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Not true. Concealed carry is legal in NI, on the mainland, you can apply for a CC permit if your job or lifestyle means you may be at such risk you need to carry a firearm.
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Then if its a war, stop calling it murder when they kill our soldiers. Or call it murder every time a British soldier kills a terrorist. You just can't have it both ways.
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Sometimes these stories are not quite what they first appear. Remember the credible threat to kidnap and murder West Midlands police officers.
http://news.sky.com/story/threat-mad...ficer-10379607 This eventually became. http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-birmingham-36399687 So unless the attacked serviceman is a member of a peaceful Muslim prayer group... |
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I wonder who'd you'd choose to stand behind (miles behind, I expect) in times of trouble?
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I live in one of the richest developed nations on earth. There are no times of trouble.
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This story seems to have vanished from the BBC News website, other than a mention in The Papers section.
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This story seems to have vanished from the BBC News website, other than a mention in The Papers section.
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I bet you live in the country!
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This story seems to have vanished from the BBC News website, other than a mention in The Papers section.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-36853106 |
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And how many CC permits do you think are given out in the uk. the uk does not allow firearms to be carried. The Police Service of Northern Ireland, are armed. Mainland uk police officers are not
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Locals have been attacking and even occassionaly killing armed forces personal for years up and down the country for the offence of drinking in the wrong pub, looking at a girl funny or having the affront to be stationed nearby.
Nice to see the problem getting recognised. |
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I will call it murder when these cowards jump unarmed service men not on duty and kill them.
You seem to have a problem with the British military, why is that? The way I see it, when you sign up to be a soldier you are accepting that you might be attacked AT ANY TIME. As a combatant you are a legitimate target for the enemy, even when you are just jogging in your free time - your death would give a tangible military advantage to the enemy because all your skills and experience are lost, regardless of when the attack happened. Of course i dont condone or support this attack - or any attack for that matter. I just see it as an inevitable consequence of all the wars we start. |
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The police may have DNA from the alleged attacker after by all accounts the highly trained serviceman beat the living **** out of him.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...or-attack.html |
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The police may have DNA from the alleged attacker after by all accounts the highly trained serviceman beat the living **** out of him.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...or-attack.html |
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Well, if that's the case it might not take to long to identify him. A common theme in previous attacks has been perpetrators with a history as rather inadequate individuals with a series of convictions for petty crime.
Let's hope so. Although inept this time, these scumbags need to be out of action. |
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A common sense solution would be to restrict to training on the camp, or jog in pairs or groups, also have headlamp, radio or phone contact available at all times.
Minimise risks and things become rarer, not everyone is happy with Syrian air raids, so maybe extra security measures on and around the base would be a good move. |
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Ah yes, the false claim made by... Amar Tasaddiq Hussain... and his subsequent imprisonment. "His aim was to discredit an official within Dawat-E-Islami, a peaceful Muslim prayer group."
So unless the attacked serviceman is a member of a peaceful Muslim prayer group... My point is that stories as first reported in the media do not always pan out as expected or follow the narrative that some DS post have already decided on. |
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I think you have the wrong thread. Your irrelevant post is about a different topic.
Oh right, the possibility of OMG MUSLIMS!!!!!!!!!. makes it a serious issue to you whilst regular assualt murder of servicemen is irrelevant in your mind. Says a lot about you, quite a disturbing amount actually. |
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Irrevelant in your mind perhaps, but in reality...
Oh right, the possibility of OMG MUSLIMS!!!!!!!!!. makes it a serious issue to you whilst regular assualt murder of servicemen is irrelevant in your mind. Says a lot about you, quite a disturbing amount actually. I'll not even try to respond, you're diverting on too many fronts. |
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I live in one of the richest developed nations on earth. There are no times of trouble.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/148497...ng-mass-brawl/ |
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The armed forces shouldn't have to deal with on their home territory.
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We attack our enemy on their home territory, why wouldn't they attack us on ours? Soldiers are legitimate targets in war - That includes OUR soldiers. Now if this is a war, which people are saying it is, our enemy is going to attack our soldiers (and this enemy also attacks civilians too). Why would the enemy care if one of their targets is "off duty"? We didn't care that Jihadi John was "off duty" and just driving around town when we killed him. Was that wrong? Should we have waited until he was actively participating in his role as executioner before killing him, or was it a case of "We have him in our sights, he's a target, we take him out, even though he's not actually doing anything right now".
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Are you a member of ISIS.?
Are you saying that our soldiers should be able to attack the enemy, but the enemy shouldn't be able to attack our soldiers? That would be double standards of the most ridiculous order. British soldiers are "our" boys so of course we hope that they win any fights, but surely we should also accept the reality that the enemy might attack our guys from time to time? It's what happens in war, and everyone is saying this is a war. |
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We attack our enemy on their home territory, why wouldn't they attack us on ours? Soldiers are legitimate targets in war - That includes OUR soldiers. Now if this is a war, which people are saying it is, our enemy is going to attack our soldiers (and this enemy also attacks civilians too). Why would the enemy care if one of their targets is "off duty"? We didn't care that Jihadi John was "off duty" and just driving around town when we killed him. Was that wrong? Should we have waited until he was actively participating in his role as executioner before killing him, or was it a case of "We have him in our sights, he's a target, we take him out, even though he's not actually doing anything right now".
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How to miss a point spectacularly.
My point is that stories as first reported in the media do not always pan out as expected or follow the narrative that some DS post have already decided on. |
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