I do like Mick as a character and hope he stays on the show in the future with more to come but I do think sometimes the problem with his character is that his family oriented attitude can be too forceful and actually stifle other characters in the family, especially the kids. I understand this being built up as a character trait but I think sometimes the writers need to rein it in and allow the kids and others like Tina to shine on their own a bit more as well as the family scenes. The scene you mentioned with Lee at the doctors is a perfect example.

These are definitely the main issues lea, couldn't agree more. I've bored people to death with my endless posts about the creative issues Corrie has encountered over the years so I won't repeat them here but they are far more damaging to the show than the actual actors.

Didn't Don attack Mike in the factory too? I did see that he drove Alma into the canal that time, that's Richard Hillman territory

It would be great if Sharon had some family though, what happened to her brother after?


That was it for me really, was that they never delved deep enough into how Lee felt. I get what you mean about Mick, telling him to 'snap out of it' and having a go at him, which I will admit is a realistic reaction some people have. That was also evident when Lee admitted he didn't want a child, instead of Mick saying he understood, he essentially bullied Lee, telling him to man up which is ridiculous. Maybe it's because Mick see's Lee as the tougher brother as opposed to Johnny, who is more sensitive and that's why he gives Lee a hard time.

I really like Mick as well (although I actually prefer him away from Linda which is why I was pro Mick/Whitney! ), but I 100% agree with what you've said.

At Sam, although it's not her (probably unlinkable) most famous performance


I had forgotten about a lot of the Don Brennan stuff as I hadn't seen it since the 90s and was only relativity young when it was on but you're jogging my memory now I remember him giving a very realistic portrayal of a man who was seriously mentally disturbed and him trying to kill Alma and Mike and ultimately crashing his car in the street was great.

Agreed, although that isn't actually what I meant.

A majority of the scene in the doctors was the doctor asking Lee how he felt, but Mick answering for him, and then the doctor saying "Mr Carter" "Lee needs to answer himself" "Mr Carter" "I'm going to have to ask you to step outside if you persist" blah-di-blah. IMO that scene should have been an emotional scene with Lee opening up to the doctor and his Dad, instead of having Mick making it all about him. Having Mick constantly answer for Lee not only meant that they didn't delve deep enough into Lee's emotions and thoughts, but it also made Mick look arrogant and controlling, whilst also adding nothing to the story as all it did was make it harder to empathise with Lee.

I do agree about the stuff you've said regarding Lee being the the tougher brother.

Just watched it on Youtube looks good, he also looks very scary

Wednesday was a significant anniversary in soap. It was 5 years since the 6000th episode of Emmerdale, and the last for Roz apart from 1 guest episode about 6 months later. I am very encouraged that Kirsty-Leigh Porter now has a more substantial role as Leela in Hollyoaks. Inbetween soap roles she starred in an episode of BBC1 drama Accused.

He really went from run-of-the-mill everyman to total psychopath within a decade, but every ounce of it was fully-developed and true to the character. Not like today where a character just suddenly turns psychotic over the course of an episode or two.

From Brian's death in 1989, Ivy was absolutely vile to Don and really sidelined him while she became obsessed with herself and trying to overcome her own grief in whatever twisted way she could. It was no wonder that he started to grow interested in other women and became increasingly obsessed with some of them. His obsession with Denise was pretty much the precursor to his obsession with Alma and him driving her into the canal.

Sorry, I did get what you mean but seemed to go off topic a bit. Yeah I agree about that scene, it was a tough one to watch and it made me feel a bit angry because Mick was taking control when really all Lee wanted to do was open up about how he was feeling. Agreed it added nothing to the story at all, there wasn't really much point to that scene at all.

Just a reminder to everyone, tomorrow is Kylie Platt's birthday. She would have been 29.

Oh yeah, and it is Eddie Yeat's birthday. He will be 75.

Mrs Fanshaw update ...

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showt...2170611&page=5

Isn't the actor who played Eddie dead?

You can now vote in the poll for Who Knocked Up KK?

I think I am more aware of Paula's birthday ie April 17th. I think David is in tomorrow, so we shall no doubt see him in mourning. This will be the first time I shall have seen him since Kylie's farewell episodes, as I skipped all episodes of Corrie until I came back last Friday.

Yes. But for all we know Eddie could still be alive out there.

Hopefully he will drop by and see Hilda tomorrow.

Brilliant KK The question is though, what will Episode 2 be called?

Never mind David, it is Cool_mate I am concerned about.

BIB - Agreed, and - without meaning to sound like a broken record - there could and should has been a point to that scene as IMO it should have been one of not only the storyline's biggest scenes, but also one of Lee's biggest scenes. Had EE have done that scene right I think Lee (and Danny Boy) could have come into his own!

I am a bit concerned too. Mind you, he says he has found his own Kylie, and judging by other threads I fear he means Gemma.

Will do

I think he means KK

there was an incident at the awards do

Yes, but it never gets any easier. I am still mourning for John Stape five years on, there has never been another teacher like him.

No you're exactly right, that scene was key to the whole storyline and was necessary in order for the plot to move forward. Danny would definitely have made it his own had he been given the chance.

Very true