Why are the ex-housemates so bitter and angry ?

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Alrightmate

26-07-2016

Originally Posted by Darcyprincess:
“But then on saying this, why did all these Twitter followers not vote Jason out last Friday when they had the chance? I wonder if she really did have such a big following! Lateysha made no effort with Jason, Andy, Chelsea and Laura and Evelyn to a degree! It was so good to see Lateysha go and then her bitches as well like Ryan and then Sam last night! Plus Georgina and Charlie going before her! Otherwise they would have picked off Jason, Andy, Laura and Evelyn one by one and it would have been a different final completely then!”

Because that would be like saying Twitter is more important than it probably deserves credit for.
Just because Twitter says something doesn't mean that everyone else should just jump on board and agree.

I agree with all your other points.
I'm not happy that Jackson is still there, but I suppose that there were just too many f*ckwits and not enough evictions. Apart from him I think that all the other 5 are all right really. I'm actually quite surprised that 5 of the 6 in the final are actually quite a good and relatively varied bunch.

Alrightmate

26-07-2016

Originally Posted by Veri:
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What are HMs supposed to do? Never be in a conflict with anyone because a random twist might come along and give that person the power to evict you? I can't think of any HMs who were popular here in the past who played it that way. Even Rachel would have been toast if Luke got the power to evict her.

Jason has had more HMs unhappy with him than Lateysha seemed to, yet he's been hailed as a great game player and Lateysha's supposedly a "crap" one.

It seems to me she "played the game" pretty well and was taken out by someone who thought her position was too strong for her to be defeated in any other way.”

BIB. They can do what they want. Not my problem.

If I don't like somebody then I just don't like them. I'm not going to tell them how to behave to help them. If they are an arsehole I want to see them as the arsehole they are.

flower 2

26-07-2016

Originally Posted by Veri:
“There's no such thing as "karma". Do you believe some mysterious force led to BB deciding on that twist, or something?

And her comments on Jason might have looked like much better game-play if it hadn't been for the twist. Jason might even have been evicted by now.

What are HMs supposed to do? Never be in a conflict with anyone because a random twist might come along and give that person the power to evict you? I can't think of any HMs who were popular here in the past who played it that way. Even Rachel would have been toast if Luke got the power to evict her.

Jason has had more HMs unhappy with him than Lateysha seemed to, yet he's been hailed as a great game player and Lateysha's supposedly a "crap" one.

It seems to me she "played the game" pretty well and was taken out by someone who thought her position was too strong for her to be defeated in any other way.”

That is exactly why I think the public should vote to 'Evict' every time.....we see what goes on in the diary room, we see what 'gossip' goes on between housemates that other housemates don't......

It should remain up to US who remains and who goes.

Alrightmate

26-07-2016

Originally Posted by Veri:
“That's a strategy that would have been despised here throughout most of BB history and would still be despised here if the "wrong" HM adopted it. See also my previous post. Even the beatific Rachel had some HMs who'd have evicted her.

I don't want to see BB full of "getalong" HMs who avoid all conflict for fear of random twists.

Besides, Lateysha had reached a position where most of the HMs wouldn't have evicted her. She was getting nearly no nominations. So even against a twist like the one that eliminated her, she was doing pretty well. For some twists, being on good terms with all the others might even work against you.”

I don't know what point you're making. It makes no difference what we think. Those are two ways for anyone to get far.

Originally Posted by Veri:
“Assuming that even is how she thought, the reason it "cost her dearly" is a random twist. If Jason had been taken out by the twist instead, would there be as many posts saying he'd been a "crap" player of the game and that his failure to get all of the other HMs on side had cost him dearly? I don't think so.”

As I said in the post you're quoting from, random twists are part and parcel of BB now. Hardly any weeks are 'normal' nominations anymore.
As a housemate you'd have to account for these random twists. If you don't then your game has failed, especially if you got evicted due to not making an effort with a housemate who evicted you.

Originally Posted by Veri:
“I think that in a different context you might be pointing out that when BB does that sort of cutting away it can be to create a misleading impression of what's going on. BB does use such tricks, after all. Show a HM doing someting; cut to an expression on a HM's face, and it will seem the expression was a reaction to what we just saw the other HM doing, even if it wasn't.”

I have no idea what you're talking about because you're speaking of an imaginary non-specific situation. Editing is part of any TV show. You'd expect to see various reactions of different people. In this specific situation it was neither a good thing or a bad thing, in fact it was quite benign as I assume that hardly anyone else, if anyone at all, noticed it. It didn't necessarily make her look good or bad, it just demonstrated how she felt about Jason.

Originally Posted by Veri:
“But if she couldn't stand Jason, perhaps there's a good reason. The expressions on his face have been pretty questionable at times.”

Again, I don't know what you're talking about. It's not a case of whether she was right or wrong to feel how she did. If that's how she felt then it was right for her. I'm not going to argue over whether she had good reason or not for not standing Jason, because it's a subjective feeling of hers about him which has nothing to do with me. The point isn't about whether her feeling is justified or not. It's irrelevant.
She didn't like him, he didn't like her, and that's all there is to it. Because of this she's not there now.

Alrightmate

26-07-2016

Originally Posted by Veri:
“Sure, it's been said that if she made an effort to get on with few others she might of stayed in. But what supposedly shows it's true in a way that makes her "crap" at "playing the game". Her success in getting very few nominations suggests that she made enough of an effort with almost all of them. That doesn't look like crap "playing the game" to me.”

How many rounds of nominations did we get in the privacy of the diary room?

flower 2

26-07-2016

Until it returns to 'WHO GOES? YOU DECIDE' there will always be housemates blaming the housemates for voting them off.

Let them blame US....(or BB for BAD EDITING)

fredster

26-07-2016

Originally Posted by Bless You:
“Presuming you are referring to Lateshya, Ryan and Charlie, well it's simple, they're entitled;
delusional, immature idiots.”

They all thought they would win or at least stay until the end. As you rightly say delusional idiots.

fredster

26-07-2016

Originally Posted by Karen_Annanina:
“Clearly she showed a lack of game playing acumen in antagonising Jason unnecessarily. He took it very .badly to be accused, apparently, of some kind of unspecified dishonesty. So she made an enemy and karma struck.”

He said that she had ignored him so never built up a relationship silly girl. Then she told him he would be out next. Well, he is still there.

WillowPape

26-07-2016

Originally Posted by jacob.w.porter:
“Man I wish he stayed longer....and I wonder why he's supporting Andy and Evelyn out of everyone? So many relationships in the house we missed developing.

Andrew Tate ‏@Cobratate · 2h2 hours ago

I hope Andy or ev win. But I'm in Korea and will be drunk out my mind by the time the results announced and won't even remember who's who.”

i remember looking at his twitter shortly after the scandal of the tape and he was talking about wanting to take evelyn on vacation and shit. he's rooting for her bc probably thinks it will give him a better chance to **** her

i cant see andrew and andy really being friends but andrew probably admires andy's smugness and intelligence since they are pretty similar in that respect

kali

26-07-2016

Originally Posted by Veri:
“I don't follow any of them on Twitter, but a HM's followers tend to tell them how great they are, that they've been wronged by whatever got them out of the house, how awful the HMs they've clashed with are, and so on. Whenever I've looked at any of the ex-HM's timelines, that's been going on.

I think people often underestimate what a heady thing it can be to have 1000s of followers; and some have 10s of 1000s or more. Georgina, for example, currently has over 67,000. Ryan has over 47,000.

It's often thought there isn't much fame to be had from BB any more, but having 10s of 1000s of followers is a significant degree of fame in itself.”

On Twitter a lot of "followers" can be bought so maybe Latyesha (sp) doesn't really have over 300K followers

Remma

26-07-2016

Originally Posted by hisdogspot:
“Well, not all of them ... in fairness to Marco, at least he just walked off into the sunset

Some others, though, are screwed up with bitterness and resentment and simply will not go away

I sort of get that Lateysha might feel a bit hard done by, but so was Chelsea, and he isn't throwing a strop

What is it about this term's crop that makes them act so 'entitled' ?”

They were bitter, angry people before they even went into the house. Now they're even more bitter and angry because they've discovered that being in the house hasn't magically turned them into better, more attractive, more interesting individuals. They are still the losers they have always been. They are no richer, either materially or personality wise than before.

Besides, if you had to live out your life as Charlie, Leteysha or Ryan, wouldn't you be bitter and angry.

jfan

26-07-2016

It's the result of having ones head up ones arse

flower 2

26-07-2016

Originally Posted by jfan:
“It's the result of having ones head up ones arse”

And thinking that having the most 'Twitter' following makes them 'famous'.....

It doesn't.....

Just makes them desperate and the people in 'the media' something to laugh at and make money FROM!

Remma

26-07-2016

Originally Posted by Veri:
“Her downfall was a twist, not a failure to "play the game". (What is "play the game" supposed to mean here anyway?)

Indeed, she was doing pretty well in the game. She was at the centre of the largest group. She was getting very few nominations. (Jason nominated her twice, Andy once, and that's it.)

Indeed, Jason picked her to evict because her position was so strong.”

The game, AT THAT POINT, was to press the buzzer, take the money and evict the housemate of your choice. Since she ddid none of that, she did, in fact, fail to play the game.

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