I just hoped the pace would be fairly high without too much filler, that was the main complaint last season by they don't seem to have taken it on board if the entire episode filler route. I think they do too many episodes that are focused about a few characters, it slows the pace even more so we have to wait another few weeks to see where the rest of them are. I think they should combine stories in one episode personally.

Yeah, but unlike Negan he is a mug, he couldn't see that Gregory was conning him. What he needs is a big menacing block of wood to give him advice, like Negan has.

I'm kind of with ritch on this, the show seems to be a little lacking at the moment. Too much talk, not enough actual action. I'll stick with it, cause I've stuck with it this long, but it's not half as gripping as previous seasons, and the fallout of Glynn and Abraham isn't what I expected it to be.

Feels at a loss somewhat.

I don't mind the slow pace, find them more interesting and compelling. Also I like how it's focused on different characters each week, means there's not too many things happening on screen and trying to keep up. But I know we all like different things that's just my personal preference .

Game of thrones manages to fit in multiple locations and different character storylines in one episode but then again that has a longer running time and has a bigger budget.

It's not all about plot development, scares and action. Nor should it be. There's a need for character development too in good drama. There is a need for the "slower" scenes and episodes, with less action and more talking so that character can be shown.

To dismiss episodes of that type as mere "filler" is to miss out on something important in making good drama.

If you don't take the time to develop and show character, with scenes where they're mainly just talking you don't get to care about them. And if you don't care about the characters, you don't care what happens to them and that undermines the excitement when you do get to the plot or action bits.

Maggie is not vulnerable. A pregnant woman is. And later, any parent to a newborn.
That is what being a parent is, you worry and care for someone other than yourself.
Hence, if another person wants to hurt you, they know where to start.

And I am of course reffering to the circumstanses in which they live, not our world.

Although, I would give my life to save any of my four children, without hesitation. Like any parent would, However, we do not live in zombieland, where everything go.

I get what you mean in the sense that fillers can have meaningful stuff in there in terms of character development, deeper meaning stuff etc but I think that can excuse the dragging out of plots sometimes. I don't mind slow, but stationary bothers me, its the kind of stuff you would find on a dvd extra, Maggie watering plants etc. My instinct is to think "ah they are dragging this out", instead of thinking this is meaningful stuff that is required. I guess this is down to individual taste, I can see why people like slow burn but at times I think it kills tension, and walking dead is great at tension no doubt about it.

The different stories can be counterproductive sometimes if they leave someone for 4 or so weeks and you not so much forget the story but any tension that might have been there, they like the cliff hagers then I lose interest, you kind of forget the importance of things, and I think they need to keep the viewer in the moment instead of continually switching. Its not like its occasional, every week there is character focused episodes. I felt the same with the continual flash back episodes! I know its a taste thing but I feel they are not catering at all to my viewing tastes lol

but still, the good stuff keeps me watching, when they get the tension and drama right it is very good, I just think its a shame they dont have more of those moments and balance it a bit.

This also makes me think their obsession to kill the Negan we know as the leader is a waste of time, as we have seen someone else will just step into his place. Like Negan said, he's everywhere and seems to have brainwashed all or most of the Saviours into thinking they are him, even sending "Trevor" to the hilltop in his place. To kill "Negan" will involve killing a lot more then just the guy Rick, Carl and Maggie or concentrating on.

It will be interesting to see how this goes considering "our group" have surrendered all of their firearms.

What on earth does one-eye Carl think he's going to do when he gets to Negan's base of operations? Carol is the Terminator of TWD not him.

He's going to share his hair care secrets with Negan's goons.

Must be wash and go

I agree, something is not quite right.

Haha! I'm actually very jealous, Carl's locks are more flowing than mine.

i dont like what theyve done to the walking dead. feel like the zombies are now incidental and its way too much the saviours and negan over whelming and smothering the storyline in this series. last season it was going a bit haywire and the only bit i like now is the kingdom and carols story. maybe theres just too much misery and not enough times and episodes with a mix of stories and some positive moments

I've been a fan since the start, but they are going to have to come up with some way of winding it up. Nothing lasts forever and the last thing fans will want is to realize that it's turning into another Lost.

That said, I'll keep watching until it reaches that point and I don't mind Negan, despite him being way over theatrical

I keep watching out of habit only. It just gets worse. The last episode was 90% filler. And I'm not having 'it was character development' it was just plain old filler.

I did like the episode with King Ezekiel though - at least some of the dialogue in that was funny.

was Gregory conning him though ...the way i read it he was going to give Maggie and Sasha ....it was just that Jesus hid them elsewhere,Hence giving him the whisky

I agree with those saying it wasn't a filler episode, I think the way they have made the episodes this season, they would be best played on Netflix having a binge day watching each episode back to back, it just doesn't work as well played out each week

I still believe the 2nd half of this season will be faster paced and really mixed

Yes, because he is still knowingly hiding them, even Rick handed over an unknown gun, in case Negan found out about it.

I really am hating that Gergory. Have done since he was introduced. Its not even the fact that he was gonna out Maggie and Sasha....its because he is such a wet coward. The worst!

Also, that mansion is pretty empty. Is it just Gregory that lives in the big house? What a ****

Gregory only 'hid' them in his office cupboard (so he thought) to contain them until he could hand them over to Negan. He had no intention of actually helping Maggie and Sasha. His plan all along was to hand them over to try to curry favour with Negan. Jesus suspected what he was up to, hence why he genuinely hid them somewhere else. Gregory's still not hiding them now. Jesus is. (Although it did seem a bit dangerous for Jesus to usurp Gregory over Maggie and Sasha and then immediately bugger off. I daresay Gregory could persude some other Hilltoppers that it's in their best interests if the two (three?) newcomers 'disappeared' on the next supply run.)

Do we know the layout or numbers of Hilltop? How come only four of the Toppers seemed to hear, or at least, re-act to (if you can call Gregory wetting himself a reaction), the walker attack? Is that to further re-enforce the idea that they have no look-outs and generally no idea how to defend themselves, much less any leaders to organise such things?

But he didn't want them finding out that it was him who had set Rick onto the Saviours in the first place, which Simon (that's his name!) ought to have suspected. Like I said, Lucille would have sniffed that out very quickly.

I think everyone just lives in the big house, don't they? It's surrounded by veg gardens, greenhouses etc.

Do they? I didn't realise, or just maybe forgotten, that. Now you mention it, you're right, I can't recall seeing any other houses or accommodations in the grounds.