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Old 26-12-2016, 08:06
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My main problem with the Psp was that you could be the most carefull person and after just 1 little Nick on the disc it's nackared. From the rumoured specs and clock speeds it sounds like it's going to be a jack of all trades but a master at none of them. But then again it's all speculation. None of its been outed as 100 percent fact. The latest rumour is that it's going to be 1440p while docked https://www.extremetech.com/gaming/2...#disqus_thread

Let's be honest at an estimated 200 quid was it ever designed to keep up and compete with X box 1 or ps 4? My instinct says no
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Old 26-12-2016, 11:04
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The Vita delivered on console quality games, the problem was you could list them all on two hands: Uncharted, Gravity Rush, Wipeout, Killzone, Tearaway, Little Big Planet and Resistance.

Everything else on Vita was either a very poorly executed game (Batman/Call Of Duty/Assassins Creed), indie titles, or games aimed at extremely niche/eastern markets that wouldn't do well over here regardless of graphical fidelity.

As long as Nintendo actually put all their weight behind the Switch (which - let's face it, they kinda have to), then the Vita and the Switch aren't really that comparable.
I have a theory that part of the reasoning behind Switch's concept is that by combining console and handheld Nintendo won't have to split their resources between 3DS and Wii U in the future. Instead they can pour all their resources into a single platform making them much more efficient, not to mention profitable.
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Old 27-12-2016, 08:23
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The issue with anything is timing. There's no point in marketing a handheld gaming console when everyone who would care already has one in their pocket except there's also makes calls, texts and can access the internet.
THe biggest games are often those that are on phones. Why spend mega bucks on a game that might be a success when you can make a game about matching up candy or having a virtual army?
And back to the NES. There is no point in me having one now since I wanted it for christmas and now Christmas is over. Retro gaming has it's place, as does the Wii but they are pick me up gaming systems for casual gamers.
There is no point in companies trying to make a new system or an old system for new gamers. There is already two that can do whatever you want. IF you like older games theres a raft of indie games for the to consoles so why bother buying a new one?
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Old 27-12-2016, 13:17
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The issue with anything is timing. There's no point in marketing a handheld gaming console when everyone who would care already has one in their pocket except there's also makes calls, texts and can access the internet. \
Two words; proper controller.

Touch and motion controls have proven to be less than satisfactory, unless you're making a very simple game. For anything require a bit more complexity, you really need a proper game controller.

And this is what the Switch offers - as well as seamless connectivity to your TV and the ability to play local multi-player out of the box.

Besides - people were certain the 3DS would be killed off by the mobile market and the Vita. By all accounts, it's sold pretty well and has been the backbone of Nintendo's business since its launch.

THe biggest games are often those that are on phones. Why spend mega bucks on a game that might be a success when you can make a game about matching up candy or having a virtual army?
The mobile market is huge - there is a shed load of cash being paid into it. The problem is, that not everybody gets that cash. Most of the money goes to a handful of titles. So you could spend invest in the mobile market, but good luck actually making money from it.

The mobile market also tends to be led by novelties - it can be a very hit and miss affair.
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Old 28-12-2016, 01:08
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Besides - people were certain the 3DS would be killed off by the mobile market and the Vita. By all accounts, it's sold pretty well and has been the backbone of Nintendo's business since its launch.
I think there is a debate about the 3DS, as you say it has sold well and made Nintendo decent money, but on the other hand it's sold poorly when compared to its Nintendo predecessors (I believe its sold about 1/3 of what the DS did).
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Old 01-01-2017, 09:22
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I think there is a debate about the 3DS, as you say it has sold well and made Nintendo decent money, but on the other hand it's sold poorly when compared to its Nintendo predecessors (I believe its sold about 1/3 of what the DS did).
It's a good point to make. The 3DS launched into a market where the circumstances were completely different to previous generations. Nintendo were caught out by this and I don't think they had appreciated just how different the market was - after the success of the DS, why think that the market wouldn't respond differently? Why not just do more of the same? Why worry?

I suppose you could look at it this way; given how badly Nintendo messed up the platform (design and launch) it's pretty impressive that they recovered in the way that they did with the 3DS.

I don't think Nintendo are making the same mistake this time around though - we're coming up to almost 10 years since the iPhone launched, and kicked off the smart-phone market and made games on mobiles a real business. In that time, many of the limitations of mobile gaming have been quite painfully realised, and those who want a more traditional experience on the move, might see the Switch as a more tempting option. Add to that the ability to connect it to a TV, detach the controllers and have instant multi-player coupled with Nintendo IP - its a system that has a lot going for it.

Both the mobile game and home console markets have a big gap in terms of the content and overall experience that it is being offered - and there there's a demand to gave that gap filled. Which is where I think the Switch can be a success.
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Old 03-01-2017, 06:28
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EA have announced they have no plans to release Mass Effect Andromeda on Switch. Hopefully not a sign of things to come.
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Old 03-01-2017, 11:31
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The argument i'm seeing from Nintendo fans regarding Mass Effect is that EA not bringing it to switch isn't an issue as it wouldn't sell on it anyway.

That however is missing the point in that the big selling point of the switch is that you can take it with you & play console games on the go. I know people that do a lot of traveling that would happily buy a switch to be able to play games like Mass Effect while on there travels & who had already said specifically regarding Mass Effect that if that game was to come to switch they would get that version over the PS4/XB1/PC version purely due to the ability to be able to take it with them.
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Old 03-01-2017, 12:52
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The argument i'm seeing from Nintendo fans regarding Mass Effect is that EA not bringing it to switch isn't an issue as it wouldn't sell on it anyway.

That however is missing the point in that the big selling point of the switch is that you can take it with you & play console games on the go.
The argument is quite a valid one - especially of the Switch port is going to follow any amount of time after the other versions. Quite sadly, its something that publishers just don't seem to get - if the game has been out for quite some time on other platforms, then there little chance that the intended audience will bother buying it again - no matter what other features the newer platform brings.

EA are being, quite surprisingly, quite smart about their approach here. But then, they're only learning from experience. Other publishers tend to ignore the advice of "it won't sell, do something else" in these cases, do it any way and then blame the platform holder for it selling badly.
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Old Yesterday, 11:04
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Eurogamer, quoting a number of sources, claim Breath Of The Wild is back on for a March release along side Switch, but it may only be in Japan and North America. It seems Nintendo had a change of heart late last year and decided Switch needed the strongest possible launch line up but it's not clear at the moment if they will be able to get the European version ready for March as well.
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