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EE - Ben didn't think to stop someone in street for help?
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kitkat1971
21-07-2016
Originally Posted by elliecat:
“I'm surprised no one stopped to help, he was in Soho and there would have been police about, there always are when pubs and clubs close and other clubbers would have stopped not everyone is heartless or scared. I know we would have and have done in the past. He was hardly out in the sticks he was in central London. We come back from London at all sorts of times of night and the place is crawlng with police in vans and cars(this is Islington, Kings Cross, Euston areas). When we used to go clubbing we drove through places like Smithfields and always saw police near Fabric.

I think it's really sad that people can and do walk past someone who is being beaten up or who has obviously been beaten up. It's a sad state and I would hope that they never need any help from passers by.”

It's really not heartlessness, it is just being aware of the potential danger to yourself.

I worked in Soho every day for nigh in 15 years and would often be going home very late at night or early hours of the morning and it isn't always that busy.

I have actually called the Police when i've seen incidents happening but no, if I was on my own getting back to a station, I wouldn't go steaming in by myself - especially in that area of London and if it was a man in case it was a ruse. I have stopped to help other women who were obviously drunk or distressed when they were on their own, I've even given them money and put them in cabs so i don't consider myself heartless, just aware of potential danger.

Also, there really are a lot of people in doorways and a homeless person wouldn't actually appreciate somebody going over, shaking them etc. We don't know how Ben was lying, it might not have been obvious that he'd been beaten up if his back was to the street.

What is perhaps more surprising is that he wasn't seen by any police (who do tend to be around at Club kicking out time) when he was looking for Paul as he said that happened before he passed out.
kitkat1971
21-07-2016
Originally Posted by Charnham:
“I am not sure of the distance between Soho and Walford, I struggle with this, its surprising to me there are no police on duty around Soho, to pick up people drunk, or passed out behind the bins, and no matter how far it was for Ben to stumble home, why did no one stop him, not a cop, a TFL officer, some kind random stranger, commutes on the way to work, any number of people should have spotted him.”

I'd agree with this.

Sadly i can believe people missing him, or being wary during the night, but you'd think that somebody would have seen him and asked if they could help in the morning where he must have passed hundreds, if not thousands of people getting from the West End, through the City and out to The East End. As he wouldn't have looked drunk, and there is naturally more of a feeling of safety in daylight and with more people around, it is amazing nobody tried to help.

As I've said, i'd be awary in the early hours, but if I saw somebody in that state when i was on my way into work in the morning, or even from my Office window, i would approach them.

Just googled the distance between Greek street and a friends House in Custom house which is EastEnd, quite close to Stratford so probably about where Walford is meant to be and it is 9.5 miles.
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