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The lowest point in the history of Big Brother...
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benbeez1
24-07-2016
BB producers are sadistic & always have been since BB13 they seem to get off to humiliating housemates & constantly causing arguments fueled by BB's sh*t stirring & alcohol they provide
digichant
24-07-2016
Originally Posted by nattoyaki:
“So why the sudden change in the last few years (coinciding with all the casting, extra manipulation etc) to warnings after every single ad break? It's so ridiculously false! It's like watching Dickinson's Real Deal and they have warnings every time like 'WARNING! This segment contains an offer from a dealer that some viewers may find distressingly ten pounds lower than they expected'. My goodness, no wonder children aren't allowed to play outside anymore, let alone climb trees, what on earth has this country come to? ”

I totally agree with you that the warnings are ridiculous and unnecessary, yet here we are discussing this in a thread in which yet another easily offended person is complaining to Ofcom about the show. We'll probably just have to agree to disagree on whether they show the warnings to cover themselves regarding such complaints, or simply to drum up viewership. Although of course it could be both.
JoJo4
24-07-2016
Originally Posted by Denise:
“No warnings would cover this behaviour. I can deal with all natural behaviour, it is supposed to be reality TV. I want to see the housemates warts and all, a true picture of them. What I don't like is the forced problems from BB. All the diary room footage being shown, outside opinions of the housemates being thrown at them and worst of all tonight, ex housemates coming in to totally upset a few.

I found the arguments and relationships far more interesting in the early BBs, natural is so much more interesting seeing them fall out, try and suss each other out and have no idea who is nominating who. They can't even really be totally honest with their nominations these days knowing jolly well all will be shown or in front of each other. I can't help feeling people may nominate different if knew it was private while I'm there.”

I agree. BB as it was in the early days wouldn't be anywhere near explosive enough for today's viewing public - reality TV has grown so much since the early days and many viewers would label the original BB 'dull'.

It would suit me down to the ground, I've said many times that a group of individuals confined together with no contact with the outside world, will organically produce more than enough to keep me entertained.
sutie
25-07-2016
Originally Posted by johnan:
“They must be planning this to be the last channel 5 BB, surely?

It would be a joke if Emma or Rylan said next week the applications to take part in next years BB will soon be available.
Who in their right mind would want to have anything to do with this awful programme, it could be used as an exemplar of how NOT to produce a TV show in media studies "Uni" courses?
I can not think of a single thing that I found enjoyable, not contrived, not possibly scripted, or conversations not preset-up.
And as for the unnecessary character assassinations of perfectly decent people, and the deification of quite woeful people, words fail me.
Awful rubbish, but I kept watching hoping for better, but no it got worse, much worse.”




Re. Who in their right mind would want to have anything to do with this awful programme? -

Anyone with same moronic personality as Ryan.

And sadly, there are lots of them.
nattoyaki
25-07-2016
Originally Posted by digichant:
“I totally agree with you that the warnings are ridiculous and unnecessary, yet here we are discussing this in a thread in which yet another easily offended person is complaining to Ofcom about the show. We'll probably just have to agree to disagree on whether they show the warnings to cover themselves regarding such complaints, or simply to drum up viewership. Although of course it could be both.”

I'm happy to agree to disagree, but it sounds (possibly!) more like we agree to agree! No offence to any OP, ever, but I like to discuss wherever a thread heads, and am always grateful for thoughtful interaction
karl_kennedy
25-07-2016
Originally Posted by Dixon:
“Are we not reacting exactly the way BB wants us to react with all of this?
They are pushing the hm's to extremes in the hope it will get extreme reactions from people watching.
They got it when Jason evicted Leteysha and now this. I bet the producers are sitting back saying job done.”

Tonight was totally different to the Leteysha eviction - that was still part of the game ..and an effective one at that.....what we witnessed tonight was deliberate and extreme provocation and bullying, with evicted / bitter scumbags being give carte blanch by the production team to vilify and degrade decent people - who've done nothing more than take part in their poxy show........

It wasn't an enjoyable TV experience in any way - it went beyond the boundaries of what constitutes reality TV drama....... and I think the reaction they'll get is people will stop watching the show......if thats job done so be it
ForGodsSake
25-07-2016
Originally Posted by Mrs_Astaire:
“you were the one who brought up about kids being influenced by BB. I merely thought that any responsible parent would ensure their children would not be able to view. Come on, you'll have to do a better job than that of pulling me up about some made up nonsense I didn't spout ”

Im not trying to pull you up...you said about the watershed.I merely pointed out that kids will watch it on other mediums ???
ForGodsSake
25-07-2016
Originally Posted by sutie:
“Re. Who in their right mind would want to have anything to do with this awful programme? -

Anyone with same moronic personality as Ryan.

And sadly, there are lots of them. ”

On here by the sounds of things lol
Heatherbell
25-07-2016
Tonight was just a human version of bear baiting .
Just like the bears , the HMs were totally unprepared and unable to defend themselves because the baiters were armed to the teeth with outside info, lies about outside info , and personal agendas . Those who were attacked were stunned, had no means of defense(being unaware of the real public perception of them) and could only sit there and take it .
None of the attack dogs(Ryan and Mad Charlie) actually took part as witnesses in the manner Georgina (and to some degree Teesh) did . No, instead they were allowed to give hate speeches and rant like lunatics escaped from Bedlam.
I'm glad that Jason went postal on the producers , and I'm glad Evelyn broke out . It gave both of them the opportunity to face off with the producers about being set up while they were still angry and upset about it .

On the plus side, daft old Charlie will NEVER get a decent bloke after that . Wow ! Who in their right mind would want to share living space with that kind of cuckoo bird 🐤. She managed to actually shaft herself on national telly , silly silly vindictive vengeful harpy .

Exclusive ,
Charlie fleeing Jason's gaff on the night she drop kicked little Cleo .
http://imgur.com/a/lVwp7
karl_kennedy
25-07-2016
Originally Posted by Heatherbell:
“ the HMs were totally unprepared and unable to defend themselves because the baiters were armed to the teeth with outside info, lies about outside info , and personal agendas . Those who were attacked were stunned, had no means of defense(being unaware of the real public perception of them) and could only sit there and take it .”

I said on here yesterday that if it was indeed the expected scum that were coming in back in for the task, then he should have just got up from the courtroom and sat in the diary room until they'd all ****ed off....would have liked to have seen them try to get him out of there....as it was they definitely should have removed the insane and unstable Charlie when she called him a ****...and when they didn't, Jason should have left the room right then........typical of the guy though, he tried (as always) to do the gentlemanly thing and let her have her say while he literally suffered in silence.....no-one should be subjected to such deliberate pre-scripted bullying....its no wonder he was visibly shaken and furious in the aftermath
WhatJoeThinks
25-07-2016
While I agree that the producers of the show (not Channel 5) perhaps ought to have a re-think about what it means to have a "duty of care" to the housemates, it's worth pointing out that no broadcasting standards were breached by Channel 5. You're wasting their time, as well as your own, by writing to Ofcom. Frankly, I think posting the link smacks of handing out pitchforks. I'm sure if other people wanted to complain to Ofcom they are more than capable of acting on their own impulses, without having to be led by the hand by the OP.
nattoyaki
25-07-2016
I've just caught up...there are no words
amelie74
25-07-2016
Probably one of the worst episodes of BB I've seen. The producers deliberately brought in evicted hms to attack and cause distress primarily to Jason, Evelyn and Andy.
cyro
25-07-2016
Jason or Andy need to win, just as a middle finger up to the producers.
Astute
25-07-2016
I think we can can refer to last night's episode as "the Night of The Bitter Bitches "

What an epitaph !
StarryNight1983
25-07-2016
Originally Posted by Mrs_Astaire:
“lol, it's ridiculous lolol......viewer continues to watch television series which offends him. Some people hang on to stuff just to be offended and then to complain, I believe it's quite exciting for them, why else would they subject themselves to such stress.”

I've never contacted ofcom once about anything I've watched on tv and I can guarantee I won't ever contact them!

If something offends me or upsets me I pick that stick up that's called a "remote control" and I turn the tv over!

Maybe some people in this thread need to try it!!
Jackyc
25-07-2016
Originally Posted by patsylimerick:
“They've been stirring all week - showing the clips last night etc. I think, though I may be wrong, that this is the most manipulation from production and relentless access to outside information that we've ever had. It's becoming quite ridiculous.

I won't be contacting OFCOM, mind. I guess people should realise what they're signing on for and if they don't - there's the door >>>>”

With you on this one, if you don't like it don't watch, simple. is reality TV and they know what they are going into, if they don't then they shouldn't be there in the first place, BB have staff that are trained to deal with the outfall of any situation they create and seem to succeed in keeping the people that threaten to walk in the house so they must be doing something right. This year has been good, much better that previous years when it was getting that fame hungry or under the radar types were taking part.
Moomin STFC
25-07-2016
Originally Posted by karl_kennedy:
“An absolutely deplorable, disgusting and morally bankrupt hour of TV....vermin and scum being given free-reign by the people who actually make the ****ing show ..and given the ammunition to character assassinate and punish the only decent human beings left in there.

That really was so far removed from the original concept of BB that I now hope this is the last series. Enough is enough.”

I'm just watching it now and quite honestly I am appalled.
I have watched EVERY series of BB and tonight's HL was definitely the scraps from the bottom of the barrel.
orangeballoon
25-07-2016
complaining to ofcom just makes you sound silly

low point for BB ? the last 3 c4 and first 2 channel 5 serieses - because they were irrelevant and completely unwatched.


BB is a reality tv show, in competeition with love island, itv2 & mtv reality output... get used to it or dont have a show called BB to watch... the fashion for tv has changed... BB has to become more like what people crave in itv2/mtv shows or die like bhs
karl_kennedy
25-07-2016
Originally Posted by WhatJoeThinks:
“While I agree that the producers of the show (not Channel 5) perhaps ought to have a re-think about what it means to have a "duty of care" to the housemates, it's worth pointing out that no broadcasting standards were breached by Channel 5. You're wasting their time, as well as your own, by writing to Ofcom. Frankly, I think posting the link smacks of handing out pitchforks. I'm sure if other people wanted to complain to Ofcom they are more than capable of acting on their own impulses, without having to be led by the hand by the OP.”

So you keep saying......not sure what your beef is with people who want to complain about the show?...you may have seen nothing in the episode that troubled you enough to want to make a complaint .....but if others want to raise concerns about it - and lots do - they should be free to do so without being harangued by Harry Enfield's Only Me character telling them they're wasting their time and to read the small print in the Ofcom regulations........there was more than enough offensive material in that show last night to warrant contacting them about a potential breach of their broadcasting code ...so here's the link / pitchfork again for those of a similar mind

https://ofcomforms.secure.force.com/...ardsComplaints
karl_kennedy
25-07-2016
Originally Posted by orangeballoon:
“complaining to ofcom just makes you sound silly

low point for BB ? the last 3 c4 and first 2 channel 5 serieses - because they were irrelevant and completely unwatched.


BB is a reality tv show, in competeition with love island, itv2 & mtv reality output... get used to it or dont have a show called BB to watch... the fashion for tv has changed... BB has to become more like what people crave in itv2/mtv shows or die like bhs”

Braindead bullshit.....if last night's show was an indicator of what the show must become to survive then it shouldn't be anywhere near a TV screen and deserves to die.
orangeballoon
25-07-2016
Originally Posted by karl_kennedy:
“Braindead bullshit.....if last night's show was an indicator of what the show must become to survive then it shouldn't be anywhere near a TV screen and deserves to die.”

then it will just be replaced by a show that is like towie/love island...

you wont get what you want... you are the dying out minority of tv viewing in this genre & time slot. in music terms you need to move away from radio 1 or 2 and into gold... youre no longer "happening" enough in your tastes for the new.. you want the old...


ie... c5 has repositioned its output to compete squarely with itv2 not bbc2 or bbc1...

the "summer on c5" trailer shown off before bb started showed c5's summer output was all going to be lightweight bling.... if you don't want lightweight bling, you need to change the channel as it isnt aimed at you.

simples.
Paul Wilson
25-07-2016
Originally Posted by orangeballoon:
“then it will just be replaced by a show that is like towie/love island...

you wont get what you want... you are the dying out minority of tv viewing in this genre & time slot. in music terms you need to move away from radio 1 or 2 and into gold... youre no longer "happening" enough in your tastes for the new.. you want the old...


ie... c5 has repositioned its output to compete squarely with itv2 not bbc2 or bbc1...

the "summer on c5" trailer shown off before bb started showed c5's summer output was all going to be lightweight bling.... if you don't want lightweight bling, you need to change the channel as it isnt aimed at you.

simples.”

And Radio One's happening these days is it? An endless supply of X Factor rejects and an occasional 'r n b' track which is a knicked - sorry, 'sampled' track from the nineties?
karl_kennedy
25-07-2016
Originally Posted by orangeballoon:
“then it will just be replaced by a show that is like towie/love island...

you wont get what you want... you are the dying out minority of tv viewing. in music terms you need to move away from radio 1 or 2 and into gold... youre no longer "happening"”

You're talking out of your arse......its often been said, but this is a golden age for TV....there are more quality shows available now than at any stage in its history ....dont know what world you inhabit but i wouldn't touch the programmes you mentioned with a shitty stick - nor do I ever need to - I stick to quality - one of my few concessions is to dip into BB every series or two because I have an affinity with it built over 17 years or so but if last nights episode was a barometer of where reality TV is now then I'll lobby for it to end ...Towie...Love Island?... nah, I'll leave that garbage to the likes of yourself who is patently content to do no more than wade though the sewers of broadcasting like a pig in shit.

As for music?...radio 1 has been irrelevant for as long as I can recall.....try 6 Music ..might raise your standards
Karis
25-07-2016
Watching last night's episode now and Lateysha has just come in and massacred Andy. It's totally wrong. You can see the lights going on in Jason's head - he knows already who is coming...

This is just the opposite of everything that Big Brother is supposed to be about. It's not fun or entertaining at ALL.
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