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Old 27-07-2016, 21:30
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There's a very good chance the Champions League will be coming home to Sky soon. I believe we're just months away from the next round of Champions League rights being awarded.

BT has been a disaster for the competition. UEFA is well known to want the flagship sports broadcaster Sky back on board with a terrestrial broadcaster like ITV screening some games.

'Brought to you by Sky'
LOL! If it was to go 'home' to use your infantile terminology, it would be going to ITV!!!

As for the rest of your post, i laughed so hard my dog started barking at me!
Never have i read and heard so much BS in one post than this one! Its stunning you still have the gumption and dare to post something as ridiculous!
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Old 27-07-2016, 21:52
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The Chinese Superleague is a good acquisition if the price is right.

As for the Champions League rights I don't see how much changes bar ITV getting a game a round. Sky can't be looking at many more aquisitions sports wise as the cost of the Premier League rights spirals upwards.
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Old 27-07-2016, 21:59
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LOL! If it was to go 'home' to use your infantile terminology, it would be going to ITV!!!

As for the rest of your post, i laughed so hard my dog started barking at me!
Never have i read and heard so much BS in one post than this one! Its stunning you still have the gumption and dare to post something as ridiculous!
I love your post i could not have put it better myself, it made me laugh so much.
The guy is in LOVE with sky.
I did like your line of so much BS in one post
I laughed so hard my dog started barking at me. I love it.
Great post.
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Old 27-07-2016, 22:11
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I love your post i could not have put it better myself, it made me laugh so much.
The guy is in LOVE with sky.
I did like your line of so much BS in one post
I laughed so hard my dog started barking at me. I love it.
Great post.
The sad fact is, my dog really did bark at me because i was laughing so loudly and so much.

I just don't understand why users make posts that are so biased and so obvious of their 'allegiance' to what is a TV provider!
Its like the Cold War, with people infiltrating somewhere to spread some agenda and rhetoric AND expect people to believe it!
Its making the forum into a mockery and many people have left because of this kind of childish posting, im about done too.
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Old 27-07-2016, 22:19
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The sad fact is, my dog really did bark at me because i was laughing so loudly and so much.

I just don't understand why users make posts that are so biased and so obvious of their 'allegiance' to what is a TV provider!
Its like the Cold War, with people infiltrating somewhere to spread some agenda and rhetoric AND expect people to believe it!
Its making the forum into a mockery and many people have left because of this kind of childish posting, im about done too.
I just sum it up like this, the guy loves a company and is happy to hand all sorts of money to them. And on the other hand sky as a company could not give a dam about him, they just want his cash!
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Old 27-07-2016, 23:24
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LOL! If it was to go 'home' to use your infantile terminology, it would be going to ITV!!!

As for the rest of your post, i laughed so hard my dog started barking at me!
Never have i read and heard so much BS in one post than this one! Its stunning you still have the gumption and dare to post something as ridiculous!
Cracking post.

Is that guy for real? If he is he must be either rodgering Rupert or he thinks tv companies are like football teams to support.

If that's the case ....I'm Team ITV all the way!
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Old 28-07-2016, 07:42
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The sad fact is, my dog really did bark at me because i was laughing so loudly and so much.

I just don't understand why users make posts that are so biased and so obvious of their 'allegiance' to what is a TV provider!
Its like the Cold War, with people infiltrating somewhere to spread some agenda and rhetoric AND expect people to believe it!
Its making the forum into a mockery and many people have left because of this kind of childish posting, im about done too.
Everybody just needs to stop biting. The poster is either delusional or laughing their head off at the responses they elicit.

It's similar to the poster who kept asking for bizarre lists of every football programme on BT Sport between the hours of 01:00 to 06:00 on Tuesday mornings in May.
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Old 28-07-2016, 08:49
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Wasnt it reported somewhere that UEFA regretted taking the football off a FTA station, rather than Sky? So he was almost right
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Old 28-07-2016, 09:01
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Wasnt it reported somewhere that UEFA regretted taking the football off a FTA station, rather than Sky? So he was almost right
I was 100% right. It's well known UEFA regrets the BT deal and they think it has devalued the Champions League.

But you can't have a sensible discussion on here about Sky. There are so many people who hate the company because they can't afford a subscription, so they resort to textbook ad hominem attacks.

FWIW I predict Sky will regain the rights and will partner with ITV to give some terrestrial coverage and cover some of the cost. UEFA will be happiest going back to that arrangement, Sky gets to deliver a hammer blow to BT, and ITV viewers get some free coverage back. Sponsors will be happier too knowing their brands are getting some wider UK exposure again. The only loser in all this will be BT.
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Old 28-07-2016, 09:38
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There's a very good chance the Champions League will be coming home to Sky soon. I believe we're just months away from the next round of Champions League rights being awarded.

BT has been a disaster for the competition. UEFA is well known to want the flagship sports broadcaster Sky back on board with a terrestrial broadcaster like ITV screening some games.
Do you have 'believe in better' tattooed on your body?
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Old 28-07-2016, 10:03
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It's all about money. UEFA IF they have any concerns will easily solve them if BT opens up its cheque book.

It all depends if BT thinks they offer value? At the end of the day, that is all that matters. BT seem more focused on mobile markets at the moment.
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Old 28-07-2016, 10:14
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Do you have 'believe in better' tattooed on your body?
Now that is comedy gold
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Old 28-07-2016, 11:23
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But you can't have a sensible discussion on here about Sky.
Actually, you can. There are many very knowledgeable posters who discuss these contracts in a balanced and neutral way.

The discussions take a turn for the worse when posters like you start to weigh in with one-sided propaganda.

It's a bit rich bemoaning the lack of sensible discussion when you regularly turn up and bandy around phrases such as "bringing the Champions League home to Sky Sports"

Given that you have a decent grasp of spelling and grammar you're probably in the top 15% of intelligent posters on these forums. Why not put that to good use and engage other members in balanced and inquiring discussion rather than resorting to hackneyed trolling? We'd love to have another sensible poster discussing these deals!
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Old 28-07-2016, 12:42
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It's interesting that the news regarding the deal for the CSL and the way that Sky have sought to publicize it as resulted in so much debate. It's certainly a deal that 10 years ago Sky wouldn't have gone near with a 10-foot (or is that feet?) pole...

In terms of the UEFA CL deal, I would love to see Sky step back in to acquire these rights. As a Sky and BT-susbscriber via Sky my preference would be for Sky to get these rights again. It was far easier for me as a Sky viewer to watch the extra games and record them as currently I can only watch one of these interactive games rather than what I was previously able to, which was 2.

On the other hand, I'm now experiencing the other end of the deal that non-Sky viewers of Sky had to put up with, so now the boot is on the other foot for me. And I don't like it much!

My other main gripe with the BT coverage is that they insist on updating us regarding the other games in a far more intrusive way that Sky ever did. It really infuriates me - most people are watching the game in a partisan fashion and have little more than a passing interest in other scores. But for more neutral viewers such as myself I might want to see both games in their entirety (this is the case as we get to the latter stages) so to have a score-box popping up telling me in a way that I just can't avoid what's going on elsewhere really winds me up. I much preferred Sky's way of just rolling the scores through from time to time but not having the commentators mention the scores. The rolling bar was far easier to look away from briefly until it had passed through. Partisan viewers know what is happening around the continent, but I don't. Job done!
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Old 28-07-2016, 13:28
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It's interesting that the news regarding the deal for the CSL and the way that Sky have sought to publicize it as resulted in so much debate. It's certainly a deal that 10 years ago Sky wouldn't have gone near with a 10-foot (or is that feet?) pole...

In terms of the UEFA CL deal, I would love to see Sky step back in to acquire these rights. As a Sky and BT-susbscriber via Sky my preference would be for Sky to get these rights again. It was far easier for me as a Sky viewer to watch the extra games and record them as currently I can only watch one of these interactive games rather than what I was previously able to, which was 2.

On the other hand, I'm now experiencing the other end of the deal that non-Sky viewers of Sky had to put up with, so now the boot is on the other foot for me. And I don't like it much!

My other main gripe with the BT coverage is that they insist on updating us regarding the other games in a far more intrusive way that Sky ever did. It really infuriates me - most people are watching the game in a partisan fashion and have little more than a passing interest in other scores. But for more neutral viewers such as myself I might want to see both games in their entirety (this is the case as we get to the latter stages) so to have a score-box popping up telling me in a way that I just can't avoid what's going on elsewhere really winds me up. I much preferred Sky's way of just rolling the scores through from time to time but not having the commentators mention the scores. The rolling bar was far easier to look away from briefly until it had passed through. Partisan viewers know what is happening around the continent, but I don't. Job done!
I think those are very valid criticisms of the coverage. Personally, I would like BT to retain at least an element of the rights for only one reason - The Goals Show with James Richardson. This was my favourite programme last Autumn / Winter and I can't imagine Sky replicating it in any way.
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Old 28-07-2016, 13:49
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I think those are very valid criticisms of the coverage. Personally, I would like BT to retain at least an element of the rights for only one reason - The Goals Show with James Richardson. This was my favourite programme last Autumn / Winter and I can't imagine Sky replicating it in any way.
The online / APP presentation of all the champions league games is fantastic on BT. I would miss that or would Sky be required to do the same?
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Old 28-07-2016, 14:03
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Sky gets to deliver a hammer blow to BT ... The only loser in all this will be BT.
You're forgetting that the CL rights auction will likely have a very significant impact on how the next PL rights auction plays out. This is due to not only the fact that the two auctions will likely happen close to each other but the fact that whoever wins the CL rights will be paying over a billion for them over three seasons.

Let's say your wish came true and Sky regains the CL rights. There's let's just say 1.1/1.2 billion pounds of extra spending they would need to account for which can't be used to maintain their various PL packages. At the same time, BT has a billion pounds spare which they then could use to try and snatch a PL package or two off Sky at the next auction.

How both companies strategize and navigate this conundrum will be very interesting to see as it plays out over the next 18 months
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Old 28-07-2016, 14:21
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The online / APP presentation of all the champions league games is fantastic on BT. I would miss that or would Sky be required to do the same?
The presentation of the CL is much better than in Sky days that is true. Also as a seasoned watcher of some of the extra games (being a bit of a football odd-ball there's something more appealing in BATE Borrisov-Malmo than Arsenal-Bayern or what have you) via Sky the quality and calibre of the BT commentators is much enhanced. But the commentator doesn't really bother me but only being able to watch 1 BT Extra game at any one time is a frustration.

Fortunately on the Extra coverage they don't tend to talk about the other matches too much so the trick I have worked out is to watch that one first and then go back. But these days my choice is restricted to whatever BT Sport opt to show via Europe or BTS2, which is always the English clubs. The above is only valid if the Extra game isn't also the Showcase game in which case you can expect all other CL matches to be talked about at great length!

One thing BT have done with their coverage is that they have introduced 60 minute highlight cuts of all the games which is something Sky never did. I'd like to see them extended to 90 minutes as 60 minutes feels like neither fish nor fowl (it's neither just the goals or the whole game but something in between that feels both rushed and incomplete at the same time).

Anyway to get back to the original thread subject, I'll be watching on Saturday afternoon - or at least videoing to watch later in the day. Hooray for the CSL (Wal28 waves a small flag!)
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Old 28-07-2016, 14:26
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I was 100% right. It's well known UEFA regrets the BT deal and they think it has devalued the Champions League.
Sorry, but continually saying that you're right about something doesn't actually make for a convincing argument, nor mean that you are right. The inclusion of the percentile makes it even less convincing.

There've been a small number of press articles with "sources" that were never named. Even those articles make no mention of Sky - and why would the rights sellers reveal that they'd prefer one pay TV company over another, that would be commercial suicide. Those articles talk about the FTA aspect of the coverage.

If you want to convince people that you're "100% right" at least make some attempt to back up your claim.

But you can't have a sensible discussion on here about Sky. There are so many people who hate the company because they can't afford a subscription, so they resort to textbook ad hominem attacks.
You're sounding a lot like another poster on here. Although anybody who disagrees with him must be employed by Sky.
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Old 28-07-2016, 15:53
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You're forgetting that the CL rights auction will likely have a very significant impact on how the next PL rights auction plays out. This is due to not only the fact that the two auctions will likely happen close to each other but the fact that whoever wins the CL rights will be paying over a billion for them over three seasons.

Let's say your wish came true and Sky regains the CL rights. There's let's just say 1.1/1.2 billion pounds of extra spending they would need to account for which can't be used to maintain their various PL packages. At the same time, BT has a billion pounds spare which they then could use to try and snatch a PL package or two off Sky at the next auction.

How both companies strategize and navigate this conundrum will be very interesting to see as it plays out over the next 18 months
Sky has already demonstrated they will protect their Premier League rights at any price. They blew BT out of the water in the last auction, and I remember everyone predicted Sky would almost certainly lose more matches to BT.

Equally Sky Sports subscribers have demonstrated they are happy to pay higher prices to keep getting unrivalled football coverage on Sky. Churn rate is falling and customers are showing ever-increasing loyalty to Sky. So there's not a shred of evidence to suggest Sky is in a difficult place right now in negotiating new deals. The money is there on the table for Sky when they need to ask customers to dig a little deeper to help pay for costs.

So we can have a lot of confidence Sky will be able to protect their turf in regards to the Premier League, while simultaneously bidding big to bring back the Champions League to Sky Sports.

I also remember a lot of experts saying BT was set to snatch La Liga from Sky because they had spent so much on the Premier League. It didn't happen.

I think the new Champions League deal will see all but 1 fixture each week of matches exclusively live on Sky Sports. ITV will show one domestic team each round of fixtures. So back to what he had before.

BT Europe will become the official home of the Europa League.
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Old 28-07-2016, 17:33
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Aurichie - so easy to spot your posts. Churn rate is not failing, it's at its highest rate since 2007
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Old 28-07-2016, 19:24
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Sky has already demonstrated they will protect their Premier League rights at any price. They blew BT out of the water in the last auction, and I remember everyone predicted Sky would almost certainly lose more matches to BT.

Equally Sky Sports subscribers have demonstrated they are happy to pay higher prices to keep getting unrivalled football coverage on Sky. Churn rate is falling and customers are showing ever-increasing loyalty to Sky. So there's not a shred of evidence to suggest Sky is in a difficult place right now in negotiating new deals. The money is there on the table for Sky when they need to ask customers to dig a little deeper to help pay for costs.

So we can have a lot of confidence Sky will be able to protect their turf in regards to the Premier League, while simultaneously bidding big to bring back the Champions League to Sky Sports.

I also remember a lot of experts saying BT was set to snatch La Liga from Sky because they had spent so much on the Premier League. It didn't happen.

I think the new Champions League deal will see all but 1 fixture each week of matches exclusively live on Sky Sports. ITV will show one domestic team each round of fixtures. So back to what he had before.

BT Europe will become the official home of the Europa League.
Few issues with your usual drivel.

Churn is up.

Operating costs up, not including yet the PL loading that will come.

The Spanish football was BTs until they wouldn't pay.

BT actually played sky and didn't bid the high values , but forced sky to do so. Previously they won all packages in the first round bidding, hence why sky felt under pressure.

But hey let's have a sky love in.
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Old 29-07-2016, 14:22
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Few issues with your usual drivel.

Churn is up.

Operating costs up, not including yet the PL loading that will come.

The Spanish football was BTs until they wouldn't pay.

BT actually played sky and didn't bid the high values , but forced sky to do so. Previously they won all packages in the first round bidding, hence why sky felt under pressure.

But hey let's have a sky love in.
I'll add to your list - also no indication UEFA will break from their current practice of tendering both Champions League and Europa League together. All or nothing.
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Old 03-08-2016, 10:03
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Getting back to the matter in hand it looks like Sky have already gone cold on the CSL...no sign of the games on the EPG this coming weekend. Quite a shame as both the games last weekend were good watches to be honest. Are Sky having second thoughts??
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Old 03-08-2016, 10:25
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Getting back to the matter in hand it looks like Sky have already gone cold on the CSL...no sign of the games on the EPG this coming weekend. Quite a shame as both the games last weekend were good watches to be honest. Are Sky having second thoughts??
Hi wal28, the reason why Sky have no live games listed from the CSL this weekend is because there are no games in the CSL this weekend The next live games currently scheduled are Sat 13th & Sun 14th August

Shanghai Shenhua v Guangzhou Evergrande Taobao
Chinese Super League, Sky Sports 3 HD (12:30)

Hebei China Fortune v Liaoning Whowin
Chinese Super League, Sky Sports (12:30)
http://www.skysports.com/watch/football-on-sky

Off topic but in terms of periphery rights I wonder where we'll stand with the Copa del Rey and Coppa Italia this year. Swiss League will not be covered on BT this season. BT do however have the FFA Cup scheduled Wed 10th August

Wollongong Wolves v Sydney FC Australian FFA Cup Last-32 10:30 BT Sport 1 / BT Sport 1 HD
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