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Jackson and his "accepted" speech.
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Annabel la
26-07-2016
Originally Posted by 2la:
“The boy is so cringey. His favourite topic of conversation is himself.
Keeps saying 'accepted for being ME' yet no one knows who HE actually is with his fake accent, tears, laughter etc. He is an embarrassment. Hope he's gone next.”

Why don't you all send each other private messages.
When I've posted Ive changed my mind about Evelyn .
It's a group of the same people who ignore or intimidate others on threads like this carry on among yourselves😃😃😃😃you obviously like to be validated by like minded people Have looked on the other threads and know why you didn't answer my question😃😃😃sad !
Annabel la
26-07-2016
Originally Posted by JT Effect:
“He's a young, good-looking, straight male.

He models for a living, has a gorgeous child and an apparently good relationship with the child's mother. He's had 300 women willing to sleep with him and seemed popular in the house (apart from Evelyn catching on to his contradictions )

So what exactly does he feel the need to be 'accepted' about? He's what most of society would class as privileged and blessed, surely?

It's not like he's struggling with a socially awkward disability like Tourettes, he wasn't born in the wrong body, he's not gay (or bi) growing up in a community which accepts that easily, he's not ugly or overweight.

The fact that he's using the word 'acceptance' (a lot!) comes across as very disingenuous - but that's Jackson to a tee!”

Maybe there's something you don't know although he does make it clear but I do take our point at leat you've thought out what you've said carefully and explained why you think what you do thank you for not resorting to unpacked up comments 😃
A good post
Annabel la
26-07-2016
Sorry for typos😞
2la
26-07-2016
Originally Posted by Annabel la:
“Why don't you all send each other private messages.
When I've posted Ive changed my mind about Evelyn .
It's a group of the same people who ignore or intimidate others on threads like this carry on among yourselves😃😃😃😃you obviously like to be validated by like minded people Have looked on the other threads and know why you didn't answer my question😃😃😃sad !”

I have no clue what you are going on about. Wrong thread maybe?
HonestLee
26-07-2016
It's quite simple

He's still at that 'tribal' age, stuck between what - he thinks - is being - culturally - one way or the other

He'd prefer to be articulate but feels it'll cost him his street-cred

He hasn't yet learned that there is no 'way to be' other than who YOU are

Once he tires of the inner conflict he'll find peace in himself
zerosky
26-07-2016
Originally Posted by Annabel la:
“Maybe just maybe you don't know why he feels like that!
Just as I hadn't realised certain things about Hughie!?!?
Maybe and just maybe you don't understand or don't want to the reason for your chosen favourite is in there?

Be very interesting to know how each one of you on this thread votes for and if it iis a true representation of every the fans of all the other 5 !that has posted so far!
Who on this thread votes for Andy?
Who votes for Jason?
Who votes for Hughie?
Who votes for Jayne?

Only people who have posted so far!
All the housemates are getting on .
Don't know why we can't.😃”

I've never voted If I was to vote it would be for Andy

Yes Jackson may have had troubles in his past, but everybody has a choice regarding their behaviour. He chooses to behave like a fourteen year old.
Kopite1763
26-07-2016
Originally Posted by HonestLee:
“It's quite simple

He's still at that 'tribal' age, stuck between what - he thinks - is being - culturally - one way or the other

He'd prefer to be articulate but feels it'll cost him his street-cred

He hasn't yet learned that there is no 'way to be' other than who YOU are

Once he tires of the inner conflict he'll find peace in himself”

But wasn't that the advice he offered Hughie?
Scarlett Berry
26-07-2016
Originally Posted by Kopite1763:
“But wasn't that the advice he offered Hughie?”

Yes the oracle of wisdom that is Jackson, most certainly did offer that magnificent bit of worldly advice to Hughie
minxymoo
26-07-2016
Originally Posted by JVS:
“Nauseating.”

Tired contrived and been done before.
HonestLee
26-07-2016
Originally Posted by Kopite1763:
“But wasn't that the advice he offered Hughie?”

Exactly my point Kopite

He knows it deep down to be true but hasn't the development yet to 'live it' beyond just 'speaking it'

He'll thrive once he can learn self-sufficiency away from 'the herd' and his imagined obligations
Alrightmate
26-07-2016
Originally Posted by JT Effect:
“He's a young, good-looking, straight male.

He models for a living, has a gorgeous child and an apparently good relationship with the child's mother. He's had 300 women willing to sleep with him and seemed popular in the house (apart from Evelyn catching on to his contradictions )

So what exactly does he feel the need to be 'accepted' about? He's what most of society would class as privileged and blessed, surely?

It's not like he's struggling with a socially awkward disability like Tourettes, he wasn't born in the wrong body, he's not gay (or bi) growing up in a community which accepts that easily, he's not ugly or overweight.

The fact that he's using the word 'acceptance' (a lot!) comes across as very disingenuous - but that's Jackson to a tee!”

Absolutely. Every series people like to think they can 'suss out' gameplayers, and almost always go for the soft targets. Usually people who just get name-called it the most, or housemates who literally tell you that they want to do well and get to the final.
People in general tend to not think about what a gameplayer actually is as we have come to understand the meaning of the term.

It's likely to be a housemate who the housemates trust because that would suggest that their gameplaying is working effectively.
The gameplayer is likely to be one who uses the same phrases and platitudes which BB housemates in previous years have used, the person who does a lot for show, who starts spontaneously acting in exaggerated ways then calms down just as quickly, the person who frequently acts out premeditated rants in the diary room, cries at the drop of a hat to tug on your emotional heartstrings, who is a walking self-advertisement of themselves. who talks about their hard life, their journey, that they're doing it for their children, wanting to be accepted. that they've come from being a boy to man.

When you find most of these elements within one housemates, if not all of them, then usually I'd say that you've found your real gameplayer.
But for some reason they always seem to get away with not being called a gameplayer. It's often the case that all it takes is to call somebody else a gameplayer first and they're immediately perceived to be a 'massive' gameplayer.

It's even got to the point when the evidence for somebody being a 'massive' gameplayer can consist of simply not being dramatic enough to not voice their displeasure or annoyance with somebody.
One example of this was the other night when Ryan came into the house and accused Jason of being a gameplayer based on the criteria that he 'only told people what he thought about them when it was necessary'.
Yes Ryan. That's actually normal behaviour. That's what most of us are like in the reality of the real world.
I think that this is the sort of 'gameplaying' that every single housemate is guilty of, bar none. If any housemate is nervous about how other housemates see them and is paranoid and edgy, and their behaviour is affected, I think that's understandable if they don't want to get nominated.

But Jackson is a full on gameplaying machine, the cliched 'massive' gameplayer, and for some reason housemates themselves don't even seem to spot them, and neither do large amounts of viewers. Although in Jackson's case Evelyn appeared to, and perhaps Laura too.
Even though they play out the same tired antics and reel out the same old platitudes and phrases as you've seen so many previous housemates use in previous series.
Somehow it has come to the point where housemates providing affected performances which have been cherry-picked from the behaviours of previous housemates which have been seen so many times before are seen as genuine housemates. But housemates who mostly behave in the normal ways that we do in real life are seen as the gameplayers in the house. Now that's strange and screwed up.

You just know that Emma is not going to bring up Jackson being a gameplayer in his interview when he leaves the house don't you? It just isn't going to happen. But a housemates who is seen as a gameplayer just because they've been accused of being one by other housemates will get a grilling over it.

Jackson constantly telling people that 'he's just being him' but elaborating on it with long drawn out self-serving speeches, usually with Andy sat there as a stooge having to listen to the drivel, or Jackson occasionally bringing up how he's in there to be 'accepted' should tell people all they need to know. But for some reason with most people it doesn't.
Alrightmate
26-07-2016
Originally Posted by Kopite1763:
“But wasn't that the advice he offered Hughie?”

Good point. Didn't he say something along the lines that if other people don't 'accept' you for who you are then it's their problem?

Caught out again.
lon_chaney
26-07-2016
Yeh watching it now on My5 - hes playing the ive been on such an amazing journey card.
I just think hes desperate for the money - grasping little chav who looks like he could do with a good wash
little-monster
26-07-2016
Originally Posted by Jeannie_Wilson:
“Sick of hearing this twerp go on about being accepted by the public.

SHUT UP!”

I agree

Load of tripe. But i feel this bollocks has added to his popularity.
trevor tiger
26-07-2016
Originally Posted by HonestLee:
“It's quite simple

He's still at that 'tribal' age, stuck between what - he thinks - is being - culturally - one way or the other

He'd prefer to be articulate but feels it'll cost him his street-cred

He hasn't yet learned that there is no 'way to be' other than who YOU are

Once he tires of the inner conflict he'll find peace in himself”

Yeah I think he wants to be accepted for being middle class and well spoken. It's been a struggle but I think he's made it.
Pitman
26-07-2016
I'd really like to know the reason he has been shunned by society for so long, he doesn't seem to open up about this, almost as if he is making it up and hasn't been shunned at all and is a lying little toe-rag?.
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