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Just seen the Comic Con clip.
Is it me or has the reception for BvS resulted in a budget that makes this film look like a tv show ? |
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It's still shooting. The preview is just a few character scenes with minimal special effects. Anything on a large scale would look crap without a ton of post-production work.
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The fact that the effects are minimal is stated at the start before the trailer is a big hint!
It was only the Cyborg effects that were lacking for me as the rest were fine especially the scene between Bruce and Barry which worked really well despite my dislike of the actor playing Barry! I don't like Flash metal costume either but that's not caused by effect as that's a terrible studio choice! |
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Another trailer that was a bit underwhelming. I suppose they put it together to show the "fun" aspect of it - "I hear you talk to fish?".
Still think it's ridiculous that Grant Gustin couldn't have been cast as The Flash. I can see them overlooking Stephen Amell at this rate. |
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I agree that Grant Gustin should've been cast to play Flash. Only thing that got me excited for the movie is Aquaman. Hope they do him justice, because he's got a lot to offer. He's also quite underappreciated in terms on DC characters.
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Another trailer that was a bit underwhelming. I suppose they put it together to show the "fun" aspect of it - "I hear you talk to fish?".
Still think it's ridiculous that Grant Gustin couldn't have been cast as The Flash. I can see them overlooking Stephen Amell at this rate. Even if they made it mega-clear that Gustin was now playing a different Flash in a different universe, it would still have saddled the film with baggage if they had used the TV actor. Besides which, these movies take many months to shoot. Would fans of the Flash TV show really want that version put on hold for a year or two or maybe cancelled altogether? Another thing to consider is that the TV Flash can travel to alternate universes. So a Gustin/Miller crossover may happen for an episode. |
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Another trailer that was a bit underwhelming. I suppose they put it together to show the "fun" aspect of it - "I hear you talk to fish?".
Still think it's ridiculous that Grant Gustin couldn't have been cast as The Flash. I can see them overlooking Stephen Amell at this rate. |
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That was one of the smarter decisions WB has made. You only have to look at Agents of Shield to understand why TV shows and movies don't mix. It completely ties the creators' hands especially on the TV side of things and means the TV show suffers because it doesn't have the budget to keep up with the movies.
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They don't want confusion with the television universes. The cinematic Flash is supposed to be separate. So nobody is made to feel they can't see the film until they've caught up on three seasons of the TV show.
Even if they made it mega-clear that Gustin was now playing a different Flash in a different universe, it would still have saddled the film with baggage if they had used the TV actor. Besides which, these movies take many months to shoot. Would fans of the Flash TV show really want that version put on hold for a year or two or maybe cancelled altogether? Another thing to consider is that the TV Flash can travel to alternate universes. So a Gustin/Miller crossover may happen for an episode. |
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Aquaman* interests me the most.
Wonder Woman -- Yesss! Batman -- I like it. I think Affleck's redeeming himself quite a bit with this after Daredevil. The Flash is... Well, I don't know. I'm not that keen on Ezra Miller as he's a little too theatrical for my taste, so I'll wait for the film to see if he could pull it off. Cyborg is still a mystery. I'm not familiar with the character and actor Ray Fisher, so it's a case of wait and see, I suppose. *I must admit that when I see or hear that name, I think of Man From Atlantis. |
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My other problem with Flash as well as the costume and that it isn't Gustin is that they seem to have made Barry Allen into DC version of Peter Parker in this trailer!
Maybe another actor around Grant Gustin age would make more sense as in that scene I thought first of all that he was going to offer for him to be Robin as I didn't realise that it was Ezra Miller! |
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My other problem with Flash as well as the costume and that it isn't Gustin is that they seem to have made Barry Allen into DC version of Peter Parker in this trailer!
The scene between Bruce Wayne/Barry Allen does seem to play an awful lot like the Tony Stark/Peter Parker scene from Civil War, though, but I wasn't a fan of Ezra Miller's (over)acting here. The whole premise of the scene also seems a little bit odd. Forcing the hero to reveal his power by attacking him is a bit of a trope, but it would have worked better if Bruce Wayne wasn't already sitting in what was clearly The Flash's "lair". His costume is even on full display. The jig was already up. There was really no reason for the theatrics of throwing the batarang. Maybe it will play differently in the full version, but it seemed a bit like Batman's stupid "I thought she was with you" line from BvS, which didn't make any sense either. I know a lot of people have gotten quite excited by the trailer, but overall I'm not seeing anything that makes me think it's going to be much better than BvS. |
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I didn't think the trailer was too bad, but then I thought more of the BvS trailers, and I was left a little underwhelmed by the final product. I fear Zack will repeat his mistakes, and that'll affect the film. Quote:
I don't like Flash metal costume either but that's not caused by effect as that's a terrible studio choice!
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Still think it's ridiculous that Grant Gustin couldn't have been cast as The Flash. I can see them overlooking Stephen Amell at this rate.
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My other problem with Flash as well as the costume and that it isn't Gustin is that they seem to have made Barry Allen into DC version of Peter Parker in this trailer!
I did notice too the (lack of) Superman in the trailer. What's the bet he'll reappear toward the end of the actual film? |
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My other problem with Flash as well as the costume and that it isn't Gustin is that they seem to have made Barry Allen into DC version of Peter Parker in this trailer!
Maybe another actor around Grant Gustin age would make more sense as in that scene I thought first of all that he was going to offer for him to be Robin as I didn't realise that it was Ezra Miller! |
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The scene between Bruce Wayne/Barry Allen does seem to play an awful lot like the Tony Stark/Peter Parker scene from Civil War. |
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looks good but tad too marvelish, shoehorning in comedy
shouldn't have listened to the nerds moaning about MoS and BvS |
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looks good but tad too marvelish, shoehorning in comedy
shouldn't have listened to the nerds moaning about MoS and BvS Anyway, this looks.... okay. Very early days still obviously so it's frankly amazing they have any footage prepared at all. But I feel they've missed the mark with The Flash and might be trying just a tad too hard to make Aquaman seem cool. It's unfortunate that the DCCU has decided against using the TV actors, as - purely on first impressions alone - I don't think I'll be able to take to this guy playing Barry Allen when I know Grant Gustin *could* have been in this movie. I don't really like the fact that they're portraying his character as a total antisocial awkward loser either, that's very off to me. Anyway, will give it a chance, do like that they've decided to inject some humour in there, rather than have every single character either brooding (Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman).... or just flat out cringe (Lex Luthor) |
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MoS and BvS were both very good imo
they dont need tv show actors, they are tv actors for a reason usually. Not quite at acting level of hollywood stars yes some tv shows have amazing actors but you very rarely see them on CW shows! |
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MoS and BvS were both very good imo
they dont need tv show actors, they are tv actors for a reason usually. Not quite at acting level of hollywood stars yes some tv shows have amazing actors but you very rarely see them on CW shows! |
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I would argue Grant Gustin is one of those amazing actors that appears on TV, some of his scenes are just so emotionally charged it's genuinely amazing to watch
miller has huge potential,check him out in perks of being a wallflowler and we need to talka bout kevin |
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looks good but tad too marvelish, shoehorning in comedy
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It's a good thing they did, both films were absolutely naff, particularly BvS for what it very easily *could* have been.
I am probably in the minority, but for me Nolan's Dark Knight Trilogy was great and THAT is what DCCU should be striving to aim for. The fact they have brought in some others to help steer DCCU is a good sign. They need a plan in order to make sure the films that fit into this universe have a clear purpose or add something. Quote:
Anyway, will give it a chance, do like that they've decided to inject some humour in there, rather than have every single character either brooding (Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman).... or just flat out cringe (Lex Luthor)
I'm not dying to see Justice League, but I will give Wonder Woman the benefit of the doubt. |
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Whedon247 that is a general statement to make about TV actors not having the same acting level as film actors
You should remember that film actors like Chris Pratt started off on TV with Parks And Recreation! |
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Whedon247 that is a general statement to make about TV actors not having the same acting level as film actors
You should remember that film actors like Chris Pratt started off on TV with Parks And Recreation! i said many great tv actors out there, but i imagine not many from CW shows. if marvel recast daredevil for a movie now everyone would fume because the actor basically plays a film version already. CW shows have poor dialogue and usually cast loads of people who live close to vancouver. GG doesnt get to act with great actors either for the most part so it can hinder development too. its pretty obvious that people get attached to their tv shows and want to see their fav actors get a chance in the movies and when it doesnt happen they just moan about the new guy. i like grant gustin but i imagine his c.v pails in comparison to millars so far. |
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If they did Daredevil for a film version then it would end up being a 12A version of the character and not the 15 rated character that we have seen on Netflix as Marvel don't do 15 rated films!
Before anyone says it Deadpool is a Fox film not a film from the MCU So you are saying that CW actors and actress are terrible in general? I find that different people have different opinions on the quality of acting in tv shows on American TV no matter the network! |
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If they did Daredevil for a film version then it would end up being a 12A version of the character and not the 15 rated character that we have seen on Netflix as Marvel don't do 15 rated films!
He is Mr Comic Book - Daredevil, Batman and Superman! He probably dresses up as Spiderman on his days off!
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