Poor, poor Ben... the writers are really cruel to have done this to him of all people, after everything he went through before he could admit he was gay, and with the father he has.
EE-Emergency Thread: 21-7-16:The Mitchells and Cokers Rocked to the core
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Originally Posted by CardioCortez:
“Harry, Roger and especially Lin were excellent again. Two fantastic episodes in a row.
Love the Jay and Ben dynamic.
The Belinda and Pam scenes were lovely.”
“Harry, Roger and especially Lin were excellent again. Two fantastic episodes in a row.
Love the Jay and Ben dynamic.
The Belinda and Pam scenes were lovely.”
I agree.
That was the episode in a nutshell.
I would add that Belinda and Claudette always add a couple of outstanding attributes to their scenes - and long may it continue.
Originally Posted by owen10:
“Why do people always say
Are you alright
After someone has been killed”
“Why do people always say
Are you alright
After someone has been killed”
Because they don't know what to say. In Ireland it's more likely to be "I'm sorry for your trouble", which is a bit better, and doesn't involve expecting a response, which "Are you alright?" does.
Originally Posted by Aaron_Silver:
“Thanks for the thread Krusty you just beat me to it
Details here
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07lkt4q”
“Thanks for the thread Krusty you just beat me to it
Details here
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07lkt4q”
Krusty going for the crown
Originally Posted by Krustylicious:
“Emergency thread...
What really happened ?
Disuse if offical thursday thread turns up
”
“Emergency thread...
What really happened ?
Disuse if offical thursday thread turns up
”
Not me. I am never chosen
Originally Posted by Neil_N:
“So sad - Harry Reid is a good actor.”
“So sad - Harry Reid is a good actor.”
Burt can he do humour ?
Originally Posted by lola_skye:
“When I see babe I think it's a shame they didn't kill her off instead of Paul”
“When I see babe I think it's a shame they didn't kill her off instead of Paul”
Would Babe be in Soho with Benth
Originally Posted by sorcha_healy27:
“Why is Ben being so shifty?”
“Why is Ben being so shifty?”
He feels guilty
Originally Posted by Desert_Rain:
“Given Bens criminal history, wouldn't the police be suspecting him of something?”
“Given Bens criminal history, wouldn't the police be suspecting him of something?”
For certain
Originally Posted by Neil_N:
“To be fair I do miss Kat and Alfie - they were a good family.”
“To be fair I do miss Kat and Alfie - they were a good family.”
Two awful characters
Originally Posted by lola_skye:
“To be fair what could Ben do whilst out cold?”
“To be fair what could Ben do whilst out cold?”
He could not have started it
Originally Posted by Morgsie:
“Ben tell the truth it is a hate crime”
“Ben tell the truth it is a hate crime”
I don't believe Benth. Yes there was homophobic abuse but I do not believe they were Big men and I don't even believe there were 4 of them. He lost his temper and started the violence
Originally Posted by Tanequil:
“I'm not sure why he didn't tell the police that.”
“I'm not sure why he didn't tell the police that.”
Ashamed
Originally Posted by xTonix:
“Poor Pam, I know it was wrong of her to blame Ben and wish it was him instead, but I felt so sorry for her.”
“Poor Pam, I know it was wrong of her to blame Ben and wish it was him instead, but I felt so sorry for her.
”
She instinctlvely knew that Benth was at fault even though she didn't know the details
Originally Posted by NoughtiesMusic:
“I think Pam blaming Ben was the impulsive reaction, not a reflection on her character. When Billie Jackson died, Carol took it out on Lauren accusing her of encouraging him to drink more.”
“I think Pam blaming Ben was the impulsive reaction, not a reflection on her character. When Billie Jackson died, Carol took it out on Lauren accusing her of encouraging him to drink more.”
But as I remember, that was precisely what Lauren had actually done.
Pam is presented as a very damaged person already, with her complete inability to deal with Len's cross dressing, or put it it in proportion.
Originally Posted by SULLA:
“Not me. I am never chosen
Burt can he do humour ?
Would Babe be in Soho with Bentth
He feels guilty
For certain
Two awful characters
He could not have started it
I don't believe Benth. Yes there was homophobic abuse but I do not believe they were Big men and I don't even believe there were 4 of them. He lost his temper and started the violence
Ashamed
She instinctlvely knew that Benth was at fault even though she didn't know the details”
“Not me. I am never chosen
Burt can he do humour ?
Would Babe be in Soho with Bentth
He feels guilty
For certain
Two awful characters
He could not have started it
I don't believe Benth. Yes there was homophobic abuse but I do not believe they were Big men and I don't even believe there were 4 of them. He lost his temper and started the violence
Ashamed
She instinctlvely knew that Benth was at fault even though she didn't know the details”
if you want be a threadstarter why not Pm Dullagj he will add you to the rota
then I won't have to keep trying to locate my violin
Originally Posted by soap-lea:
“if you want be a threadstarter why not Pm Dullagj he will add you to the rota
then I won't have to keep trying to locate my violin”
“if you want be a threadstarter why not Pm Dullagj he will add you to the rota
then I won't have to keep trying to locate my violin”
Originally Posted by EE.Live:
“It was nice that everyone was there for the Cokers but I think, when Paul was alive, he should've had more scenes with the younger cast and not just with Ben.
I can't remember Belinda and Pam ever having scenes together but I liked them today.
I suspected that it would be a homophobic attack but I didn't expect when Ben said Paul died due to him mouthing off.
SO glad that the episode didn't end with Johnny and Ben kissing. I don't think that they will ever get together but if in the future they do, I think Ben will look at the tattoo on his finger and immediately stop.
Someone pointed out that the police said Paul and Ben were a 'young gay couple' instead of a 'young couple'
I kinda want Paul's killer to be someone the viewers know, instead of a stranger who won't be caught (even though it won't be) - I'd be surprised if it turned out to be someone unrelated like Carl White's brother, Adam.”
“It was nice that everyone was there for the Cokers but I think, when Paul was alive, he should've had more scenes with the younger cast and not just with Ben.
I can't remember Belinda and Pam ever having scenes together but I liked them today.
I suspected that it would be a homophobic attack but I didn't expect when Ben said Paul died due to him mouthing off.
SO glad that the episode didn't end with Johnny and Ben kissing. I don't think that they will ever get together but if in the future they do, I think Ben will look at the tattoo on his finger and immediately stop.
Someone pointed out that the police said Paul and Ben were a 'young gay couple' instead of a 'young couple'
I kinda want Paul's killer to be someone the viewers know, instead of a stranger who won't be caught (even though it won't be) - I'd be surprised if it turned out to be someone unrelated like Carl White's brother, Adam.”
She said this because they were gay? And therefore an easy target when it came to an attack
Really hope Johnny and Ben isn't where they're heading with this. The old we've got two gay characters so will have them shag each other _ Johnny doesn't even remotely look like Paul (although there's an argument he looks a vaguely like Jay who Ben's shown interest in in the past). Much rather see Johnny and Stephen than Johnny and Ben. Especially as Johnny seemed to suddenly decide to be Ben's stalker now Paul's gone
Originally Posted by Corrie_Fan2:
“Really hope Johnny and Ben isn't where they're heading with this. The old we've got two gay characters so will have them shag each other _ Johnny doesn't even remotely look like Paul (although there's an argument he looks a vaguely like Jay who Ben's shown interest in in the past). Much rather see Johnny and Stephen than Johnny and Ben. Especially as Johnny seemed to suddenly decide to be Ben's stalker now Paul's gone”
“Really hope Johnny and Ben isn't where they're heading with this. The old we've got two gay characters so will have them shag each other _ Johnny doesn't even remotely look like Paul (although there's an argument he looks a vaguely like Jay who Ben's shown interest in in the past). Much rather see Johnny and Stephen than Johnny and Ben. Especially as Johnny seemed to suddenly decide to be Ben's stalker now Paul's gone”
But Johnny and Ben liked each other way before Paul happened. in fact Paul only happend because Johnny was meant to get with ben but the actor decided to leave
Originally Posted by NoughtiesMusic:
“I think Pam blaming Ben was the impulsive reaction, not a reflection on her character. When Billie Jackson died, Carol took it out on Lauren accusing her of encouraging him to drink more.”
“I think Pam blaming Ben was the impulsive reaction, not a reflection on her character. When Billie Jackson died, Carol took it out on Lauren accusing her of encouraging him to drink more.”
I half agree with this! I can see Pam being frustrated and with the police initially thinking it was ben before finding out it was Paul you can see why she would say she wished it was ben that was dead. But the rest of the stuff she said about Ben being the worst thing that happened to Paul, that as he had a criminal record he was trouble etc that was uncalled for. She could have just ranted at ben about why didn't he protect Paul, what happened to get them into a fight etc but she made it very personal about Ben. considering how she had accepted been into the family and knew how much he made Paul happy I ephod have thought she would have reached out to ben not push him away. I also thought at least a couple of people might have stood up for ben in the pub - whilst they know Pam is grieving they know ben is too and Steven could have stood up for him or even Abi. They didn't have to have a go back just something along the lines of "steady on" or "it's not ben's fault, Pam".
I always knew they'd pair Johnny and Ben after Paul left, I just didn't expect it to start happening the episode after Paul's death! They couldn't have waited a week or so?
Originally Posted by soap-lea:
“if you want be a threadstarter why not Pm Dullagj he will add you to the rota
then I won't have to keep trying to locate my violin”
“if you want be a threadstarter why not Pm Dullagj he will add you to the rota
then I won't have to keep trying to locate my violin”
How do you know that I haven't ?
I hope Johnny/Ben isn't a thing. Johnny is a worse actor than Paul was for the majority of his time.
Well I've been gripped this week. What a harrowing tale it's been. I was nearly in tears tonight. The actors portraying Ben, Jay, Pam and Les have been wonderful.
Well I've been gripped this week. What a harrowing tale it's been. I was nearly in tears tonight. The actors portraying Ben, Jay, Pam and Les have been wonderful.
Originally Posted by SULLA:
“How do you know that I haven't ?”
“How do you know that I haven't ?”
You haven't.
Another great episode. Great stuff by Lin, Roger and Harry. There was a great sense of community in tonight's episode. A real raw depiction of grief.
Damn. Poor Ben. I wasn't sure whether he was holding back, or the police were trying to coax him into making it a hate crime, but no wonder he feels so guilty... 
And if Pam ever found out, then she'd be even more, sadly, un/justified, in what she said to him.
Then again, it wouldn't not be in Ben's character for him not to react the way he said either.
Glad Johnny and Ben didn't kiss [as I feared they might] at the end. Although I'm sure it'll happen in the next few weeks...
And if Pam ever found out, then she'd be even more, sadly, un/justified, in what she said to him.
Then again, it wouldn't not be in Ben's character for him not to react the way he said either.
Glad Johnny and Ben didn't kiss [as I feared they might] at the end. Although I'm sure it'll happen in the next few weeks...
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