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Yeah read that yesterday, you do have to pay the full amount straight away though and I'm guessing Gameseek have insider info the base console will be £200. Don't think I'll be taking up their offer and now that Zelda isn't a launch game I'm in no hurry to get one anyway.
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What about those of us who never got a Wii U? If the console didn't sell that well there will be a few around. So I'd jump at the chance.
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So it looks like the Switch will controllers are motion controllers as well
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The odd remaster is fine but when most of your launch titles are looking like being remasters and ports of games already out it isn't a good thing. From the rumoured launch line up the only switch exclusive game is going to be the new Mario game. It needs more than just that. Zelda not being ready in time is a huge blow to Nintendo for the launch. It doesn't look good when the line up is mostly filled with remasters from a console seen by most as a flop (I like the Wii u but let's be honest it struggled to set the world alight)
I'd also be after a third party exclusive too, Zombi U/Bayonetta 2 may not have set the world alight but they were genuinely risky games that showed off the new hardware. More of that kind of thing please Nintendo and less reliance on franchises that are creaking a bit now (I know Mario sells, but it is an old franchise and Nintendo really need to diversify.) |
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I said pages back Nintendo should move the launch back, June would be ideal, it's a quiet time in the games market, so launching a decently priced console (sub £200) and some great first and third party games could really see the thing fly off the shelves.
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I said pages back Nintendo should move the launch back, June would be ideal, it's a quiet time in the games market, so launching a decently priced console (sub £200) and some great first and third party games could really see the thing fly off the shelves.
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200 is too much for a outdated console.
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If I was Nintendo, I'd push the launch back, I've never seen the sense in a March Launch anyway and the fact their key launch titles aren't ready suggests to me the console mightn't be either. I know they probably don't want to go up against a new hardware launch from Microsoft but when they did it with the Wii it was sold out for months. Pre Xmas people are more in a buying mood than mid March imo and the March launch did nothing for the Wii U.
I'd also be after a third party exclusive too, Zombi U/Bayonetta 2 may not have set the world alight but they were genuinely risky games that showed off the new hardware. More of that kind of thing please Nintendo and less reliance on franchises that are creaking a bit now (I know Mario sells, but it is an old franchise and Nintendo really need to diversify.) |
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I know they probably don't want to go up against a new hardware launch from Microsoft but when they did it with the Wii it was sold out for months.
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The Wii was only sold out for months because of Nintendo's tactic of intentionally limiting supply. There doing exactly the same thing with the NES Mini & It's a tactic Nintendo have been using dating back to the original NES.
In no way did Nintendo purposely limited supply as in total they must of made roughly half million-million across all regions, 375,000 in eu. Then there is fact it would make no sense what so ever as business decision to limit stock. What would they gain from doing this ? Restocking was probably issue because of the Xmas time frame. Then If remember rightly loads where bought to sell on eBay at double the price. Even people trying to con people in to buying the boxes, only making clear in tiny writing. I've not seen any sales data for this NES mini however doubt it selling it massive numbers, so the stock obviously going to low.. supply and demand it's niche product, and if by miracle has sold I doubt Nintendo expected it. If I'm wrong I would love to understand how this would help a company. |
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When the Wii first came out I was going into Gamestation (for something else) and there was a man outside with cash in his hand offering anybody who was walking out with one double what they had just paid.
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I'd push the release back a little too. I think it'll sell well though not being a wii spin off like the Wii U seemed to be.
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I said pages back Nintendo should move the launch back, June would be ideal, it's a quiet time in the games market, so launching a decently priced console (sub £200) and some great first and third party games could really see the thing fly off the shelves.
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Can't see what difference it makes releasing it in March or June. Anybody who wants one at launch will be just as likely to get it in March as they would in June.
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Any proof of this ?
Jim Sterling recently did a Jimquasition where he discussed the subject: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRicuKHmjZA What Jim says in that regarding his local Target store mirrors what a friend of mine who was working in a big argos store in birmingham was saying about the Wii back in 2007. Over the 1st 3-4 months they were never given more than 5 Wii's at any one time, On Launch day he was saying they were only given 4 & were given a further 5 2 weeks later. It's also mentioned in these articles: http://uk.ign.com/articles/2016/11/1...fans-like-this http://digitalcracknetwork.com/nes-c...lem-shortages/ As to why they do it, By restricting supply you artificially increase demand. Quote:
I've not seen any sales data for this NES mini however doubt it selling it massive numbers, so the stock obviously going to low.. supply and demand it's niche product, and if by miracle has sold I doubt Nintendo expected it.
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How much would you sugest they sell it for? It is a brand new console after all. 200 quid for a brand new console is excellent value for money compared with the other systems. 200 quid is a great alternative to those not wanting to fork out a good 300 - 400 on a ps4/Xbox 1
80 should be top price as its just a gadget. |
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When the Wii first came out I was going into Gamestation (for something else) and there was a man outside with cash in his hand offering anybody who was walking out with one double what they had just paid.
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The odd remaster is fine but when most of your launch titles are looking like being remasters and ports of games already out it isn't a good thing. From the rumoured launch line up the only switch exclusive game is going to be the new Mario game. It needs more than just that. Zelda not being ready in time is a huge blow to Nintendo for the launch. It doesn't look good when the line up is mostly filled with remasters from a console seen by most as a flop (I like the Wii u but let's be honest it struggled to set the world alight)
My guess is we'll see Splatoon at launch, Mario Kart in April/May, Smash in July/August, Mario Maker in October/November. They'll be big filler titles in between their new games (to keep momentum going). New Mario isn't the only exclusive launch title rumoured. Some crazy "Mushroom Kingdom invaded by Rabbids" strategy RPG is strongly rumoured for day one (a Ubisoft/ Nintendo crossover) and a brand new IP from Nintendo is also rumoured. I won't be that shocked to see a mature 3rd party exclusive on day one either (much as we had Red Steel at the Wii's launch and ZOMBIU on the Wii U). Regarding the lack of Zelda at launch....it'll be interesting to see if we get exclusive content in Skyrim . Zelda mods/content built exclusively for the Switch game would be a good hook. You can also likely throw in much improved versions of Monster hunter XX and Mario Sports Superstars for the launch window on the same date as the 3DS games launch. Monster Hunter would certainly make sense for launch in Japan (and the 3DS game is being released the same day as the Switch is rumoured to ..so that makes it seems like a switch version is a shoe-in)...and assuming the Switch joy-cons both have motion, Mario Sports Superstars seems and obvious choice as the "Wii sports" for the system (considering it has motion friendly sports like Tennis, Golf and Baseball in the package). |
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It's something Nintendo have always done as I say dating back to the NES. It's been brought up in plenty of book's over the year's & it's something that you hear insiders bring up on occasion.
Jim Sterling recently did a Jimquasition where he discussed the subject: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRicuKHmjZA What Jim says in that regarding his local Target store mirrors what a friend of mine who was working in a big argos store in birmingham was saying about the Wii back in 2007. Over the 1st 3-4 months they were never given more than 5 Wii's at any one time, On Launch day he was saying they were only given 4 & were given a further 5 2 weeks later. It's also mentioned in these articles: http://uk.ign.com/articles/2016/11/1...fans-like-this http://digitalcracknetwork.com/nes-c...lem-shortages/ As to why they do it, By restricting supply you artificially increase demand. There was plenty of hype & excitement for it pre-launch with plenty of complaints about the lack of pre-orders & it was obvious from the day they announced it that it was going to sell well. Now regarding stock as stated, It was Xmas time and there pretty bad weather here in UK. In some places it was hard enough to restock shops let alone get WII's to places. I remember going what was the local Woolworth's with friend to get one after Xmas about January February, and in that day alone they had sold 20 units, I used go in there lot and they always had good stock for such small little town. Now regarding nes they where never going to make massive amount it's clearly aimed at very niche market, and it was in reality risk, with many competitive products in that market. |
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If it was a 1 time thing or something new then i'd be inclined to not believe those reports, But the fact that its something that has happened with virtually every Nintendo product going back to the NES with the same reports of stores getting single digit supply's then i'm more inclined to believe them. I also believe that in one of the books (I think it was Console wars by Blake Harris) they actually had people who was working at Nintendo during some of the time been covered that confirmed that it was indeed a Nintendo tactic that they were still using. Quote:
It’s a tactic to increase consumer demand: initially release a small quantity (tease) to dedicated customers so there’s inflated panic and excitement ahead of the following wave, which drives sales.
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Sounds more like some crazy ass conspiracy theory to me. I think the WII sales numbers show that if Nintendo expect big demand on product they will make enough to accommodate that, or do feel making million was not enough ?
Now regarding stock as stated, It was Xmas time and there pretty bad weather here in UK. In some places it was hard enough to restock shops let alone get WII's to places. I remember going what was the local Woolworth's with friend to get one after Xmas about January February, and in that day alone they had sold 20 units, I used go in there lot and they always had good stock for such small little town. Now regarding nes they where never going to make massive amount it's clearly aimed at very niche market, and it was in reality risk, with many competitive products in that market. |
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If it was a 1 time thing or something new then i'd be inclined to not believe those reports, But the fact that its something that has happened with virtually every Nintendo product going back to the NES with the same reports of stores getting single digit supply's then i'm more inclined to believe them.
I also believe that in one of the books (I think it was Console wars by Blake Harris) they actually had people who was working at Nintendo during some of the time been covered that confirmed that it was indeed a Nintendo tactic that they were still using. lets take look at some 'facts' that quickly debunk this silly theory in seconds. 3ds ''Nintendo sold just under 500,000 Nintendo 3DS units during the month of March 2011 in the US, with 440,000 Nintendo 3DS'' DS again sold half million in its first week. N64 During the system's first three days on the market, retailers sold 350,000 of 500,000 available console units During its first four months, the console yielded 500,000 unit sales in North America These facts do not lie what your implying is simply impossible with the volumes of sales. Now I'm no expert however I would assume that all products at launch will have certain limits on orders, or greedy companies could easily buy up large stock and force customers to go to certain stores. |
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I wouldnt call it a console. When the atari flashback came out no one called that a console. 200 isnt a good price when they are old games you can easily play on a PC for free.
80 should be top price as its just a gadget. |
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Part of me has often wondered why Sega hasent gotten back in the console scene. They were great for a time till they decided to just ditch hardware for no reason and Im guessing it annoyed the fan base them releasing new hardware every few years which most likely drove their customers to Sony.
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Wouldn't waste your time the poster has been making some very questionable post however implying the switch Is worth £80 in this economy has confirmed my suspicious that he is just trolling.
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