'm short & very slim as well which doesn't help. It's easy to say 'do something!' but do what exactly? If you intervene you're sacrificing ur own life for someone else. It's a horrific dilemma ..”

In that particular situation it wasn 't really Kylie that needed help it was Gemma, but then it was a mate of hers so were they just larking about? I presume you are referring to Craig here!! Gemma seemed to have it just about covered till Kylie turned up!!
Kylie herself waded in when she needn't have done sadly, she should have gone to help Gemma on the ground instead of trying to stop Clayton who was running away!!
The police should have been called & Clayton's name & description given for the assault on Gemma, whether or not she was dead which no one knew at the time Kylie was fighting with Clayton!!
BBKINGREALITY
18-07-2016
Originally Posted by notdebbiedingle:
“In that particular situation it wasn 't really Kylie that needed help it was Gemma, but then it was a mate of hers so were they just larking about? I presume you are referring to Craig here!! Gemma seemed to have it just about covered till Kylie turned up!!”

I'm reffering to kylie confronting the thug for Gemma (& maybe craig to an extent). If we we're faced with this situation what would we do? Especially if its our mum or someone else of significance.

Originally Posted by James_Langan:
“In most situations you are more likely to take action if there's nobody around. You have only yourself to answer to. All the scientific tests have proven when a group is present it gives you the opportunity to stay out of any action and later spread the guilt by telling yourself I wasn't the only one there. It's the old group mentality. I was waiting for someone to do something and I would have helped.”

That's a good point, although I'd have to use a weapon because I'd get my ass kicked, no contest!. Also what would you do if ur faced with a gang? Even with a weapon u haven't got a chance..
Lisa_Charlene
18-07-2016
It is a difficult dilemma to intervene or not as you don't know the dangers to yourself. They say in a crisis you can go into flight or fight mode so some people may run away but some people may have the urge to fight and get involved.
davejc64
18-07-2016
I wouldn't have got involved since I am not a character in Corrie.
James_Langan
18-07-2016
Originally Posted by davejc64:
“I wouldn't have got involved since I am not a character in Corrie. ”

The next time there's a disaster I'll have you written in as a fleeing non speaking extra, kebabs sticking out of your mouth. This will give you the excuse for being unable to shout for assistance.
CollieWobbles
18-07-2016
I wouldn't stand around doing nothing like that nitwit Craig, but at the same time it's better to be a live coward than a dead hero.
notdebbiedingle
18-07-2016
Originally Posted by BBKINGREALITY:
“I'm reffering to kylie confronting the thug for Gemma (& maybe craig to an extent). If we we're faced with this situation what would we do? Especially if its our mum or someone else of significance.”

In this case if I was Kylie I definitely wouldn't have confronted Clayton as she already knew who he was!!
She would have been far better off going to see to Gemma & phoning the police, giving them the name & description of her attacker!!
I do realise that wouldn't have made for an exciting story though!!

Going back to the point, if the person I cared about was still being attacked then yeah I like to think I'd have gone to help them, though of course you never really know how you would react in such circumstances!!
soap-lea
18-07-2016
Originally Posted by BBKINGREALITY:
“I'm reffering to kylie confronting the thug for Gemma (& maybe craig to an extent). If we we're faced with this situation what would we do? Especially if its our mum or someone else of significance.


That's a good point, although I'd have to use a weapon because I'd get my ass kicked, no contest!. Also what would you do if ur faced with a gang? Even with a weapon u haven't got a chance..”

If you are walkng around equipped, the police would view that very dimly. wasn't exactly a gang it was one person.

I would have done the same as Kylie if it was one of my friends and I knew both the attacker and the attacked, I don't know why I guess mentally you just think it's less of a risk.

however, random unknown people are unknown quantities or so you think and so I would probably be more like Craig but at least trying to get help (I would hope)

these scenarios are hard to say unless you actually are faced with them.

In my younger days, I would try and break up fights that friends were involved in as there was a big fighting culture and drunk lads fighting is idiocy. I think I had less fear when younger.

Craig is just a kid tho and has been wrapped in cotton wool by beth and isn't streetwise and why he acted the way he did, feel so sorry for him being terrified like that
lollipop1995
18-07-2016
If the person was a family member of mine or a friend (as Kylie was to Gemma) then I wouldn't be able to help but get involved if I saw them being attacked...it would be my first instinct! I'd probably rush in, only thinking of getting my friend to safety.

But if it was a random person, honestly I wouldn't. I'd be thinking it's not worth it. I'd probably rush into a nearby shop and get help and phone the police/ambulance, God forbid I ever get into a situation like that.

I'm a bit confused about Kylie though. Was he still posing a threat to Gemma when she went to tackle him? Surely the best thing to do would be to tend to Gemma and let Clayton get away..the police would no doubt have caught him later and Kylie could easily identify him...Before Kylie confronted him, it looked like he was about to run off, not hurt Gemma again.

If Gemma was my friend I would tend to her and not confront the thug. He didn't look like he was going to pose further threat to either Kylie or Gemma before Kylie confronted him... I could be wrong though..I definitely won't be watching the scene back though!
sorcha_healy27
18-07-2016
Noone knows how they'd react until they're actually in the situation
danyell
18-07-2016
Her first instinct should have been to tend to Gemma. Why chase after Clayton? Did she really think she was strong enough to beat him up? A bad mistake that robbed her children of a mother.
lollipop1995
18-07-2016
Originally Posted by danyell:
“Her first instinct should have been to tend to Gemma. Why chase after Clayton? Did she really think she was strong enough to beat him up? A bad mistake that robbed her children of a mother.”

As David said to her, that was who she was. Tragically ironic as Kylie thought she had escaped that kind of life She grew up hanging out with the wrong crowd who no doubt tried to tackle other thugs if they injured one of their own..so it would make sense to her to go rushing over to Clayton trying to take him on by herself. A fitting, yet very tragic end for Kylie
SS_Summer
18-07-2016
I wouldn't have. If you're Kylie, your responsibility to be alive and safe for your kids is more important than any obligation you might feel to rescue another adult.
Janet Plank
19-07-2016
Kylie would have thought that, as the hoodie is such a wimp. he would probably go running hiome to his Mum if she gave him a clip round the ear. This could have been a really deep drama, but it has been reduced to pantomime by the poor casting of Clayton and Gemma.
davejc64
19-07-2016
Originally Posted by James_Langan:
“The next time there's a disaster I'll have you written in as a fleeing non speaking extra, kebabs sticking out of your mouth. This will give you the excuse for being unable to shout for assistance.”

Not much point at shouting at the TV screen for assistance for something that is happening on there.
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