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CS: dont think im liking the constant new reminders too the past
Maybe I'm still getting used to it but at the moment I'm not liking this new constant approach of reminders of the past i.e - loved ones deaths. Since Kylies death it has brought up past thoughts of family deaths from maria, Sophie, nick and Yasmeen and maybe more I forgotten about.
Ok I get it, its the new approach to realism the new corrie producer likes and makes the people and the street seem real but at this rate with the amount of deaths and tragic events that happen on the street everyone will be walking around sounding depressed always being reminded of bad things. I'm watching it thinking 'oh here we go again another depressing small talk between characters about how Kylies death reminds them of their tragic past event'. Think about it, every year when corrie has that big bgt week in May theirs always a bad disaster, so if this is the new way the dialogue is going after in the aftermath of that years disaster in the big weeks in may all the characters or most are going to go into a depression state being reminded of their bad time in big week or whenever something bad happened to them or someone close in the shows history. I thought id like it as soap characters seem to go from one issue to another and after one storylines done and dusted its never mentioned again as if it never happened. I do like it when its done the way sally was talking about arriving on the street talking about living with Hilda and the way Rita said after the tram crash 'what is it about me and trams' in reference to the Alan Bradley saga, but really the way the characters are talking about the past tragic deaths they have been reminded of by Kylies its like jeez theirs always tragedy on a soap all the time so if they keep at it like this they going to be constantly talking about deaths and disasters every week with at the rate bad things happen on corrie. I get it, corrie has over 55 years of history but please keep the nods to the past subtle or the way I've given examples of sally about Hilda and Ritas above example. Maybe I need to get used to it but I can't believe I'm saying this but if its the way its going to be I think I want characters to go back to way they used to seem to have a memory wipe after the storylines where over. |
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It needs to be balanced. I certainly don't want entire episodes full of these nods to the past. I think part of the issue is the sudden reintroduction of memory due to the new producer. I can't remember the last time of Gail mentioning Brian, or Audrey mentioning Alf for Yasmeen mentioning Cal, or Sophie mentioning Maddie but suddenly they've all decided nows the time to mention/focus on them - which is understandable but we don't need to be overloaded with it.
The Hilda mention worked because it focused on an event in Sally's life and an outlook shes gained. I hope at some point Gail and Ken can talk together about some of the 70s and 80s characters. |
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It needs to be balanced. I certainly don't want entire episodes full of these nods to the past. I think part of the issue is the sudden reintroduction of memory due to the new producer. I can't remember the last time of Gail mentioning Brian, or Audrey mentioning Alf for Yasmeen mentioning Cal, or Sophie mentioning Maddie but suddenly they've all decided nows the time to mention/focus on them - which is understandable but we don't need to be overloaded with it.
The Hilda mention worked because it focused on an event in Sally's life and an outlook shes gained. I hope at some point Gail and Ken can talk together about some of the 70s and 80s characters. |
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While I remember its a tiny little thing (and maybe I noticed it as I'm always watching corrie and seen so many past episodes) but what I did like and did notice was the way Rita opened the door to Shayne wards dad (forget his name) and defended jenny like she was reading a line from the 80s when she used to look after and defend teenage Jenny. Even the way Rita opened the door with no makeup on taking her make off with wipes made her look younger and added to the realism you don't see anymore too much due to so many episodes and lack of time for it in scripts. It really did feel like a scene from 1989
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I like all the mentions...it doesn't feel too gratuitous. The show has deep history and doesn't need to retcon the past like Enders
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Sorry OP but I'm not with you on this one!!
Last Mondays episodes to me were some of the best in years & it was because of that realism brought about by the carefully chosen characters involved showing their shock & reacting to Kylie's violent death in exactly the way people would in real life!! Maria was the best example on the night, as she stated, not even particularly great friends with Kylie but worked with her practically every day & by the very nature of the scenes of David holding a dying Kylie in his arms was transported back to 7 years earlier when the scenes were her holding her dead husband in the street after a similarly violent & sudden death!! Her reaction was brilliantly written & portrayed!! Likewise the other characters, that great little scene with Sophie on the bench & the Nazirs!! As I say the characters involved were chosen superbly!! This was Corrie at it's very best for those two episodes following directly after the death scenes & it isn't like they then went & carried it on all week!! |
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I like all the mentions...it doesn't feel too gratuitous. The show has deep history and doesn't need to retcon the past like Enders
There might have been other retcons, but I can't be bothered to find out right now.
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bib: Apart from Betty Turpin's Rovers ownership subplot. And Ken Barlow's long-lost son.
There might have been other retcons, but I can't be bothered to find out right now. ![]() You are so right about Betty & the Rover's, that plot was awful & an insult to a great character, especially since it all revolved around a character who hadn't known her 5 minutes!! A lovely, gentle happy send off in the pub where she'd worked most of her life, with relevant characters referencing stories from her past would have been far more poignant & appropriate than that contrived drivel!! That was actually one of Corrie's lowest points for me as Betty was one of my all time favourites & I felt really badly let down at the time!!
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bib: Apart from Betty Turpin's Rovers ownership subplot. And Ken Barlow's long-lost son.
There might have been other retcons, but I can't be bothered to find out right now. ![]() |
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It's good shows Continuity Eastenders do it well so please Corrie is too.
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bib: Apart from Betty Turpin's Rovers ownership subplot. And Ken Barlow's long-lost son.
There might have been other retcons, but I can't be bothered to find out right now. ![]() |
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I really like it.
I do understand what the OP means, if we had a mention of a previous character every year on their birthday, anniversary of their death etc it would get wearing, there have been so many they would never do anything else. The fact is that people do stop talking about loved ones all the time because life has to move on. But, equally, certain things will remind them and another death, especially if in similar circumstances, will bring it back. These mentions didn't come from nowhere this week, they were a direct consequence of Kylie's murder. Given that Brian died in exactly the same way, stabbed when his children were the same age, it would have been odd in the extreme if he hadn't been mentioned when his widow and children remain in the show, in the same family as this latest tragedy. Equally, Maddy, Kal, Liam were also all young and they were sudden, sensless deaths and two little more than a year ago so I think they would come up as well. It'4 not as though we had every character reminiscing about their losses, Roy, Cathy, Ken, Freddie, Dev all appeared this week and didn't bring up their dead spouses. |
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Susan Baldwin's abortion returning a couple of decades later, now going by the name Adam.
I know the argument is that we didn't actually see her on the tanle having the procedure and she left before the pregnancy would have been visible but there was no reason for her to lie about to Mike. She risked her marriage breaking up as he'd been so keen to have kids and she didn't want her marriage to break up. She stood to lose her business and career as Mike was bankrolling. Basically she had everything to lose and nothing to gain by saying she'd had an abortion when she hadn't. She didn't want a child and got rid, knowing that she risked everything in doing so. I hated the Betty owning the rovers as well as it made no sense at all but at least it was only referenced in a couple of episodes so I cam almost block it from my memory. |
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It's good I think .
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I like the little mentions it seems to make the show more real and it is a lot better Kevin forgetting his son died
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It's good shows Continuity Eastenders do it well so please Corrie is too.
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It's Realstic.
Don't you chat about how you miss neighbours you used to have, or if one died, you chat about how you miss them, etc |
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It's Realstic.
Don't you chat about how you miss neighbours you used to have, or if one died, you chat about how you miss them, etc |
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All of the mentions have been completely organic, as they should be. It would have been pathetic for Gail not to mention Brian, considering her son is going through the exact same thing she's already dealt with.
I loved the Hilda mention and I think a murder on the street is bound to make characters think of other recently murdered characters (or at least unexpected deaths) and it would be a disservice to the character if they weren't shown as thinking about them. Currie has a long history and I love mentions to its past. We have to remember that the audience is made up of a number of generations, all of whom started watching at different points. Not everyone is going to get every reference, but I don't think that matters and should not be a deterrent. It rarely happens, but I love those very rare scenes where Ken is sat in the Rovers with Rita and they reference the past. I'd really love the older characters to do that more often, but can see why they don't. But it's little everyday scenes like this that made Corrie what it is. |
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I agree with everything said. I agree it's more realistic and something I've always wanted but it just seemed everyone was mentioning past deaths (even tho someone has pointed it out) I think it's just because as one poster said it's just happened all of a sudden due to new producer. But with the rate of bad events in soaps hope it doesn't happen all the time. But as mentioned before I did like the way silly talked about Hiilda I think those ways are the way forward
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I absolutely love it. Really makes the show a lot more realistic and the characters have a lot more depth! Brilliant
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I actually think it can add some much needed depth to.a character. Maria in particular, might have seemed the most out of place as Liam's death was some time ago but it was an awful thing, a traumatic turning point in Maria's life which obviously she can't dwell on all the time but must still be there in the background, losing somebody she knew well (ir not exactly friends with) would bring it back and helped remind me that she wasn't always this vacuous and was actually a good character at one stage.
I think all the recent nods to the past have been completely organic, arising from recent events. People remembering llost loved ones especially due to violence with Kylie's death and showing the transition from just remembering the pain of the death to remembering the joy of the life as part of the grieving process on Deardre's birthday/death anniversary with Ken and Rita reminiscing. It also felt natural for simon to talk about Lucy if he was scared of losing Leanne to Cancer as well. Hilda is the only other manedrop I've noticed so I don't really think we've been inundated with them, new producer or not. I do think they should do it more often or anything. Not devote whole episodes to recollections but the odd mention. Like, if we saw Peter Barlow's birthday celebrated, a mention of Susan wouldn't go amiss as he (and Ken) must think about her on his birthday since they were twins. |
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