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Was that the first time that Carl killed someone?
![]() Did you miss the bit in this episode where he told Negan that he killed his own mother or the original episode where he did that? |
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No, he has killed:
Jody - http://walkingdead.wikia.com/wiki/Jody_(TV_Series) A Wolf - http://walkingdead.wikia.com/wiki/Wolf_1_(TV_Series) George - http://walkingdead.wikia.com/wiki/George_(TV_Series) Chris - http://walkingdead.wikia.com/wiki/Chris_(TV_Series) As well as some of The Governor's Militia |
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![]() Did you miss the bit in this episode where he told Negan that he killed his own mother or the original episode where he did that? Oh, how patronising. Lori was dead, or seconds from death, when he shot her. |
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I wonder how Jeffrey DM thought of his scene with the baby on his lap.
Talking like that, up close to an innocent baby, who does not know that it is not real, must be difficult. Yes, he is an actor, but he is also a human being. I'm sure 'Judith's' seen and heard much worse before.
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I wonder how Jeffrey DM thought of his scene with the baby on his lap.
Talking like that, up close to an innocent baby, who does not know that it is not real, must be difficult. Yes, he is an actor, but he is also a human being. Then she's curled up sleeping on his chest in their next scene. I don't think so. That isn't how children of that age behave, especially not in those circumstances. It would have been more credible if he'd been talking and engaging with her while she was on his lap. |
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Was that the first time that Carl killed someone?
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I found that really implausible. A strange man walks into a toddler's bedroom and picks her up and she doesn't cry and object? Sorry would never happen.
Then she's curled up sleeping on his chest in their next scene. I don think so. That isn't how children of that age behave, especially not in those circumstances. It would have been more credible if he'd been talking and engaging with her while she was on his lap. Plus, within the context of the show, Judith's been passed from pillar to post all throughout her short life, so she's probably well used to being handled by strangers.
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![]() Did you miss the bit in this episode where he told Negan that he killed his own mother or the original episode where he did that? It was Maggie that ultimately killed her, by giving her an emergency C-section, and Carl went back to stop her re-animating. |
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It absolutely could. As I say above, at that age, babies react to visual and audible behaviour. Obviously each baby is different, but in general, if you're happy and smiley towards them and don't anything that might obviously upset them, it's not a given that they'll freak out at being picked up by a stranger.
Plus, within the context of the show, Judith's been passed from pillar to post all throughout her short life, so she's probably well used to being handled by strangers. ![]() If a total stranger walks up to a child of that age and just picks them up, they react., even if they just squirm to get away. Stranger anxiety is a normal part of toddler's development and I've never seen an exception. I'm just making the point that the Judith scenes aren't plausible to me and the atmosphere of tension from others present when Negan is in a room would make such a non reaction even less credible. |
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Do you have a subtitles button on your remote? You can use that.
And the issue was that she had somehow smuggled a hammer to her boyfriend, so there's another murder plot foiled. Although what he needed it for when he was surrounded by random bits of metal and a furnace I do not know. Hammer, murder plot? |
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Can't recall anything about a hammer
![]() Mark was on Redirect Duty (presumably funnelling Walkers away from the Powerstation but could be something else) and left it so he could spend time with Amber. Him being away from his post caused something of a mess that needed clearing up (presumably lots of Walkers in a place they didn't want them). |
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![]() Did you miss the bit in this episode where he told Negan that he killed his own mother or the original episode where he did that? i love when people dont pay attention to what they watch but revel in finding out spoilers |
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or Shane?
i love when people dont pay attention to what they watch but revel in finding out spoilers Try paying attention
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I'm still loving Negan as a villain. I can see how some people are unable to see the complexity behind him but Carl identified it in this episode - Negan must strike a balance between fear, threats and physical violence. He's clearly a sociopath and is so fascinating because we never know what way that scale is going to tip.
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the reason i think no one had tried to kill negan is the repercussions if they fail not only will your face be melted your loved ones will pay the ultimate price and while someone may be willing to risk thier life if it fails ,,,,not many will want to risk their loved ones livesand as long as your one of Negans selected few you have it pretty good
and plus the "peasants" are safe from walkers and other gangs.. reasonably well fed have some creature comforts (as long as they follow the rules Negan sets out ) ..and some have probably had it rougher than Ricks lot out in the wilds so why upset the status quo |
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No, he's killed more people than Charles Manson.
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He killed neither his Mother or Shane. Both were already dead when he shot them.
Try paying attention ![]() |
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I disagree. Not in my experience but then this is the baby that never makes a sound during all moments of crisis to alert walkers etc, so I don't expect it to be believable.
If a total stranger walks up to a child of that age and just picks them up, they react., even if they just squirm to get away. Stranger anxiety is a normal part of toddler's development and I've never seen an exception. I'm just making the point that the Judith scenes aren't plausible to me and the atmosphere of tension from others present when Negan is in a room would make such a non reaction even less credible. |
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JDM and the crew would never want a real child to be upset. Sometimes I see children being used and they are in real distress. I think JDM spent a long time reassuring her so that she cuddled up to him. I would rather see that than a child in distress because they can't hide that.
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After being snuggled iniside a cape smothered in zombie guts I doubt anything fazes Judith
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the reason i think no one had tried to kill negan is the repercussions if they fail not only will your face be melted your loved ones will pay the ultimate price and while someone may be willing to risk thier life if it fails ,,,,not many will want to risk their loved ones livesand as long as your one of Negans selected few you have it pretty good
and plus the "peasants" are safe from walkers and other gangs.. reasonably well fed have some creature comforts (as long as they follow the rules Negan sets out ) ..and some have probably had it rougher than Ricks lot out in the wilds so why upset the status quo |
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Plus they had fresh veg that day!
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Couldn't resist going on the spoiling dead site.
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Isnt walking dead going on its mid season break soon? Last year I think I was ep 8 or 9.
Carl, Michonne and Rosita all independently have plans to kill Negan. I blame Rick for that. He's failed as leader so totally that he virtually gave up their ability to resist. With no leader they are running around like headless chickens, and not communicating or coordinating. We don't get to see how any of these pan out. I mean, we know Carl failed but we don't know what his punishment will be. Then we have Daryl's escape attempt (presumably it was Jesus gave him the note) and Rick's attempt to cross the moat. So that's five cliff-hangers in this episode. I feel that's excessive. Quote:
bib - I would say that this latest episode shows clearly that Negan is definitely into rape, despite all his claptrap about the women being with him willingly - obviously they are there through fear, not desire to be with him. He DOES use them as playthings, his own little harem.
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