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Old 21-10-2016, 15:02
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Not people. Me. Dont be afraid to quote what I said instead of hiding behind 'people'

I didn't say everyone would flock to the X1 either, I said it needs to be pitched at a decent price because you can get a X1 with a recently released game for £250.

All this talk about it being a home console and a handheld. No its not, it is a handheld that plugs into a docking station that then outputs on a tv. That, with even my pea brain, doens't make it two consoles in one.
Fine I take that on board, you're still dead wrong though regardless.

Nintendo have not directly competed with Microsoft or Sony since the Wii. Microsoft and Sony consoles are the ones that go for specs and graphics and whatnot but Nintendo just do their own thing and even with 0 3rd party support (Wii U) still sell over 10 million units of hardware off of their own titles, so it's ridiculous to say that people are going to get an Xbox just because it *could potentially* (not at all guaranteed) be cheaper, they're not competitors.

As for the docking station/handheld thing, the fact of the matter is though that the Switch graphics are better than the PS3/Xbox 360 games, which *were* on home consoles, so while the Switch might not LITERALLY be both a home console and a portable, and it's true that it is a handheld device predominantly, people will still refer to it as an all-in-one device because it has the power of one. It's not every day you get to just whip something out of your pocket and launch right back into a game of Skyrim after all, and as I said previously, that concept alone will sell millions of these even if the price is over £300.
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Old 21-10-2016, 15:04
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To me it looks like you'll be able to slide it out of the side (or at least, will be able to after lifting it up a tiny bit) so you might be able to orient it upright but facing sideways?

(Unless that's what you mean rather than storing it horizontally)
I was thinking horizontally, Like a traditional console.

I'm not really that interested in the handheld side of it or the built-in controllers. I just want to put the thing on its side in my TV unit (Probably on-top of one of my existing consoles) & treat it like a console & not have to pull the handheld part out every-time I want to put a new game into it (Game card slot looks like its on the top of the handheld part).


If it has to be kept upright like in the video then I just don't have the space to have it like that out in the open & having to try & fit it upright into my TV unit & slide the handheld part out whenever I want to put a new game in isn't ideal.
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Old 21-10-2016, 15:08
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I'd like a version without the screen for, say, £100. Just a console to plug into the telly and a pro controller.
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Old 21-10-2016, 15:10
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One thing I couldn't quite get was the multiple controllers. We have a shot of the guy on the couch playing using both controllers docked into their own charger/base unit (that did make it look very big), then on the plan he splits them apart and uses one in each hand (liked that, but will take a bit of getting used to), then we have multiplayer, were 2 people are using one half of the controller each. So does that imply that multiplayer will have limited controls? 1 stick and 4 buttons.
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Old 21-10-2016, 15:23
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One thing I couldn't quite get was the multiple controllers. We have a shot of the guy on the couch playing using both controllers docked into their own charger/base unit (that did make it look very big), then on the plan he splits them apart and uses one in each hand (liked that, but will take a bit of getting used to), then we have multiplayer, were 2 people are using one half of the controller each. So does that imply that multiplayer will have limited controls? 1 stick and 4 buttons.
Yes I was wondering similar things.

It shows them playing Mario Kart with one part of the Switch each, and while that's great for me because it effectively means local multiplayer right out of the box, I was a bit.... confused.... as to how they could play a full game of Mario Kart with what looked like one analogue stick and 4 buttons each, that looks like it could take some getting used to.
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Old 21-10-2016, 15:34
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This does look amazing. Nintendo have clearly learned lessons from the Wii U and have gone back to the drawing board, and came up with something slick, different and modern.

They aren't the kings of gaming for nothing.

What really excites me is the prospect of a proper full scale Pokemon game on a home console. The reason they never released one before is because Gamefreak the developer refused, as they want the player to be able to play Pokemon and trade with their friends, anywhere they want, and could only do it on Nintendo's handhelds.. Well that problem will be sorted now, and with the graphics of a home console this time round. This thing is gonna be massive.
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Old 21-10-2016, 15:47
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It was also nice to see from the trailer, they've actually learnt from the previous mistakes and our targeting the right audience, no cutesy families gathered around, no children playing it, actual grown adults/teens.
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Old 21-10-2016, 16:04
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as to how they could play a full game of Mario Kart with what looked like one analogue stick and 4 buttons each, that looks like it could take some getting used to.
A/B for accelerate/brake, X for jump/powerslide, Y for items. There is a shoulder button, too.
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Old 21-10-2016, 16:43
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Yes I was wondering similar things.

It shows them playing Mario Kart with one part of the Switch each, and while that's great for me because it effectively means local multiplayer right out of the box, I was a bit.... confused.... as to how they could play a full game of Mario Kart with what looked like one analogue stick and 4 buttons each, that looks like it could take some getting used to.
as opposed to the mario kart on the wii which used 3 buttons?
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Old 21-10-2016, 16:44
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A/B for accelerate/brake, X for jump/powerslide, Y for items. There is a shoulder button, too.
Yeah thinking about it again I should have realized the Wii remote had only 4 button combinations really so I guess it does make sense. I still feel like the controllers look a bit on the small end though, but I guess we'll see how it feels in person come March.
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Old 21-10-2016, 17:16
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Journalist Laura Kate Dale (who for what it's worth, has openly LIED on multiple occasions and is just straight up a bit of a terrible human being so take this with a truck load of salt) is reporting that the Switch battery life when taken portable is a MAXIMUM of 3 hours, similar to the Wii U Gamepad.

IF true (again, huge if), that could be quite a problem for the Switch. I forever feel like I have to charge the Wii U Gamepad when I'm playing with the Wii U, the battery really doesn't last long at all.
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Old 21-10-2016, 17:31
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Journalist Laura Kate Dale (who for what it's worth, has openly LIED on multiple occasions and is just straight up a bit of a terrible human being so take this with a truck load of salt) is reporting that the Switch battery life when taken portable is a MAXIMUM of 3 hours, similar to the Wii U Gamepad.

IF true (again, huge if), that could be quite a problem for the Switch. I forever feel like I have to charge the Wii U Gamepad when I'm playing with the Wii U, the battery really doesn't last long at all.
I thought it was opposite she pretty much nailed every detail of the switch or I'm thinking of someone else.


This is going to be switches biggest hurdle battery tech sadly is not advancing with modern technology.

I know it's big problem for some, but me personally I don't see the problem you can charge your device on planes,buses, etc, then theirs power banks.



Nintendo have confirmed they won't be talking about the switch till next year, bad move in my opinion.
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Old 21-10-2016, 17:59
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As Colin Moriarty was saying yesterday, I hope this doesn't go like the Vita launch did where initial impressions were positive (When only the hardware/games were revealed) but as it got close to launch they came out with all the negative aspects that turned a lot of people off.

The initial reveal of the switch has been positive, However if next year in the weeks leading upto the launch they come out with details like cost, battery life, internal memory storage etc.... & some/all of those details turn out to be negatives then it will hurt the launch far more than getting off of that stuff out the way early.


As i've said already I don't plan to use the handheld stuff, If I buy it I will be buying & using it primarily as a home console so I don't see it been taken out of the docking station all that much so battery life isn't a big issue for me. However the price of it & its games, What its doing in terms of internal storage, What they will be doing in terms of network/profiles & as i've mentioned how you will be able to store it are details I want to know before I even start to think about saving up for one & the later they leave those details the less time I have & the less likely I am to get one anytime close to launch.
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Old 21-10-2016, 18:27
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I thought it was opposite she pretty much nailed every detail of the switch or I'm thinking of someone else.


This is going to be switches biggest hurdle battery tech sadly is not advancing with modern technology.

I know it's big problem for some, but me personally I don't see the problem you can charge your device on planes,buses, etc, then theirs power banks.



Nintendo have confirmed they won't be talking about the switch till next year, bad move in my opinion.
Yeah, I think for us in the UK it won't really affect us too much because it's not often we're making journeys longer than 3 hours I would have thought, but I can understand how it'd affect people in America and countries like that where 3 hour journeys are almost just a given.

BIB: Oh my god are you serious?!?!?! Wow. Just when I thought Nintendo were actually secretly geniuses and had sussed out exactly what their consumers were after, they reveal themselves to be just as incompetent as ever.

Why would you talk about the nitty gritty of your console just a few weeks prior to its launch? That's some serious cause for concern right off the bat.
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Old 21-10-2016, 18:44
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Yeah, I think for us in the UK it won't really affect us too much because it's not often we're making journeys longer than 3 hours I would have thought, but I can understand how it'd affect people in America and countries like that where 3 hour journeys are almost just a given.

BIB: Oh my god are you serious?!?!?! Wow. Just when I thought Nintendo were actually secretly geniuses and had sussed out exactly what their consumers were after, they reveal themselves to be just as incompetent as ever.

Why would you talk about the nitty gritty of your console just a few weeks prior to its launch? That's some serious cause for concern right off the bat.
Agree the fact they are going to wait 12 weeks or so or even less before the launch of a major console is an eyebrow raiser.
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Old 22-10-2016, 07:30
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I kind of agree but having said that a two or three month gap between full reveal and launch might actually work in their favour. It's still plenty of time to get all the info people want out there, the excitement will still be fresh and if you decide to put in a pre-order you wont have to wait long until it's launched.
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Old 22-10-2016, 08:31
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... reporting that the Switch battery life when taken portable is a MAXIMUM of 3 hours, similar to the Wii U Gamepad.
That's pretty much the battery life of a 3DS - and a typical mobile phone/tablet tends to be even less if constantly playing a game (and god help you if it was made using Unity).

For longer journey's via car, train or plane - you're typically near a USB or other type of power source anyhow. Not that big a deal.
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Old 22-10-2016, 10:52
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For existing 3DS fans this is probably incredibly exciting. But for me, I'm far from convinced. I have no place for a handheld in my life, and as a home console it seems technically limited. That Mario game is going to have to be very damn special and available day one for me to buy at launch.

That said, at least one of my kids will probably want it so I'll be parting with cash anyway.
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Old 22-10-2016, 13:51
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For existing 3DS fans this is probably incredibly exciting. But for me, I'm far from convinced. I have no place for a handheld in my life, and as a home console it seems technically limited. That Mario game is going to have to be very damn special and available day one for me to buy at launch.

That said, at least one of my kids will probably want it so I'll be parting with cash anyway.
I'm not much of a handheld gamer, but I like the idea I could go to bed and play Zelda or any other game then tomorrow continue where I left off on the big TV.

Or if someone wants to watch something on tv I can still play the game.
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Old 22-10-2016, 14:12
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I do like the idea of this, but I'm a bit worried about what will happen with the 3ds, and definitely need some info on backwards compatibility. Traditionally Nintendo consoles have been BC with the previous generation, but if this is cartridge based how is that going to work with Wii u games?

Or are they viewing this as a successor to the 3ds rather than the U?

I think the reveal has been good so far, but I'd rather have some more info on it sooner rather than later.
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Old 22-10-2016, 14:28
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It looks like they tried to combine a handheld and home console into one full thing to me. I like the 3DS but never got a Wii U so
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Old 22-10-2016, 15:00
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I do like the idea of this, but I'm a bit worried about what will happen with the 3ds, and definitely need some info on backwards compatibility. Traditionally Nintendo consoles have been BC with the previous generation, but if this is cartridge based how is that going to work with Wii u games?

Or are they viewing this as a successor to the 3ds rather than the U?

I think the reveal has been good so far, but I'd rather have some more info on it sooner rather than later.
I doubt it, it's not really as portable as a 3DS and from what I understand is more powerful than the Wii u, so I see it as more of a successor to the wii u.

I agree I would like to see it backwards compatible to play some wii u games I missed, but I don't think it will be.
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Old 22-10-2016, 16:14
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I doubt it, it's not really as portable as a 3DS and from what I understand is more powerful than the Wii u, so I see it as more of a successor to the wii u.

I agree I would like to see it backwards compatible to play some wii u games I missed, but I don't think it will be.
how so?
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Old 22-10-2016, 16:18
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You can't really fit it in your pocket like a 3ds. I mean the Switch is obviously portable, but I don't think it's going to replace Nintendo's handhelds like the 3ds.
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Old 22-10-2016, 17:15
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Tongue in cheek rant about the trailer...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1R0fM9RkBQ

he does have a point(s)
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