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Call Me A Prude But I Find The 'C' Word Appalling
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Miss.D
24-07-2016
Originally Posted by Tahitian:
“Yes, me too, but if you think about it, it's mired in sexism.

I really enjoy saying it, as Vicky. was saying, perhaps because it still has so much bite.

If one were to use d*ck, c*ck or b*llend, technically we should be as offended.

If not, why not.”

I agree with that; technically there are a lot of swear words, and I don't know why that one is considered the nastiest of them all.
sutie
24-07-2016
Originally Posted by Tahitian:
“Yes, me too, but if you think about it, it's mired in sexism.

I really enjoy saying it, as Vicky. was saying, perhaps because it still has so much bite.

If one were to use d*ck, c*ck or b*llend, technically we should be as offended.

If not, why not.”




I think it's because it is also possible to use the above words as terms of affection in banter. eg. 'You, you cock.' Said laughingly.

I don't think the same can be said of the c word, which always seems to be said with nastiness and venom.
Tahitian
24-07-2016
Originally Posted by sutie:
“I think it's because it is also possible to use the above words as terms of affection in banter. eg. 'You, you cock.' Said laughingly.

I don't think the same can be said of the c word, which always seems to be said with nastiness and venom.”

How do you think those words made it into polite conversation then?
Tahitian
24-07-2016
Originally Posted by Miss.D:
“I agree with that; technically there are a lot of swear ones, and I don't know why that one is considered the nastiest of them all.”

Me neither. I find it offensive, as a woman, that this gendered word is considered the worst of them all. Is it to protect my parts or to be offended by them?

Personally I hate the word p*ssy far more.
Vicky.
24-07-2016
Originally Posted by Tahitian:
“Me neither. I find it offensive, as a woman, that this gendered word is considered the worst of them all. Is it to protect my parts or to be offended by them?

Personally I hate the word p*ssy far more.”

Yes this one makes me feel ill.

NOTHING is or ever will be as disgusting as the word 'moist' though. I don't even know why either.
sutie
24-07-2016
Originally Posted by spiralstatic:
“It always surprises me to hear it (I've been particularly surprised to hear it from Jason.)

When I was 12 I saw Schindler's List in a history lesson and became quite obsessed with everything about it. This may sound odd. Hmm. Anyway, I read Schindler's Ark and at the time, for a 12-year-old me, there were quite a lot of big words I didn't know in it. So I read the whole book with a dictionary. Any time I came to a word I didn't know or was just not totally sure of, instead of skimming or guessing, I not only looked it up but I wrote a little dictionary of my own of all the new words I had learned.

Anyway, the reason I talk about this is that this book has swear words in. It has f*** in not starred out at all, but it has c***, starred like that. Now, I had no idea what on Earth c*** could be. I couldn't think what it could possibly be when it was OK to write f*** but not this word. There was nobody I could ask. I looked in dictionaries (LOL!) We didn't have the internet. It was several years later when I found out what the word actually was. (I think I saw it written on a t-shirt in an alternative shop. What a way to discover.)

Whenever I hear the c-word thrown around so readily I always think about those years as a kid when I hadn't a clue what it could be. And I guess it isn't like that for kids now.

I say this and one of my favourite films is The Libertine which has very, very many c***'s in it and also got me into Restoration poetry which is equally lewd. So in drama and art, the word doesn't bother me at all, but in general usage, it always shocks me. I mean personally, I don't swear, at least not in front of people. I recall my best friend's boyfriend saying to a group of us at my first music festival that some people just sounded odd swearing (there was a person introducing bands who swore every other word) & it always stuck with me. But it doesn't bother me if others do. But that word. I always think of it starred out...”




Great post. Reading it reassures that you will never have to resort to swearing with every other word.
claremonts
24-07-2016
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patricia50
24-07-2016
Originally Posted by sutie:
“It seems to be the word of choice for morons these days.”

I agree with you. I hate the way it is creeping into everyday use and find it the most insulting word and yes it does offend me. It just shows up the person who uses as a moron as you rightly said
sutie
24-07-2016
Originally Posted by Tahitian:
“How do you think those words made it into polite conversation then?”



I don't think they have made it into 'polite' conversation, but I imagine that more people feel more comfortable with less harsh words.
jp761
24-07-2016
It's no different to most words, all about context. What you're doing at the time. What kind of mood you're in. Who you're saying it too! Why are you saying it.

About all of that.

Some women are fond of it sexually. Again CONTEXT is very often king!!
Nesta Robbins
24-07-2016
I didn't realise i had such a problem with it myself until hearing the toxic way Charlie spat it out! That moment symbolised how low BB sunk tonight.
sutie
24-07-2016
Originally Posted by Tahitian:
“Me neither. I find it offensive, as a woman, that this gendered word is considered the worst of them all. Is it to protect my parts or to be offended by them?

Personally I hate the word p*ssy far more.”




Given your explanation, isn't that a bit of a contradiction?
Salv*
24-07-2016
Only word I hate. I don't know why. I've said it once in a jokey way to a friend. Once when retelling a story and once in response to a news story about ISIS.

But it hasn't been beeped out on BB for a while now. I think I remember Narinder being the first person on Live TV to ever say it in BB2. Can't remember if it was beeped.

But depends. Sometimes it's aired but recently it hasn't. It was beeped out when Shell called Victor that but I remember it being said on C4 properly too.

And the word that cringes me out most is 'moist'.
B*witched
24-07-2016
Agree OP. That swear word is the worst to me, it sounds so crude and harsh.
spiralstatic
24-07-2016
Originally Posted by claremonts:
“The point I would like to get across was about the aggression with which Charlie used the word. Yes I was brought up being told it was a "bad" word and hardly anyone i know uses it. Neither would I look down on someone who uses it (and the few I know get it laughed off), but I did flinch a bit when Charlie used it at Jason, who has also previously used it, but then it didn't come across as so offensive as the context was different.”

Interesting. Here I find the issue is more complex. When any swear word is directed at you, it does feel like a disregard of you as a human (which is what it is if you are calling someone a swear word I guess.) But I suppose, since we all hear swearing so often, it feels less that way to me personally when I see someone call someone else it. All swear words are equal, but some are more equal than others. For me, I find this word more shocking than other words as a word. But as an insult, if spoken in spite, I don't find any worse than another (And if said as spitefully, putting down a person with no swearing at all is equally horrid. Likely worse as rather than a random insult, you're attacking some specific aspect of their self...) Hmm.....

ETA: Sorry, I see you deleted your post claremont - do you want me to delete this? I quoted it before you deleted (clearly!) I don't think you said anything bad!

Also, thank you sutie (and sorry, I did go a bit (errr.... or very!) off topic!
Tahitian
24-07-2016
Originally Posted by sutie:
“I don't think they have made it into 'polite' conversation, but I imagine that more people feel more comfortable with less harsh words.”


And yet, no one has given me one reason other than 'I was always told' as to why this word is harsh.
diesels hummin
24-07-2016
Sometimes it would be improper not to use it.
Tahitian
24-07-2016
Originally Posted by sutie:
“I don't think they have made it into 'polite' conversation, but I imagine that more people feel more comfortable with less harsh words.”

Originally Posted by sutie:
“Given your explanation, isn't that a bit of a contradiction? ”

The p*ssy part? I see your reasoning but I don't think so as I don't externalise it or try to police the use of that word.
Tahitian
24-07-2016
Originally Posted by spiralstatic:
“It always surprises me to hear it (I've been particularly surprised to hear it from Jason.)

When I was 12 I saw Schindler's List in a history lesson and became quite obsessed with everything about it. This may sound odd. Hmm. Anyway, I read Schindler's Ark and at the time, for a 12-year-old me, there were quite a lot of big words I didn't know in it. So I read the whole book with a dictionary. Any time I came to a word I didn't know or was just not totally sure of, instead of skimming or guessing, I not only looked it up but I wrote a little dictionary of my own of all the new words I had learned.

Anyway, the reason I talk about this is that this book has swear words in. It has f*** in not starred out at all, but it has c***, starred like that. Now, I had no idea what on Earth c*** could be. I couldn't think what it could possibly be when it was OK to write f*** but not this word. There was nobody I could ask. I looked in dictionaries (LOL!) We didn't have the internet. It was several years later when I found out what the word actually was. (I think I saw it written on a t-shirt in an alternative shop. What a way to discover.)

Whenever I hear the c-word thrown around so readily I always think about those years as a kid when I hadn't a clue what it could be. And I guess it isn't like that for kids now.

I say this and one of my favourite films is The Libertine which has very, very many c***'s in it and also got me into Restoration poetry which is equally lewd. So in drama and art, the word doesn't bother me at all, but in general usage, it always shocks me. I mean personally, I don't swear, at least not in front of people. I recall my best friend's boyfriend saying to a group of us at my first music festival that some people just sounded odd swearing (there was a person introducing bands who swore every other word) & it always stuck with me. But it doesn't bother me if others do. But that word. I always think of it starred out...”

And I thought I was the Andy of this forum.

It shocks you because it has been censored, and that's about all.
malcom
24-07-2016
Originally Posted by claremonts:
“I like a laugh and joke as much as the next person, and realise that the C*** word is used in everyday language nowadays, but to hear it on prime time tv is just awful. I know it has been used before in this series, but it really makes me cringe. Am I alone in thinking this way or shall I just shut up and accept that this is the way life is now?🙁”

All swear words are repulsive. I don't see the logic in identifying one word to be worse than another. It's after the warter shed. It's an adult show. I don't see the problem
claremonts
24-07-2016
Originally Posted by Tahitian:
“And yet, no one has given me one reason other than 'I was always told' as to why this word is harsh.”

Can I ask you Tahitian why you feel so strongly about the point raised? I know what the origins of the word are, but it seems to be now used as an everyday sentence filler, and people seem to think that using this word makes them sound more impressive and certainly very intimidating if used in the wrong way. My initial comment was meant as a fingerpoint to Charlie for initially spitting it out at Jason the way she did.
flower 2
24-07-2016
It is a 'Harsh' 'Nasty', word, usually 'SPAT' out by a cretin who is lost for anything intelligent to say.
spiralstatic
24-07-2016
Originally Posted by Tahitian:
“Personally I hate the word p*ssy far more.”

In my work I use a nursery rhyme music book, and do you know how many nursery rhymes there are which are actually not even at all veiled, but entirely brazen kitten-based sexual references.

Sometimes a child picks a page and I think !!! I can't sing and play that!!!

Not all things that are nursery rhymes were originally written with the intention of being ditties for children, for sure!
spiralstatic
24-07-2016
Originally Posted by Tahitian:
“And I thought I was the Andy of this forum.

It shocks you because it has been censored, and that's about all.”

You're right. It doesn't offend me. It shocks me is all. It doesn't offend me to hear the word any more than hearing anyone being utterly nasty without swearing does. I don't really see why a word in itself is more offensive than any other word.

But it shocks me to hear the word in everyday conversation and it shocks me that sometimes I hear kids say it. I guess that is what bothers me. Not the word, but the normalizing of all such words, which to me, this feels the most extreme case of.
Salv*
24-07-2016
Also it doesn't offend me I just don't like it.
If someone says it I'm a bit 'ooo'. Something I don't do with any other words
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