Originally Posted by TheGraduate2012:
“The 30th anniversary was very well done although, ultimately, I found Who Killed Lucy? to be a let-down, mostly because of the length of time the storyline was dragged out for and because of DTC's over-enthusiastic proclamations of how game-changing it would be for the whole Square. Honestly, I'd rather have a full year of SOC's recent work than a year of the Beales all shooting each other furtive, open-mouthed glances.
The best thing I've noticed about SOC (so far, anyway) is that he doesn't appear to have favourites like DTC did. It makes me laugh that everyone is pining for DTC now, considering how they did nothing but bitch and moan about the overused Carters for two years.
Phil's 'falling off the wagon' being an revenge act on Gavin's part seemed so comically blase that I can almost guarantee that DTC did not intend to grow it into a cirrhosis storyline. Also, if you notice, the characters never mention this now. During all these tough conversations between Phil and Sharon, you'd expect Phil to, at least once, mention that it was her father who put him in his current state. Seems to me that SOC would sooner forget that particular plot point.
Oh dear, I imagine DTC had a, not at all predictable, Gavin return planned for Christmas Day, topped off with a showdown between him and Darth Ronnie on NYE
I meant subtle BUT noticeable, by the way
Totally. And, as we've said before, the Vic break-in was so much more unexpected and shocking because of SOC's work building up the Carters relationships again. I also had a thought tonight about Whitney and Mick, they had a nice little scene again. All DTC ever had them doing was Whitney throwing herself at Mick.
You're right actually. Remember I said that to you a few weeks ago? The pool death seems so un-SOC it's ridiculous. I even initially thought it was something DTC had pre-planned and they had to go ahead with”
“The 30th anniversary was very well done although, ultimately, I found Who Killed Lucy? to be a let-down, mostly because of the length of time the storyline was dragged out for and because of DTC's over-enthusiastic proclamations of how game-changing it would be for the whole Square. Honestly, I'd rather have a full year of SOC's recent work than a year of the Beales all shooting each other furtive, open-mouthed glances.
The best thing I've noticed about SOC (so far, anyway) is that he doesn't appear to have favourites like DTC did. It makes me laugh that everyone is pining for DTC now, considering how they did nothing but bitch and moan about the overused Carters for two years.
Phil's 'falling off the wagon' being an revenge act on Gavin's part seemed so comically blase that I can almost guarantee that DTC did not intend to grow it into a cirrhosis storyline. Also, if you notice, the characters never mention this now. During all these tough conversations between Phil and Sharon, you'd expect Phil to, at least once, mention that it was her father who put him in his current state. Seems to me that SOC would sooner forget that particular plot point.
Oh dear, I imagine DTC had a, not at all predictable, Gavin return planned for Christmas Day, topped off with a showdown between him and Darth Ronnie on NYE
I meant subtle BUT noticeable, by the way
Totally. And, as we've said before, the Vic break-in was so much more unexpected and shocking because of SOC's work building up the Carters relationships again. I also had a thought tonight about Whitney and Mick, they had a nice little scene again. All DTC ever had them doing was Whitney throwing herself at Mick.
You're right actually. Remember I said that to you a few weeks ago? The pool death seems so un-SOC it's ridiculous. I even initially thought it was something DTC had pre-planned and they had to go ahead with
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Live week was great and it was good because DTC was a huge fan of the show himself, something which became a nuisance in the coming months. Whilst Bobby being revealed as the killer was shocking, you couldn't help but think how ridiculous it was and it got even worse when half the square covered it up 'for the greater good'.
Yes, that has definitely been evident, EastEnders is once more an ensemble show and more or less everyone has been given their own story that is either stand alone or links into someone else's. I find it funny how people are practically begging DTC to come back, when actually he can stay away, this time last year I was on the verge of giving up EastEnders completely because I felt there was no way back for it once Kathy had come back and the ludicrous storylines between the Hubbards. Comedy Gavin and the Mitchells. I am cringing now at the ridiculous Halloween episode where Gavin lurked and held everyone hostage in the kitchen, that was unintentionally funny beyond belief.
That's true, Phil and Sharon haven't mentioned Gavin since he was arrested. It's good that horrific story has been put to bed, it needs to be forgotten and fast. Same with Claudette and the 'Dust from the vacuum cleaner' episodes.
I shudder at what EE would be like now if DTC was still here, probably like you say a Gavin return being the Christmas highlight. It's weird to think that this year the show has had two very different executive producers at the helm, and I really hope SOC makes 2017 great, it needs to be and I really feel he knows more than what he lets on. There have been signs of brilliance from him, and the little things like attention to detail are practically faultless (bar the same phone numbers thing but that's unimportant).
I agree, to be instantly thrown from a happy episode into a dark and terrifying situation was shocking and unpredictable. At one point I would have been on the side of the robbers, but because of the period where we have began to care for the characters again we were fearful for the Carters.
Yeah I do remember you saying about it, it seems so un-SOC to do a sensational pool drowning death, I don't know how they are going to exit and it is going to be great having to guess until it happens.
Even Roxy's typical deadbeat mother routine is more believable as she genuinely thinks she's doing what's best for Amy by having Ronnie adopt her.
there was loads in the 2000's, so can't think why the last one was the Stacey/Max one in March 2010. 
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