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Old 25-07-2016, 15:31
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I started a similar thread with Corrie, so thought I'd do the same with EE.

For me, it would have to be the January - October period of 2013. It was just insulting to viewers and absolutely nothing happened. All the good/great characters were leaving or had gone, and the show was at rock bottom. How it didn't receive its lowest ever figures in this era is beyond me.

2004 & 2006 were pretty bad, but at least it had elements of Classic EastEnders. They were nowhere near as bad as the 2013 period.
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Old 25-07-2016, 15:34
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I'm in the minority but between the years of 1997 and 1998 was the first period when the show took an long awful nosedive in quality. Absolutely despised that period with a passion.
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Old 25-07-2016, 15:36
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I'm in the minority but between the years of 1997 and 1998 was the first period when the show took an long awful nosedive in quality. Absolutely despised that period with a passion.
Quite surprised with this, as a lot of people look back on these years as 'Golden Years'. What made you dislike the era so much?
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Old 25-07-2016, 15:44
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Quite surprised with this, as a lot of people look back on these years as 'Golden Years'. What made you dislike the era so much?
I definitely wouldn't see those years as a golden period as it was obvious that the show was going through a creative slump as everything just seem so pedestrian after the success of the early-mid 90s came to a halt. Luckily Matthew Robinson rejuvinated the show in a major way when he took over in 1998.
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Old 25-07-2016, 15:47
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In general 2011-13 was the absolute pits, but the summer of 2012 and "we love you Kat Moon" was when it really hit rock bottom.
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Old 25-07-2016, 15:47
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Late 2006 - Mid 2007 for me.

What they did to Pauline before killing her off was unforgivable, then the ridiculous death of Joe Macer that followed, and the Rob/Dr May/Dawn rubbish. There was just nothing good about the show at that time (although the Sean vs Jake Moon plot was watchable.)

The months after the shows 30th anniversary up until around October 2015 come a close second with the Carters dominating every episode. I would have switched off if it wasn't for Kathy's return.
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Old 25-07-2016, 15:48
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Now??
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Old 25-07-2016, 15:57
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Kat's affair
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Old 25-07-2016, 15:57
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Certainly a contender.
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Old 25-07-2016, 15:59
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In general 2011-13 was the absolute pits, but the summer of 2012 and "we love you Kat Moon" was when it really hit rock bottom.
I'm in the minority that thing the latter half of 2012 wasn't that bad. Especially compared to the first half. The Kat Moon story was dreadful, but at least there were actual storylines, which wasn't the case in 2013. The reveal of Heather's murder and Sharon's return week were also quite good. I completely agree when you say 2011-2013 was the pits though. It really went into decline in the summer of 2011, and has never fully recovered since.
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Old 25-07-2016, 16:09
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Kat had some good development in 2013 and I liked the rebuilding of the Beales. There was also a smattering of good Michael/Janine moments that year and Tanya got a decent exit. So I wouldn't say 2013 personally.

I'd go with bass's nomination - the summer of 2012 was just dreadful with the beginning of Kat's affair. That storyline was saved only by a good reveal episode but sitting through that godawful 'We love you Kat Moon' ep and the months of Kat meeting a shadow was like an endurance test.

2012 for me was worse than 2011, even with the three months of Moon hell in the latter, as I at least enjoyed Mandy's return, Vanessa's meltdown and Janine's granny dying that year. I would struggle to pick out 3 things I liked about 2012.
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Old 25-07-2016, 16:17
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For me Staceys recent melt down has been some of poorest most tiresome episodes to ever air. It seemed like the entire show was revolving around her and it was horrendous.
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Old 25-07-2016, 16:19
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2011-13 for me.
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Old 25-07-2016, 16:20
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2013 was horrendous.
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Old 25-07-2016, 16:21
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Post Live Week it has been pretty hard going at times.

The constant tinkering and sometimes wholesale rewriting of established backstories has peed off a lot of viewers.

Then there's been the weeks of sheer tedium on par with the worst of Newman (missing cold cuts, a snake on the loose).
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Old 25-07-2016, 16:23
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I hated the period with between 1996-1998 when the show was revolve around Tiffany. Hateful character and annoying whiney voice
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Old 25-07-2016, 18:09
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When Kat was having an affair with Derek and we were supposed to guess who it was!
I can't imagine why they thought this was a good idea as it took away all the drama and we had no insight into their feelings. It was just cheap and tacky, truly the most dreadful thing EE have ever done - even the Ferreira kidney story was better than that.
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Old 25-07-2016, 18:53
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2003-04 - That awful Ferraira family, Boots the Cat and the Cardboard Funfair

2006-07 - Pauline being killed off and prior to that, her character assassination.

2013 - The "Love and Warmth" era, and Liam's gang story that ended with Little Mix played at the end. I still laugh about that today!

I didn't mind the Kat/Derek affair storyline, and I think the Christmas episode was one of the best ever.
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Old 25-07-2016, 18:54
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When was the 'Summer of Moons'? 2011? That was the worst.
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Old 25-07-2016, 18:56
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2011-end of 2013
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Old 25-07-2016, 19:04
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20/2/2015 and all that flowed from it.

Gangster central era
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Old 25-07-2016, 19:17
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Even though I can't remember 2011 that much it was probably rubbish with the loss of Peggy and Stacey in 2010 and wasn't that when the Moon brothers (the next Phil & Grant!) were on the scene? *shudders*
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Old 25-07-2016, 19:21
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I hated the period with between 1996-1998 when the show was revolve around Tiffany. Hateful character and annoying whiney voice
All of this! It didn't help matters either that she was played by one of the worst 'actresses' ever to grace Elstree.
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Old 25-07-2016, 19:22
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Even though I can't remember 2011 that much it was probably rubbish with the loss of Peggy and Stacey in 2010 and wasn't that when the Moon brothers (the next Phil & Grant!) were on the scene? *shudders*
I didn't find 2011 THAT bad. Peggy and Stacey's exits definitely affected the show, but the first half of 2011 weren't a drastic change. The baby swap storyline gave EastEnders some outstanding viewing figures and the cast was pretty decent, with the likes of Pat, Kat, Carol, Tanya, Zainab, Janine etc... When Ronnie left in July, it definitely took a nose dive in quality, but it was still mostly watchable, even if it was very different. Pat's death was when things really started to slip for me. 2012 had some decent moments though, which kind of glossed over how badly the show was doing. The ratings were also still acceptable/decent.
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Old 25-07-2016, 19:22
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The 2011-2013 era, just dreadful and insulting. Decent characters replaced by a cardboard cut outs of boys with six packs fighting. The Kat shagger storyline was an insult to the character and Derek Branning was a complete moron. Kirkwood and Newman had no idea what they were doing and the show became unrecogniseable. There was very little to account for during those eras to balance out the disadvantages, it became a Hollyoaks parody then during the Newman era it became like Corrie with love and warmth and nothing happened, and if it did, it was a half arsed attempt and dreadful.

Thing is though, I don't think I will ever laugh at an EE scene as I did this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3t__m-3xhY
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