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Call Me A Prude But I Find The 'C' Word Appalling
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Tahitian
25-07-2016
Originally Posted by flower 2:
“She did, Victor was shocked and reacted, but she was blonde and sweet and got away with it.”

If anyone deserved to be called that, it was him.
flower 2
25-07-2016
Originally Posted by Tahitian:
“I would reserve that for the N word. The C word doesn't come close.

Not one person has given me one connotation.”

So what are your thoughts you C...?
Tahitian
25-07-2016
Originally Posted by flower 2:
“So what are your thoughts you C...?”

My thoughts on what, you c*nt yourself?
flower 2
25-07-2016
Originally Posted by Tahitian:
“My thoughts on what, you c*nt yourself?”

Intelligent response...
nattoyaki
25-07-2016
Originally Posted by Tahitian:
“I would reserve that for the N word. The C word doesn't come close.

Not one person has given me one connotation.”

I haven't read your or any other posts on this thread yet, sorry, so I don't quite know where you're coming from. I simply posted my immediate reaction to what I have just seen, bearing in mind my understanding of the history of both words.

As someone who is one step removed from Marting Luther King Jnr's family I respectfully disagree.

I fully acknowledge your opinion and cannot disagree with it, for it is yours, and equally valid, just as I hope you will respect mine
Tahitian
25-07-2016
Originally Posted by flower 2:
“Intelligent response...”

As intelligent as yours.
Tahitian
25-07-2016
Originally Posted by nattoyaki:
“I haven't read your or any other posts on this thread yet, sorry, so I don't quite know where you're coming from.”

Not even the OPs? I recommend it as there are lots of intelligent views given.

I'm not sure how your relationship to MLK would make a difference as to the connotations of the word for the masses.

Otherwise, I respect your respectful wishes and obviously agree that all have valid opinions.
flower 2
25-07-2016
Originally Posted by Tahitian:
“As intelligent as yours.”

Granted....goodnight.
Tahitian
25-07-2016
Originally Posted by flower 2:
“Granted....goodnight.”

So you concede, you only posted to call me the c word, you aren't interested in my thoughts on whatever it was. Good night.
StevieR
25-07-2016
Originally Posted by Tahitian:
“I would reserve that for the N word. The C word doesn't come close.

Not one person has given me one connotation.”

I think the c word and n word are the two most repulsive words and hate it when I hear either. I would have preferred to have it bleeped out.

Maybe it's a regional thing or simply a case of how you were raised. I was raised to think that swearing is a way of telling how high (or low) a persons IQ is. More swear words means a lower IQ.,
Vicky8675309
25-07-2016
I'm confused. I know the literal meaning of c*nt but I don't know how it is meant as an insult. I know that saying "you are being a c*ck or a pr*ck" is a way of saying "you are being a jerk" and that saying "you are being a p*ssy" means you are being a coward or wimp. Sexist gender role assignments for "cuss words" or insults. But what does being a c*nt mean? is it the same as being a p*ssy or wimp?

I don't use the words c*nt much (very rarely to almost never). It is not a word used much in my geographic location but I'm sure it will change. I think I use the word f**k more than I would like (same goes for the words "like", "actually" and "literally" but I am trying to break that habit). Words in themselves don't bother me but the intent or way it is used can be bothersome because, who likes to be insulted.

C*nt may be more shocking for me to hear but it is just because I don't hear it often. At the same time it doesn't really bother me since it is just a word and it is the context in which it is used that can ruffle my feathers.

Moist also doesn't bother me...it makes me think of moist chocolate cake
nattoyaki
25-07-2016
Originally Posted by Tahitian:
“Not even the OPs? I recommend it as there are lots of intelligent views given.

I'm not sure how your relationship to MLK would make a difference as to the connotations of the word for the masses.

Otherwise, I respect your respectful wishes and obviously agree that all have valid opinions.”

Yes I read the OPs post but not the replies, sorry for not being clear.

I had no discussions with Martin Luther King Jnr, he was murdered before I was born. As I said I am one step removed from his remaining family, and in fact my academic specialism is black history. I thought that may have prompted you to consider I may have some non-reactionary insight into the subject.

My late mother came from east Africa and married a white British man. I myself have been the subject of a great deal of racist abuse at times, to the point of threats to my life.

On reflection, after time to calm down from that absolutely disgusting episode, and maintaining my long held belief that all words are neutral until charged by intent which can be amplified by history, emotion and energy, I still find the C word (even though as a male it probably affects me less than most females) to be slightly more potentially powerful than the N word. But I fully accept that my experience will be different from yours, and am very sorry if the racist attacks you have suffered have been worse than my own.

Both words used in a negative way are beyond reproach imo, I hope we can agree on that.

I also think Charlie should have been immediately ejected and should never be allowed near BB again, but I have no trust whatsoever in this show anymore. I think that is the final straw for me.

Wee Tinkers
25-07-2016
Not keen either but have felt like using it tonight.
nattoyaki
25-07-2016
Originally Posted by StevieR:
“I think the c word and n word are the two most repulsive words and hate it when I hear either. I would have preferred to have it bleeped out.

Maybe it's a regional thing or simply a case of how you were raised. I was raised to think that swearing is a way of telling how high (or low) a persons IQ is. More swear words means a lower IQ.,”

It can definitely be both regional and how you were raised, I think you are spot on. I was raised never to swear, but as I've grown older I've realised that (for me) I can choose any word and give it any intent I choose. Language can be, and is used, as a trap, and I will not be trapped. I don't let words control me anymore - I control them. As a result I now swear when I consider it serves my own purpose, (though most ****ing eloquently I like to think ).

However I always consider others who are around me when I use any language. I almost never swear in public out of respect for those around me who don't or may not appreciate my own take on things.

I think those who swear thoughtlessly every other sentence without thinking about what they're saying is very sad, and it always repulses me. For me that's a sociological problem and not necessarily to do with IQ.
katiekoo
25-07-2016
Originally Posted by claremonts:
“I like a laugh and joke as much as the next person, and realise that the C*** word is used in everyday language nowadays, but to hear it on prime time tv is just awful. I know it has been used before in this series, but it really makes me cringe. Am I alone in thinking this way or shall I just shut up and accept that this is the way life is now?🙁”

I used to feel the same about that word.

But I DO say it now. Not usually out loud. And only directed at a few people I am angry about.

But it really describes them
aggielane
25-07-2016
The word doesn't bother me. And i have to confess when certain HMs appear on my TV i have taken to shouting it out like a person with tourettes, What does annoy me about it, is that far more people were offended by Charlie saying it but nobody batted an eyelid when Jason said it.
Skyrah
25-07-2016
I really HATE that C word, IMO it's the most disgusting swear word & it should be banned from TV
spiralstatic
25-07-2016
Originally Posted by Vicky8675309:
“I'm confused. I know the literal meaning of c*nt but I don't know how it is meant as an insult. I know that saying "you are being a c*ck or a pr*ck" is a way of saying "you are being a jerk" and that saying "you are being a p*ssy" means you are being a coward or wimp. Sexist gender role assignments for "cuss words" or insults. But what does being a c*nt mean? is it the same as being a p*ssy or wimp?”

I would say it meant despicable, horrible, nasty, odious. That's what it is girls. Lovely, eh! Next time someone fancies using it, perhaps they could say "You despicable dastard!" instead? I think the power of swear words though is that when used as an insult they don't only imply something negative is directed at you. They reduce you as though you're not worthy of being insulted like a person, the person throwing the insult sees you as a mere ... whatever.

At the same time, I think a lot of people just use these words without true care or concern what the meaning is other than as an insult, generally speaking. The f-word for example is often used by many in a similar way to "very" as though it is more emphatic than very. Instead, I think ultimately this only takes away any power the word has.
Skyrah
25-07-2016
Originally Posted by aggielane:
“The word doesn't bother me. And i have to confess when certain HMs appear on my TV i have taken to shouting it out like a person with tourettes, What does annoy me about it, is that far more people were offended by Charlie saying it but nobody batted an eyelid when Jason said it.”

the only time I've ever heard Jason say it was when he'd repeated what Charlie called him... not exactly the same thing, and I still stand by my statement I HATE that C word.
aggielane
25-07-2016
Originally Posted by Skyrah:
“the only time I've ever heard Jason say it was when he'd repeated what Charlie called him... not exactly the same thing, and I still stand by my statement I HATE that C word.”

He said it a number of times in the diary room to BB during one of his woe is me moments
shelleyj89
25-07-2016
I've not watched last night's episode yet so I don't know in what context Charlie said it but I shuddered the other night when Jason said it. And found it funny that he had previously accused Ryan of being vulgar! I hate the word and am surprised BB don't bleep it out. I always remember the odd time I watched The Osbournes (please don't hate me) that was the only swear word they would bleep out.
jez37
25-07-2016
Originally Posted by claremonts:
“I like a laugh and joke as much as the next person, and realise that the C*** word is used in everyday language nowadays, but to hear it on prime time tv is just awful. I know it has been used before in this series, but it really makes me cringe. Am I alone in thinking this way or shall I just shut up and accept that this is the way life is now?🙁”

You are right. I too find it disgusting. My husband also finds it disgusting and the majority of my friends.
spiralstatic
25-07-2016
Originally Posted by Skyrah:
“the only time I've ever heard Jason say it was when he'd repeated what Charlie called him... not exactly the same thing, and I still stand by my statement I HATE that C word.”

He's said it numerous times in the diary room, usually when he wants to leave and the like. In the kind of way: "You're making me look like a ...." "I look like a ...." "Charlie's making me look like a ......."
GreenEyes8
25-07-2016
Originally Posted by claremonts:
“I like a laugh and joke as much as the next person, and realise that the C*** word is used in everyday language nowadays, but to hear it on prime time tv is just awful. I know it has been used before in this series, but it really makes me cringe. Am I alone in thinking this way or shall I just shut up and accept that this is the way life is now?🙁”

No you're not alone.....and No you should not just shut up and accept it....

Gutter Language at it's worst......and I'm NOT a Prude either....
ProKitzel
26-07-2016
It's just a word like any other and shouldn't need bleeped after the watershed. I think a lot of people on here must have lead very sheltered lives if they are only hearing it used frequently recently. I've been hearing it used regularly since I was a toddler 30+ years ago by all types of people and it's not even done in an offensive way. I live in NI so maybe it's more common here but then again I also hear it lots on youtube.
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