Call Me A Prude But I Find The 'C' Word Appalling

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claremonts

25-07-2016

Originally Posted by spiralstatic:
“Interesting. Here I find the issue is more complex. When any swear word is directed at you, it does feel like a disregard of you as a human (which is what it is if you are calling someone a swear word I guess.) But I suppose, since we all hear swearing so often, it feels less that way to me personally when I see someone call someone else it. All swear words are equal, but some are more equal than others. For me, I find this word more shocking than other words as a word. But as an insult, if spoken in spite, I don't find any worse than another (And if said as spitefully, putting down a person with no swearing at all is equally horrid. Likely worse as rather than a random insult, you're attacking some specific aspect of their self...) Hmm.....

ETA: Sorry, I see you deleted your post claremont - do you want me to delete this? I quoted it before you deleted (clearly!) I don't think you said anything bad!

Also, thank you sutie (and sorry, I did go a bit (errr.... or very!) off topic! ”

Hi-sorry deleted too much then couldn't remember exactly what I had typed so I left it at deleted. This seems to has stirred up a bit of a hornets nest!

Tahitian

25-07-2016

Originally Posted by claremonts:
“Can I ask you Tahitian why you feel so strongly about the point raised? I know what the origins of the word are, but it seems to be now used as an everyday sentence filler, and people seem to think that using this word makes them sound more impressive and certainly very intimidating if used in the wrong way. My initial comment was meant as a fingerpoint to Charlie for initially spitting it out at Jason the way she did.”

I feel strongly because I have always been curious about this issue, like many people. I also don't feel that policing words in society is useful.

Tahitian

25-07-2016

Originally Posted by spiralstatic:
“In my work I use a nursery rhyme music book, and do you know how many nursery rhymes there are which are actually not even at all veiled, but entirely brazen kitten-based sexual references.

Sometimes a child picks a page and I think !!! I can't sing and play that!!!

Not all things that are nursery rhymes were originally written with the intention of being ditties for children, for sure! ”

Ugh. If this were the 80s I'd believe you.

Lou17

25-07-2016

It's repulsive, and garnishes the users more than the recipient.

Charlie, Jason etc I think most have used it this series. It's suggests a small vocabulary...

claremonts

25-07-2016

Originally Posted by Tahitian:
“I feel strongly because I have always been curious about this issue, like many people. I also don't feel that policing words in society is useful.”

I understand what you are saying and am glad that the discussion has stayed at a pleasant level. I know we all have our views, whether we agree with each other or not, and reading back over some comments there is definitely an array of opinions. My reaction was just one of slight shock at the way the word was casually dropped into the scene, and appreciate that you and others would find different words offensive in another scenario. I started a thread and have came away from it with a lot of thinking to do!

Tahitian

25-07-2016

Originally Posted by claremonts:
“I understand what you are saying and am glad that the discussion has stayed at a pleasant level. I know we all have our views, whether we agree with each other or not, and reading back over some comments there is definitely an array of opinions. My reaction was just one of slight shock at the way the word was casually dropped into the scene, and appreciate that you and others would find different words offensive in another scenario. I started a thread and have came away from it with a lot of thinking to do!”

Well done for bringing up a really interesting issue!

spiralstatic

25-07-2016

Originally Posted by Tahitian:
“Ugh. If this were the 80s I'd believe you. ”

Published (or re-published) in 2015! It is a book with hundreds of nursery rhymes in. Obviously there aren't loads that could be read this way, but there are certainly a few. I have a suspicion that the origin of some nursery rhymes is pretty sinister. (Or it could just be my mind that is sinister, err......

)

claremonts

25-07-2016

Originally Posted by Tahitian:
“Well done for bringing up a really interesting issue!”

And thank you for a really interesting discussion!

Tahitian

25-07-2016

Originally Posted by claremonts:
“And thank you for a really interesting discussion!”

I feel like we've all been having the most grown up discussion in here whilst the other posts have done to pot.

reader123

25-07-2016

Originally Posted by claremonts:
“I like a laugh and joke as much as the next person, and realise that the C*** word is used in everyday language nowadays, but to hear it on prime time tv is just awful. I know it has been used before in this series, but it really makes me cringe. Am I alone in thinking this way or shall I just shut up and accept that this is the way life is now?🙁”

I hate that word.

flower 2

25-07-2016

[quote=claremonts;83304688]I understand what you are saying and am glad that the discussion has stayed at a pleasant level. I know we all have our views, whether we agree with each other or not, and reading back over some comments there is definitely an array of opinions. My reaction was just one of slight shock at the way the word was casually dropped into the scene, and appreciate that you and others would find different words offensive in another scenario. I started a thread and have came away from it with a lot of thinking to do![/QUOTE]

Please don't come away thinking that the C word is acceptable.......we have enough of the F word to swallow on TV.....

Tahitian

25-07-2016

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Originally Posted by claremonts:
“I started a thread and have came away from it with a lot of thinking to do![/QUOTE]

Please don't come away thinking that the C word is acceptable...”

Why not?

Gillie6

25-07-2016

C
Derogatory term for a woman. Considered by many to be the most offensive word in the English language.

I find it repulsive too it seems for many the only word they know

Tahitian

25-07-2016

Originally Posted by Gillie6:
“C
Derogatory term for a woman. Considered by many to be the most offensive word in the English language.”

It's used on men, women, transgendered people.

We're discussing it because it's offensive to many.

claremonts

25-07-2016

[quote=flower 2;83304853]

Originally Posted by claremonts:
“I understand what you are saying and am glad that the discussion has stayed at a pleasant level. I know we all have our views, whether we agree with each other or not, and reading back over some comments there is definitely an array of opinions. My reaction was just one of slight shock at the way the word was casually dropped into the scene, and appreciate that you and others would find different words offensive in another scenario. I started a thread and have came away from it with a lot of thinking to do![/QUOTE]

Please don't come away thinking that the C word is acceptable.......we have enough of the F word to swallow on TV.....”

Hi, no I'm not thinking that way, it just makes you realise how many different opinions there are on one topic, and people feel very passionate about putting their point across. As long as it's done in a friendly way then that's fine by me 🙂

flower 2

25-07-2016

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Originally Posted by flower 2:
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Why not?”

Love....should mean something......Hate...should mean something....

and

the word.....C*** means...Nothing, just an easy name calling word to offend and be the winner in an argument.

Tahitian

25-07-2016

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Originally Posted by Tahitian:
“
Love....should mean something......Hate...should mean something....

and

the word.....C*** means...Nothing, just an easy name calling word to offend and be the winner in an argument.”

What does c*ck mean then? Is it any better?

flower 2

25-07-2016

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Originally Posted by flower 2:
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What does c*ck mean then? Is it any better?”

No ....equally as infantile but not quite as harsh.

Tahitian

25-07-2016

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Originally Posted by Tahitian:
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No ....equally as infantile but not quite as harsh.”

I am trying to get to the bottom of what makes it harsh and no one can tell me anything specific to the word itself, so I am questioning what characteristics make one word for genitals worse, and if it's because being associated with women's parts is bad, something isn't right about that in this day and age.

flower 2

25-07-2016

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Originally Posted by flower 2:
“
I am trying to get to the bottom of what makes it harsh and no one can tell me anything specific to the word itself, so I am questioning what characteristics make one word for genitals worse, and if it's because being associated with women's parts is bad, something isn't right about that in this day and age.”

It doesn't matter what the word 'means' ..... people saying or receiving it have no care of it's original meaning......

It is just used by people who want to have the final, loudest, angriest word....with aggression and offence......

And I don't want to hear that, whether the word of the century is C... or Piles.....

The most offensive word now is C...

And I don't want it to be everyday language until piles takes over, then I will have a rethink about piles.

nattoyaki

25-07-2016

For me all words are neutral, it's the intent that gives them power.

That particular word has, through connotation and history, the potential to be one of, if not the most, devastating words in the English language.

And Charlie powered it to the max with absolutely pure venom and hatred.

Disgraceful, utterly disgraceful

Darcyprincess

25-07-2016

I think you are spot on, I loathe the word, I find it disgusting when a man uses the word but even more disgusting when a women uses it! I don't think it says too much about people that use this type of language, it really makes me cringe!

Morbid

25-07-2016

I'm sure I remember in BB5 (?) there was a big argument where Shell called Victor the 'c' word, which he was angry about, and Shell later apologised for calling him 'that word'...?

Tahitian

25-07-2016

Originally Posted by nattoyaki:
“For me all words are neutral, it's the intent that gives them power.

That particular word has, through connotation and history, the potential to be one of, if not the most, devastating words in the English language.(”

I would reserve that for the N word. The C word doesn't come close.

Not one person has given me one connotation.

flower 2

25-07-2016

Originally Posted by Morbid:
“I'm sure I remember in BB5 (?) there was a big argument where Shell called Victor the 'c' word, which he was angry about, and Shell later apologised for calling him 'that word'...?”

She did, Victor was shocked and reacted, but she was blonde and sweet and got away with it.

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