I've just realised why the love of her life, Dean, who put her up the duff at 14, never gets the mentions that he used to. It's so that we'll forget she's ever had a child .. err .. children...sort of.
CS: Michelle spoiler
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Originally Posted by davejc64:
“Michelle is a fashion accessories parent to her a baby/child is a fashion accessory to be paraded around when trying to impress others and when not it will be farmed out to whoever she can get to look after it, I expect that's the truth behind baby swap Ryan, maybe the real Ryan baby just wasn't cute enough.
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“Michelle is a fashion accessories parent to her a baby/child is a fashion accessory to be paraded around when trying to impress others and when not it will be farmed out to whoever she can get to look after it, I expect that's the truth behind baby swap Ryan, maybe the real Ryan baby just wasn't cute enough.
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Originally Posted by Adrian_Ward1:
“Funny how Steve Has depression as does Lee in Eastenders. Now they are both Daddies to be”
“Funny how Steve Has depression as does Lee in Eastenders. Now they are both Daddies to be”
Depression can mae you not think right e.g. Remember condom's
Originally Posted by SuperAPJ:
“Of course the baby will be "lucky to have her" as a mum.”
“Of course the baby will be "lucky to have her" as a mum.”
That's assuming she takes the right child home from the hospital this time.
So Leanne and Michelle both pregnant how boring. Michelle didn't want one all that long ago. I doubt both will be successful pregnancies though
Originally Posted by Alex_Sullivan:
“That's assuming she takes the right child home from the hospital this time.”
“That's assuming she takes the right child home from the hospital this time.”
Originally Posted by notdebbiedingle:
“To be fair she did an ok job bringing up Ryan (even though he wasn't actualy her's
) it was only after he went to Uni he had a personality transplant!!
You do make a good point with the boobs though! ”
“To be fair she did an ok job bringing up Ryan (even though he wasn't actualy her's
) it was only after he went to Uni he had a personality transplant!!You do make a good point with the boobs though!
”
Did she? All I ever remember was her screaming at him even when he was over 18, just like she used to do with Steve.
She screamed at Ryan and never even mentions Alex, her real child. Michelle is a crap mother but I expect she will get all gooey and soppy when it comes to wanting/having another baby.
What will happen at the birth? Sinead had her mascara when she was in hospital. Will Michelle have someone mopping her brow and topping up her eyeliner and reapplying those stupid corner filcks?
Maybe we can have a mother swap SL this time and Michelle goes home with someone else!!!
Originally Posted by ewoodie:
“Did she? All I ever remember was her screaming at him even when he was over 18, just like she used to do with Steve.
She screamed at Ryan and never even mentions Alex, her real child. Michelle is a crap mother but I expect she will get all gooey and soppy when it comes to wanting/having another baby.
What will happen at the birth? Sinead had her mascara when she was in hospital. Will Michelle have someone mopping her brow and topping up her eyeliner and reapplying those stupid corner filcks?
Maybe we can have a mother swap SL this time and Michelle goes home with someone else!!!”
“Did she? All I ever remember was her screaming at him even when he was over 18, just like she used to do with Steve.
She screamed at Ryan and never even mentions Alex, her real child. Michelle is a crap mother but I expect she will get all gooey and soppy when it comes to wanting/having another baby.
What will happen at the birth? Sinead had her mascara when she was in hospital. Will Michelle have someone mopping her brow and topping up her eyeliner and reapplying those stupid corner filcks?
Maybe we can have a mother swap SL this time and Michelle goes home with someone else!!!”
Whatever her parenting methods Ryan grew up into a nice decent young lad until he left home & had his personality transplant so she must have done something right!!
I think we're all agreed the whole Alex thing is best forgotten about (Michelle included)!!
A lot of criticisms can be laid at Michelle's door, particularly in relation to the way she, ably supported by 'doting' mother Liz, treated Steve in the run up to his depression episode, but being a 'crap mother' is an unfair one imo!!
Alex has clearly been retconned out of the history of the show. It has been over eight years since last appearance and there hasn't been a single mention of him. I think it is unfair to blame Michelle, after all the writers are in control and decided to ignore the Alex character. 
The writers and producers are to blame, just like they were when Ryan had a magic personality transplant and went from a decent young man to snorting coke and acting a prat.
The writers and producers are to blame, just like they were when Ryan had a magic personality transplant and went from a decent young man to snorting coke and acting a prat.
Originally Posted by Belligerence:
“Oh for ****'s sake!!!
Reminder of how nasty Michelle was to Steve (and Liz) when she thought she was pregnant!
"It's a vasecto-ME, not vasecto-YOU"
Let's not forget she made him go on a diet! And banned sex because of the 'scare'.”
“Oh for ****'s sake!!!
Reminder of how nasty Michelle was to Steve (and Liz) when she thought she was pregnant!
"It's a vasecto-ME, not vasecto-YOU"
Let's not forget she made him go on a diet! And banned sex because of the 'scare'.”
BIBYep, because we all know that contraception never never never never ever works in soapland!
Seems highly irresponsible to me. They are one of the most dysfunctional couples in the show, hardly have any affection for each other, and yet she wants to bring a child into the world?
Originally Posted by notdebbiedingle:
“Whatever her parenting methods Ryan grew up into a nice decent young lad until he left home & had his personality transplant so she must have done something right!!
I think we're all agreed the whole Alex thing is best forgotten about (Michelle included)!!
A lot of criticisms can be laid at Michelle's door, particularly in relation to the way she, ably supported by 'doting' mother Liz, treated Steve in the run up to his depression episode, but being a 'crap mother' is an unfair one imo!!”
“Whatever her parenting methods Ryan grew up into a nice decent young lad until he left home & had his personality transplant so she must have done something right!!
I think we're all agreed the whole Alex thing is best forgotten about (Michelle included)!!
A lot of criticisms can be laid at Michelle's door, particularly in relation to the way she, ably supported by 'doting' mother Liz, treated Steve in the run up to his depression episode, but being a 'crap mother' is an unfair one imo!!”
Yes because any child would be so lucky to have Michelle as a mother even the ones she has conveniently forgotten about and never mentions like Alex/Ryan.
Originally Posted by notdebbiedingle:
“Whatever her parenting methods Ryan grew up into a nice decent young lad until he left home & had his personality transplant so she must have done something right!!
I think we're all agreed the whole Alex thing is best forgotten about (Michelle included)!!
A lot of criticisms can be laid at Michelle's door, particularly in relation to the way she, ably supported by 'doting' mother Liz, treated Steve in the run up to his depression episode, but being a 'crap mother' is an unfair one imo!!”
“Whatever her parenting methods Ryan grew up into a nice decent young lad until he left home & had his personality transplant so she must have done something right!!
I think we're all agreed the whole Alex thing is best forgotten about (Michelle included)!!
A lot of criticisms can be laid at Michelle's door, particularly in relation to the way she, ably supported by 'doting' mother Liz, treated Steve in the run up to his depression episode, but being a 'crap mother' is an unfair one imo!!”
Really? His introduction to Corrie was when he sprayed graffiti all over the Kabin, then he was caught joyriding in his mother's ex-boyfriend's car and was also arrested for shoplifting! Later, he set fire to Kevin's house, took drugs and split up Katie and Chesney. Some of this was the younger Ryan and some the older but does it really matter? He was always trouble. She worked in bands and pubs. Didn't Michelle also go off on tour with a band for months and then a cruise for even longer? And when she first had him she was probably at school all day! Michelle was probably hardly ever there.
Do you? Do you think that excuses Michelle for forgetting about Alex, never mentioning Alex and never seeing Alex?
Sorry but the evidence shows that she is/was a crap mother. As for Amy, Corrie have the nerve to portray Michelle as wonderful with Amy when we never see any wonderfulness at all. Or maybe going round to Tracy's to announce that Amy wants to live with her and Steve whilst sneering and smirking makes her wonderful.
Originally Posted by Sweet_Chocolate:
“Seems highly irresponsible to me. They are one of the most dysfunctional couples in the show, hardly have any affection for each other, and yet she wants to bring a child into the world?”
“Seems highly irresponsible to me. They are one of the most dysfunctional couples in the show, hardly have any affection for each other, and yet she wants to bring a child into the world?”
Quite a lot of people in real life think having a baby will fix a shit relationship so they seem to be trying to cover that real life issue with this anything goes to tick them boxes is Corries motto.
Originally Posted by Sweet_Chocolate:
“Seems highly irresponsible to me. They are one of the most dysfunctional couples in the show, hardly have any affection for each other, and yet she wants to bring a child into the world?”
“Seems highly irresponsible to me. They are one of the most dysfunctional couples in the show, hardly have any affection for each other, and yet she wants to bring a child into the world?”
You are right. It's crap planning just to fit in with another pregnancy SL.
I'm hoping that this isn't another case of Corrie and the disposable babies.
Originally Posted by ewoodie:
“Really? His introduction to Corrie was when he sprayed graffiti all over the Kabin, then he was caught joyriding in his mother's ex-boyfriend's car and was also arrested for shoplifting! Later, he set fire to Kevin's house, took drugs and split up Katie and Chesney. Some of this was the younger Ryan and some the older but does it really matter? He was always trouble. She worked in bands and pubs. Didn't Michelle also go off on tour with a band for months and then a cruise for even longer? And when she first had him she was probably at school all day! Michelle was probably hardly ever there.
Do you? Do you think that excuses Michelle for forgetting about Alex, never mentioning Alex and never seeing Alex?
Sorry but the evidence shows that she is/was a crap mother. As for Amy, Corrie have the nerve to portray Michelle as wonderful with Amy when we never see any wonderfulness at all. Or maybe going round to Tracy's to announce that Amy wants to live with her and
Steve whilst sneering and smirking makes her wonderful.”
“Really? His introduction to Corrie was when he sprayed graffiti all over the Kabin, then he was caught joyriding in his mother's ex-boyfriend's car and was also arrested for shoplifting! Later, he set fire to Kevin's house, took drugs and split up Katie and Chesney. Some of this was the younger Ryan and some the older but does it really matter? He was always trouble. She worked in bands and pubs. Didn't Michelle also go off on tour with a band for months and then a cruise for even longer? And when she first had him she was probably at school all day! Michelle was probably hardly ever there.
Do you? Do you think that excuses Michelle for forgetting about Alex, never mentioning Alex and never seeing Alex?
Sorry but the evidence shows that she is/was a crap mother. As for Amy, Corrie have the nerve to portray Michelle as wonderful with Amy when we never see any wonderfulness at all. Or maybe going round to Tracy's to announce that Amy wants to live with her and
Steve whilst sneering and smirking makes her wonderful.”
Ok, he got into a few scrapes as teenage lads will (have to admit I don't remember the shoplifting incident)!! The 'joyriding' incident as I recall ws a misguided, reckless attempt at retribution for how the horrendous 'Sonny' had treated his Mum (doesn't mae it right I know but excuses it slightly!!)
She may gave been at school to start with, unavoidable in the circumstances but she stuck at it & did her best for him!! There are & have been plenty far worse teenagers on soap and in real life who have had far easier upbringings!!
You say there is really no difference between original Ryan & 'nu Ryan', really????
The guy who came back in the guise of Sol Heras was a figment of Phil Collinson's sometimes rather bizarre imagination & bore not a shred of character resemblance to the original!! He might just as well have been swapped for Alex again!!! The mistake was soon realised & this character shelved as well leaving us with this noe rathrr peculiar limbo in which neither Alex or Ryan is ever mentioned!!
Her probable worst decision ever as a parent was to ever agree to have anything to do with Alex, a child who, whether her's biologically or not, was completely nothing to her!! That I admit was a 'crap parenting' decision!!
Regarding Amy please don't even begin to compare Michelle's parenting with the dreadful Tracy who has made an art form out of being a 'crap mother' but still expects us all to believe she loves Amy more than anything else in the world.....yeah on the three days in a year when she hasn't got something better to be doing!!
Sorry for the typos above, was in a rush but got carried away as I do & didn't have time to go back & correct!! 
Originally Posted by Alex_Sullivan:
“That's assuming she takes the right child home from the hospital this time.”
“That's assuming she takes the right child home from the hospital this time.”
Is Michelle going to use 'raging' hormones as an excuse to bash Steve?
Urgh, I can just picture the 'labour' scenes being totally unfunny and overdramatic...............Sean and Liz probably acting as 'midwives'.
If someone has to miscarry I really hope it's not Leanne.
Originally Posted by Belligerence:
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Is Michelle going to use 'raging' hormones as an excuse to bash Steve?
Urgh, I can just picture the 'labour' scenes being totally unfunny and overdramatic...............Sean and Liz probably acting as 'midwives'.
If someone has to miscarry I really hope it's not Leanne.”
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Is Michelle going to use 'raging' hormones as an excuse to bash Steve?
Urgh, I can just picture the 'labour' scenes being totally unfunny and overdramatic...............Sean and Liz probably acting as 'midwives'.
If someone has to miscarry I really hope it's not Leanne.”
And Steve will no doubt be stuck in a traffic jam while doing a fare. When Liz tries to phone him about Michelle his phone will be on silent.
I can predict what's going to happen over the next six months or so:
A couple of episodes discussing abortion, with a friend.
An episode set in an abortion clinic, where her name's called : end of episode.
Next episode - she's back home. Huge surprise : changed her mind at the last minute.
Miscarriage.
The writers seem to love pregnancies, probably because of all the previous scripts they can recycle, but hate writing for babies. Hence the easy way out.
Just my theory.
A couple of episodes discussing abortion, with a friend.
An episode set in an abortion clinic, where her name's called : end of episode.
Next episode - she's back home. Huge surprise : changed her mind at the last minute.
Miscarriage.
The writers seem to love pregnancies, probably because of all the previous scripts they can recycle, but hate writing for babies. Hence the easy way out.
Just my theory.
If Michelle does miscarry or the baby dies, wouldn't it be a bit of an insensitive storyline to give to Kym Marsh considering what she went through several years ago in real life when her baby died shortly after birth.
Originally Posted by notdebbiedingle:
“Ok, he got into a few scrapes as teenage lads will (have to admit I don't remember the shoplifting incident)!! The 'joyriding' incident as I recall ws a misguided, reckless attempt at retribution for how the horrendous 'Sonny' had treated his Mum (doesn't mae it right I know but excuses it slightly!!)
She may gave been at school to start with, unavoidable in the circumstances but she stuck at it & did her best for him!! There are & have been plenty far worse teenagers on soap and in real life who have had far easier upbringings!!
You say there is really no difference between original Ryan & 'nu Ryan', really????
The guy who came back in the guise of Sol Heras was a figment of Phil Collinson's sometimes rather bizarre imagination & bore not a shred of character resemblance to the original!! He might just as well have been swapped for Alex again!!! The mistake was soon realised & this character shelved as well leaving us with this noe rathrr peculiar limbo in which neither Alex or Ryan is ever mentioned!!
Her probable worst decision ever as a parent was to ever agree to have anything to do with Alex, a child who, whether her's biologically or not, was completely nothing to her!! That I admit was a 'crap parenting' decision!!
Regarding Amy please don't even begin to compare Michelle's parenting with the dreadful Tracy who has made an art form out of being a 'crap mother' but still expects us all to believe she loves Amy more than anything else in the world.....yeah on the three days in a year when she hasn't got something better to be doing!!”
“Ok, he got into a few scrapes as teenage lads will (have to admit I don't remember the shoplifting incident)!! The 'joyriding' incident as I recall ws a misguided, reckless attempt at retribution for how the horrendous 'Sonny' had treated his Mum (doesn't mae it right I know but excuses it slightly!!)
She may gave been at school to start with, unavoidable in the circumstances but she stuck at it & did her best for him!! There are & have been plenty far worse teenagers on soap and in real life who have had far easier upbringings!!
You say there is really no difference between original Ryan & 'nu Ryan', really????
The guy who came back in the guise of Sol Heras was a figment of Phil Collinson's sometimes rather bizarre imagination & bore not a shred of character resemblance to the original!! He might just as well have been swapped for Alex again!!! The mistake was soon realised & this character shelved as well leaving us with this noe rathrr peculiar limbo in which neither Alex or Ryan is ever mentioned!!
Her probable worst decision ever as a parent was to ever agree to have anything to do with Alex, a child who, whether her's biologically or not, was completely nothing to her!! That I admit was a 'crap parenting' decision!!
Regarding Amy please don't even begin to compare Michelle's parenting with the dreadful Tracy who has made an art form out of being a 'crap mother' but still expects us all to believe she loves Amy more than anything else in the world.....yeah on the three days in a year when she hasn't got something better to be doing!!”
There's no difference between the two Ryan's they are the same character. The first Ryan vandalised property with spray paint, went joyriding and got caught shop-lifting.
Quote:
“'he got into a few scrapes as teenage lads will'”
“'he got into a few scrapes as teenage lads will'”
Are you saying these things are quite the norm for teenage lads? They're not in my family. There are no excuses. The second Ryan had merely moved on to more serious things like taking drugs, being irresponsible by starting a fire and splitting up a relationship. Everything Ryan did: vandalising property, joy-riding, shop-lifting, taking drugs was illegal. If anything, the new Ryan probably didn't break the law as much as the original Ryan. The issue with the new Ryan was that he was he looked far too old to be ugs. Michelle's son. But in essence they were the same character and both broke the law.
BIB How do you know she did her best for him? Have we ever seen any evidence of this?
Of course abandoning Alex was the action of a crap mother and all the stuff Ryan did was most likely caused by poor decisions and bad parenting by Michelle.
Did I mention Tracy's bad parenting? Did I compare Tracy's parenting skills to Michelle's? No. So Tracy's parenting skills are irrelevant. They were never mentioned. The point was that Michelle is not perfect as portrayed but was seen to be smirking and sniggering at Tracy when Amy and she called round to say Amy was moving out. There is no evidence whatsoever to show Michelle was a decent mother or that she did her best as the events on Corrie show otherwise.
Not long ago, when Michelle thought she might be pregnant, she went ballistic and insisted Steve had the snip. She's not a nice person at all or a decent mother.
I think they'll both carry full term, well actually I think one will probably be early or late so we have scenes of Steve at hospital at birth of baby 1 when there's an emergency and baby 2 is making their appearance. Cue Steve running from one hospital to another or hiding in the maternity ward cos the other has been brought in.
I think there could be a cot death for Michelle and Steve and Leanne's baby survives
I think there could be a cot death for Michelle and Steve and Leanne's baby survives
Originally Posted by The Snowman:
“If Michelle does miscarry or the baby dies, wouldn't it be a bit of an insensitive storyline to give to Kym Marsh considering what she went through several years ago in real life when her baby died shortly after birth.”
“If Michelle does miscarry or the baby dies, wouldn't it be a bit of an insensitive storyline to give to Kym Marsh considering what she went through several years ago in real life when her baby died shortly after birth.”
That would be an awful SL to give to Kym Marsh. Corrie can't be that insensitive.
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