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The walking dead season 7 ( US sunday/UK monday ) spoilers
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margarite6666
25-10-2016
Originally Posted by grassmarket:
“Don't know if Negan intuited or not, but what he has done is take out the group's best soldier (Abraham), its best scrounger (Glenn) and its best Scout/Spy (Daryl). So if Rick wants to fight back, he's going to do it differently than he did before.”

Daryl isn't in the comics and he is a real fan favourite. If he does leave he would need a set up. Plus he has a grudge with Dwight that should give tons of storylines.

It will be interesting to see what people follow Negan. I think we will see that he does protect his people. It can't be just through great.
Spoiler
I read Lucille was named after his wife who died of cancer. He was having an affair but decided to stay with her. He is an attractive man but it would be so dangerous to get close to him.
Stansfield
25-10-2016
Originally Posted by BleedRed:
“Got to be Maggie.”

Her hair looks great this season.....Rick's not so, beard looks trimmed in some scenes.


As for the opening episode - just hope it picks up.....I was bored by the end - David Morrissey was a much better, convincing baddie, way back when....Jeffrey Dean Morgan is awful as the new one - he should have gone in the first episode.

Rick swinging on the zombie was hilarious. - my highlight....as was the eyes.
CBFreak
25-10-2016
I've been watching reaction videos of the episode and it's still gives me the heebies each time.
Pamthehound
25-10-2016
This season is over for me already, Negan was just a tad OTT and the next episode I will watch will be Maggie bashing Negan over the head with Luceille. Also maybe Morgan and Chris coming in to save Ricks group from Negan.


Negan as a character is loathsome and I just want him to be dead, bit like GOT and yer man Ramsey getting feed to his own dogs, Negan will get finished by Luceile but who will be weilding her in front of a grovelling Negan
Jells Bells
25-10-2016
Originally Posted by Stansfield:
“Her hair looks great this season.....Rick's not so, beard looks trimmed in some scenes.


As for the opening episode - just hope it picks up.....I was bored by the end - David Morrissey was a much better, convincing baddie, way back when....Jeffrey Dean Morgan is awful as the new one - he should have gone in the first episode.

Rick swinging on the zombie was hilarious. - my highlight....as was the eyes.”

They still have beard trimmer in the apocalypse doncha know!
I can't believe you think JDM is awful - I think he's fab! But that's just the way the world works.
Callum Collum
25-10-2016
This was a brutal episode but also an impressive one, for me. I was glad in a sense that Glenn was killed as it restored some credibility after his previous escapes.
Stansfield
25-10-2016
Originally Posted by Jells Bells:
“They still have beard trimmer in the apocalypse doncha know!
I can't believe you think JDM is awful - I think he's fab! But that's just the way the world works.”

I just don't get his character - he just doesn't come over as a baddie you can take seriously.
Jells Bells
25-10-2016
Originally Posted by Stansfield:
“I just don't get his character - he just doesn't come over as a baddie you can take seriously.”

He's a maverick! I love it!
decobelle
25-10-2016
Originally Posted by Stansfield:
“I just don't get his character - he just doesn't come over as a baddie you can take seriously.”

We must have been watching different shows I thought he was pretty terrifying, pure crazy wrapped in a jokey almost reasonable package. He caved 2 heads in and made a father believe that he no choice but to cut his sons hand off
funkycub
25-10-2016
Originally Posted by deans6571:
“....not being funny but its VERY EASY to stay away from social media. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


Yesterday, I purposely did not go on Facebook or Twitter all day (not even once), for fear of reading a spoiler and I managed to do it effortlessly (its really not that difficult).

Watched the episode at around 7pm (had recorded the 2:30am showing) having no clue as to who would die......





.....yea, everytime I see him on The Walking Dead, I just see 'Trevor'!!!!!!
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ha! I was the opposite. I swore I wouldn't look but in five mins of waking, without even leaving my bed, I was typing Walking Dead S7 E1 review into google.

I then got up and turned on the TV and was shocked to see the show on my planner as I had no idea it was on overnight!
Stansfield
25-10-2016
Originally Posted by Jells Bells:
“He's a maverick! I love it!”

Originally Posted by decobelle:
“We must have been watching different shows I thought he was pretty terrifying, pure crazy wrapped in a jokey almost reasonable package. He caved 2 heads in and made a father believe that he no choice but to cut his sons hand off ”

He was the same in The Good Wife [wish he had the bat in that final season], awful....but not so bad in Extant - the only two shows I've seen him in.
shelleyj89
25-10-2016
Originally Posted by Stansfield:
“I just don't get his character - he just doesn't come over as a baddie you can take seriously.”

He just pulverised the heads of two of the group and had Rick ready and willing to cut off his own son's hand. Not sure what more he needs to do to be taken seriously as a baddie.
Feed The Reaper
25-10-2016
Brutally exhausting and one of the most intense episodes on TWD I think. Its set a new darker tone to an already dark show and really takes the show in a different direction now.

Although shockingly brutal and explicit, I still found it intense and Rick's performance during the episode, particularly the Carl/Axe scene is worthy of an Emmy I believe.

However, just a couple of gripes....... JDM is just not quite right for me. He plays a good villain role but is slightly camp in a slight way with how he plays it. I was expecting a brutal man and what I got was someone that felt a bit like a Panto villain in a brutal scene and it didnt fit right. The character is good and the scenes were good but I just wish he was a little less "grinning" like he was. He almost made me feel like Tim Curry (Rocky Horror) could have done the role in drag and it would have given the same effect.
I am not sure who would have played it better, but I just feel that for a brutal episode like that, he came across as a little bit too light hearted and "fun" in a way, and it it conflicted the scenes we were seeing.
He didnt detract from the intensity of the scene itself, that was still breathtaking, but he was also someone that didn't make you want to hate with a passion by looking at him. What he did yes, but how he acted, not so much.

My other gripe is that the Zombies scene in the mist felt a bit "this seems a bit pointless and needs editing down a bit" and felt we needed to get back to the action going on with the characters, and then it hit me that there is a strong danger of the show losing what people wanted, a zombie show. Suddenly we are back to Season 2-3 again where the Zombies are no more than background scenes and are nothing more annoying to the survivors than a heavy rainstorm! I tuned in to this show for the Zombie apocalypse and yet here I was wanting Rick to find the Axe so he could get back on with the Negan scenes rather than kick Zombie ass! And if that is the direction the writer is taking with this season, can most fans hold out for a proper Zombie threat again. Otherwise, as brilliant as the episode was, it was little more than a Gangster film really.

I just hope going forward that the Zombies play a big role again and that survival against them comes to the front. If it were me, I would get Rick and the gang having to go into bigger towns and cities to search for supplies to share with Negan, against overwhelming numbers of Walkers, and make it feel a lot like Season 1 again, but with the reason being that if they don't do it, Negan is going to be angry. Suddenly we have this opportunity for writers to want to go and push Rick and the group into scary zombie-related encounters and go scavenging again back to its roots, while also building up the story about how they will eventually end Negan and the Survivors.
Flash525
25-10-2016
Well I said some time ago that it was bound to be Abraham, though wasn't aware they were going to take two people out of the game. The deaths were shocking and gruesome, and brilliant. The episode however, I felt was quite poor. I get why they set the episode up the way they did, and can respect that, but most people only wanted to know who got hit, and they managed to drag that out for 45 minutes with a few speeches here and there?

Also, Negan said he'll collect his first delivery in a week, but he never actually said what he wanted? Be interesting to see how they take this threat down. Negan has a lot of supporters. I do also wonder whether he'd have acted the way he did had Rick not killed him sleeping men.
Christ_DeBurg
25-10-2016
All of these Social Media campaigns about boycotting the show and how it's inappropriate and 'gone too far' are so funny...

Yes absolutely brutal episode, but what exactly do you want if you've already signed up for 6 seasons worth of Walking Dead? What are you expecting? There's such thing as 'over the top' in the context of the Walking Dead.

This was the most shocking episode to date, but that's what we want out of these kind of TV dramas every now and then... It's about being left with that 'What in the hell did I just watch' feeling every now and then.

The episode was great.
Woodbine
25-10-2016
Originally Posted by Christ_DeBurg:
“All of these Social Media campaigns about boycotting the show and how it's inappropriate and 'gone too far' are so funny...

Yes absolutely brutal episode, but what exactly do you want if you've already signed up for 6 seasons worth of Walking Dead? What are you expecting? There's such thing as 'over the top' in the context of the Walking Dead.

This was the most shocking episode to date, but that's what we want out of these kind of TV dramas every now and then... It's about being left with that 'What in the hell did I just watch' feeling every now and then.

The episode was great.”

It was brutal but nothing worse than what we saw in Game Of Thrones when a man was crushing another mans face in.

It did gross me out I have to admit, but you should expect it with this sort of show, but I guess some people aren't happy if they're not moaning about something.
TunnelVision9
25-10-2016
I found it incredibly gruesome, I can only assume those who didn't are either big fans of generally gruesome films/shows and therefore somewhat immune to it or, alternatively, rather bloodthirsty people with no empathy I shall choose to believe the former [/quote]

Hahaha I'll be honest my cavalier reaction to the whole thing threw me a little, didn't know I was that cold hearted . On a serious note it's probably because I am a huge fan of that genre, so I loved the they didn't hold back.
funkycub
25-10-2016
Originally Posted by Feed The Reaper:
“Brutally exhausting and one of the most intense episodes on TWD I think. Its set a new darker tone to an already dark show and really takes the show in a different direction now.

Although shockingly brutal and explicit, I still found it intense and Rick's performance during the episode, particularly the Carl/Axe scene is worthy of an Emmy I believe.

However, just a couple of gripes....... JDM is just not quite right for me. He plays a good villain role but is slightly camp in a slight way with how he plays it. I was expecting a brutal man and what I got was someone that felt a bit like a Panto villain in a brutal scene and it didnt fit right. The character is good and the scenes were good but I just wish he was a little less "grinning" like he was. He almost made me feel like Tim Curry (Rocky Horror) could have done the role in drag and it would have given the same effect.
I am not sure who would have played it better, but I just feel that for a brutal episode like that, he came across as a little bit too light hearted and "fun" in a way, and it it conflicted the scenes we were seeing.
He didnt detract from the intensity of the scene itself, that was still breathtaking, but he was also someone that didn't make you want to hate with a passion by looking at him. What he did yes, but how he acted, not so much.

My other gripe is that the Zombies scene in the mist felt a bit "this seems a bit pointless and needs editing down a bit" and felt we needed to get back to the action going on with the characters, and then it hit me that there is a strong danger of the show losing what people wanted, a zombie show. Suddenly we are back to Season 2-3 again where the Zombies are no more than background scenes and are nothing more annoying to the survivors than a heavy rainstorm! I tuned in to this show for the Zombie apocalypse and yet here I was wanting Rick to find the Axe so he could get back on with the Negan scenes rather than kick Zombie ass! And if that is the direction the writer is taking with this season, can most fans hold out for a proper Zombie threat again. Otherwise, as brilliant as the episode was, it was little more than a Gangster film really.

I just hope going forward that the Zombies play a big role again and that survival against them comes to the front. If it were me, I would get Rick and the gang having to go into bigger towns and cities to search for supplies to share with Negan, against overwhelming numbers of Walkers, and make it feel a lot like Season 1 again, but with the reason being that if they don't do it, Negan is going to be angry. Suddenly we have this opportunity for writers to want to go and push Rick and the group into scary zombie-related encounters and go scavenging again back to its roots, while also building up the story about how they will eventually end Negan and the Survivors.”

I've not read the comics first hand but googled enough about it to know that's how the character s in the comics = from another forum I am on that had a comic section, they say he is playing it pretty close to the comic character and JDM is supposed to be a huge fan of the comics too
ritch
25-10-2016
I don't get why people think its surprising that there has been an outcry about it. I wasn't bothered personally but the fact is it was violent on another level, the zombie stuff people seemed to stomach because they are monsters eating people, almost cartoon violence. but when its humans doing it to each other on that sadistic level its going to get noticed. it needed the impact but the cost was upsetting a few people, I get why it might have been to much for some to stomach, not just the gore but the psychological stuff was as bad. its given the show a different feel as well, the fun is gone after that lol.
JDF
25-10-2016
Originally Posted by ritch:
“I don't get why people think its surprising that there has been an outcry about it. I wasn't bothered personally but the fact is it was violent on another level, the zombie stuff people seemed to stomach because they are monsters eating people, almost cartoon violence. but when its humans doing it to each other on that sadistic level its going to get noticed. it needed the impact but the cost was upsetting a few people, I get why it might have been to much for some to stomach, not just the gore but the psychological stuff was as bad. its given the show a different feel as well, the fun is gone after that lol.”

And in a real life post apocalypse world people would be killing each other in ways like that.
Christ_DeBurg
25-10-2016
Originally Posted by ritch:
“I don't get why people think its surprising that there has been an outcry about it. I wasn't bothered personally but the fact is it was violent on another level, the zombie stuff people seemed to stomach because they are monsters eating people, almost cartoon violence. but when its humans doing it to each other on that sadistic level its going to get noticed. it needed the impact but the cost was upsetting a few people, I get why it might have been to much for some to stomach, not just the gore but the psychological stuff was as bad. its given the show a different feel as well, the fun is gone after that lol.”

Of course, the Human against Human, sadistic violence is what takes it to another level entirely. Which as a TV show, it has to do. We've seen the Zombies for 6 seasons; there's no more shock value left there. We know what they can do. Negan and what he did is far worse than any mindless, flesh-eating Zombie. But he is a representation of what Humans are capable of when reduced to Medieval levels of society. It's horrible, but also fascinating to watch, which is what this show is about. You're watching completely the wrong show if you thought that any level of violence was off limits.
Christ_DeBurg
25-10-2016
Originally Posted by JDF:
“And in a real life post apocalypse world people would be killing each other in ways like that.”

Exactly. And this is also exactly how the Human race acted for many, many years until the society that we (fortunately) live in was created.
Brigon
25-10-2016
I'm pissed off that Digital Spy have spoilers for the episode on their front page.
Christ_DeBurg
25-10-2016
Originally Posted by Brigon:
“I'm pissed off that Digital Spy have spoilers for the episode on their front page.”

Wow just noticed that... not even 24 hours after the episode. That's ridiculous for people that haven't had time to see it yet.
ritch
25-10-2016
Originally Posted by JDF:
“And in a real life post apocalypse world people would be killing each other in ways like that.”

I agree but I think people are uncomfortable facing the brutal nature of that subject, its still out there in reality but a lot of people don't want to see it, I know people that avaoid teh news to escape reality. by and large I think people are happy in their bubbles, stuff like this challenges them, makes them think "what would I do". the outcry comes from rejecting it and not wanting to think about it. at the end of the day its entertainment and should be treated as such. sometimes a series needs to shock, personally I think the hopeless feelof it psychologically was worse than the gore, seeing Rick broken down was worse. that acting was amazing
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